[sandeepmohan]

Were TVS really aiming at taking on its competitors or is this launch more of a product only for the TVS folks to upgrade to?

Bajaj had a 200cc motorcycle back in 2007. Why has it taken nearly a decade for TVS to introduce a 200cc RTR? If all they did was bore out the existing RTR engine, this bike should have been on sale a long time ago. Too slow TVS.

[IshaanIan]

Originally Posted by sandeepmohan

Were TVS really aiming at taking on its competitors or is this launch more of a product only for the TVS folks to upgrade to?

Bajaj had a 200cc motorcycle back in 2007. Why has it taken nearly a decade for TVS to introduce a 200cc RTR? If all they did was bore out the existing RTR engine, this bike should have been on sale a long time ago. Too slow TVS.

Better late than never eh? TVS might be slow but they do churn out respectable offerings in the 2 wheeler segment. With their new BMW Motorrad tie-up, we should see more interesting offerings in the market soon

[batterylow]

The motoroids review of the RTR 200 is out. Love the placement of the tri-colour above the headlight.

Excerpts

The new Apache’s styling is that feel-good halfway house between Bajaj’s flash and Honda’s subtlety. We think it just works.

At 148.5 kilos, the new Aapche RTR 200 is a little lighter then the Pulsar 200 NS, which tips the scales at 151 kilos. The Apache 200 RTR 4V will be made available in both carbureted and fuel injected versions. The latter employs a closed loop fuel injection system governed by a 16-bit micro processor, along with throttle position and manifold pressure sensors.

As for top speed, we managed to hit a speedometer indicated 123 km/h on the relatively short straight of the test track. Though the claimed top speed is 129 km/h, TVS insists that it’ll do more, and eventually top out at 144 km/h; given a long enough stretch of tarmac.

Its linear, effortless performance is delivered without a trace of unwanted vibrations as well, neither through the aluminum clip-on handlebars, nor through the footpegs, which is quite a commendable feat.

Brakes are great, and even though the ABS equipped versions are still a while away, the anchors; petal discs measuring 270 mm at the front and 240 mm at the rear; drop in with good bite and pedal feel. Clutch action is well weighed, and the slick shifting 5-speed transmission deserves a special mention. Shifts are smooth and precise, sans the clunk. Even at idle, engaging neutral just required the minutest flick from the left foot.

The aggressive pricing is just the icing on the cake, and we could be very well be looking at the new performance king below INR 1 lakh.

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[ATUL SINGH]

Although I last rode a bike almost 15yrs back but as already discussed repeatedly on this thread 200cc for 20.2bhp seems toothless when we compare it to the RX100 and RTZ's or yesteryears which 20-25 years ago gave 11bhp from their puny 100cc motors. 24-26bhp would have been more in line. However, I would have preferred 28+ bhp

[neil.jericho]

A lot of the design elements are very nicely executed indeed. The matte finish paint scheme looks smashing and the option of Pirelli Angel GT tires is welcome (despite my misgivings about Pirelli and their strategy in India). It will be interesting to see how buyers take to the latest Apache.

On a lighter note, the supposedly 'Indian' tri colour actually ends up looking like the national flag of the Ivory Coast!

[sairamboko]

TVS Motors has relaunced Victor in a new avatar. The new Victor sports the same 110 cc but a more powerful one with more features.


Picture Source : TVS victor website.

Specifications:

Engine 109.7 cc
Maximum power 7.06 kW (9.6 PS) @ 7500 rpm
Maximum torque 9.4 Nm @6000 rpm
Bore X Stroke 53.5 mm x 48.8 mm
Compression Ratio 9.9 : 1
Fuel system Carburettor, CV type
Transmission 4 speed constant mesh
Clutch Wet - multi plate type
Chassis Type Single cradle tubular frame.
Front Suspension Telescopic oil damped front suspension
Rear Suspension 5 step adjustable hydraulic series spring suspension
Brake Front : Drum Hand operated, Internally expanding, Ø130 mm
Brake Front : Disc Hand operated, Ø 240mm disc
Brake Rear Foot operated, internally expanding, Ø 110 mm
Tyre Size Front 2.75 x 17
Tyre Size Rear 3.00 x 17
Wheel Base 1260 mm
Height 1090 mm
Ground Clearance 175 mm
Length 1980 mm
Width 750 mm
Kerb weight: Drum 112 kg (ES alloy drum)
Kerb weight: Disc 113 kg (ES alloy disc)
Fuel tank including reserve 8 liters
Reserve 2 liters

The 2016 TVS Victor has been priced at Rs 49,490 for the drum variant and Rs 51,490 for the disc brake version (both prices ex-showroom Delhi).

Here are some reviews of it:

http://www.motoroids.com/reviews/201...nning-package/

Source: Motoroids

Video Review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqUzjsYxFyk

Source : Powerdrift
Please do watch the video review till end


P.S: Booked a blue one in Bangalore here for me. OTR is Rs.65,610. Will post my ownership experience once I lay hands on it.

[tharian]

Took a short spin on the carb RTR 200 4v .
The Apache series are my favourite from the 200cc and lower segments.

I had ridden the the previous generation 180 RTR a bit and although it was small for me, I enjoyed riding it mainly for its sporty nature and flickability.
Comparing with the 180, this one revs just the same, has a nice exhaust note like the previous one too and is marginally quicker through the gears. The Apache character remains and that is what makes the bike a fun one to ride especially in city when you need that power to overtake. Gearshifts are quick and power delivery is smooth. The engine ticks over perfectly and has a nice growl to it when downshifting. .

I loved the looks of the new one especially the matt finished bikes and the best part of it all was the all digital instrument console.
Weirdly, although the bikes looks bigger than the older ones, once on it, it felt small , but not as small as the 180, probably because of the seat and handlebar positions.
Overall a good second bike to have as an alternate to use in the city and for some short rides.

The bookings have not yet begun in Bangalore although the showroom I went to had the first lot of bikes ready. The EFi will be sold later and for now there is only the carb version available.

[sairamboko]

I got the TVS victor last friday. Initial impressions - its too good and totally Value For Money!! Here are some pics:

Front profile looks similar to Star City


The seat is wide and very comfortable.


The rear suspension is too good. Its able to glide through potholes easily in Bangalore roads


Digital & Analog console looks good and no problem in reading it during sunlight.


The highlight of this Victor is its powerful headlamps. They are very bright like a car and it serves the purpose well.

[abhinav.s]

Originally Posted by tharian

The Apache character remains and that is what makes the bike a fun one to ride especially in city when you need that power to overtake. Gearshifts are quick and power delivery is smooth. The engine ticks over perfectly and has a nice growl to it when downshifting. .

What about the characteristic and ever present vibes on the handle bar and foot pegs?? I have had a 160 and a 180 for quite some time. Barring the vibes, it was a fun ownership and the 180 saw the highway for 10,000kms of the 23,000 kms it was with me. Never let me down on the night rides as well as the day rides and it was a treat to ride it on the twisties.

[tharian]

Originally Posted by abhinav.s

What about the characteristic and ever present vibes on the handle bar and foot pegs??

For the speeds I did, there were none. Probably would be present at highers revs, but I didn't push it. In fact, I felt it was quite smooth and I'm sure the efi would be better.

[abhinav.s]

Originally Posted by tharian

For the speeds I did, there were none. Probably would be present at highers revs, but I didn't push it. In fact, I felt it was quite smooth and I'm sure the efi would be better.

Thanks! That's great to hear. In fact the vibes on the 160 & 180 were bang in the range of the city speeds. Between 4-6k rpm if i remember correctly. After this till 9.5k rpm it was relatively smooth sailing.

[deemash]

What's the difference between Carb and the EFI ? Which one is better? Any vibes on the 200 RTR ABS?

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

http://m.autocarindia.com/Article.as...1912&type=News

Autocar India comparison of the Apache RTR 200 with Bajaj RS200.

[roamer]

Any news as when the Apache might get launched in Mumbai?

[nkrishnap]

Originally Posted by roamer

Any news as when the Apache might get launched in Mumbai?

Even TVS may not have any idea about it. They shipped 16 bikes to Bharath TVS in Bangalore and it was sold out the very next day. Now they are not receiving any supplies from the factory. From the looks of it, no matter how good the bike is, if there are no timely supplies then people will lose interest and it will invariably be a flop seller.

Come on TVS, do something about the deliveries