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Old 13th December 2017, 13:37   #46
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

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There are people who modify the stock muffler (by removing the baffles inside) to maintain the stock looks with louder note.
Oh yes, I am aware of that and it is quite a rarity to find those.(in Bangalore) At least not so many of them in one shot that are altered.( as in the picture posted earlier)

Also in the video, they were crushing a stock looking one . If it was altered, there would be weld marks on it.

Either ways, my concern is on what basis are the cops seizing these. I don't want to be caught and the muffler on my bike removed and crushed just because they think it is loud when I know very well it adheres to norms.

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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

IMO, Traffic Police and RTO have every right to confiscate illegal silencers but they have no rights to destroy them. Ideally they should have slapped a fine, ensured the owners changed to stock silencers and returned the aftermarket ones to them.

But before executing these actions they should have checked whether the decibel levels are under the norms or not. There are silencers which just give the 'Thump' a solid feel and makes them more pronounced.

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Are we saying the environment is biker's property to spoil freely? When they are spoiling the environment which is NOT their property with so very high level of freedom, what is wrong if Police /Government spoil these bikers property because this is polluting the mother earth?
(My opinion only)
I see from your profile that you own a Qualis and Santro. If by any chance you are still using your Qualis, you will be polluting 'Mother Earth' more than the RE guys with modified silencer.

Also anyone who uses a diesel car cannot comment on pollution. Period.
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Old 13th December 2017, 21:38   #48
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

Today's newspaper carried an article about this:
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The action was taken after police received complaints from residents and motorists about annoying defective silencers. The traffic police recently ran a campaign for stopping such vehicles and seizing defective silencers.
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Source:New Indian Express, Bangalore 13 Dec 2017 - Link
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Old 14th December 2017, 10:24   #49
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

I think the stock silencers on RE are quite good. Yesterday I was having tea outside my office while this RE guy started from the shop and moved on, it was quite silent. One KTM that joined him on the road was making more sound than RE.
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Old 14th December 2017, 16:18   #50
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

Well, apart from the legalities involved (whether it is a right thing for the cops do that or not), I'm very happy that somebody is doing something about the unruly RE menace. Here in Delhi, there are plenty of morons with those loud and ear deafening modified REs, who have nothing better to do in their lives. And they do it so shamelessly and in-considerably (no consideration for elders, sick people, infants, animals) that, at times, you just want to punch them in their face.

Enough of RANT. Though I have nothing against people who sensibly and responsibly ride their REs but at the same time I strongly believe that it is a step in the right direction to stop those idiots who cause trouble for others.
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Old 14th December 2017, 19:02   #51
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

Bangalore police have become vigilantes of late. A lot of what they do seems to be copying tamil movies of Arjun and Vijay. Instant justice seems to be accepted. Consider the number of police shootings recently. Never used to happen in Namma Bengaluru.
I'm all for law enforcement. But they have gone into a target driven mode. For example, While I was driving late one night, in front of Raj Bhavan (which is a one way road), cops were checking for drunken driving. They had placed some barricades and streamlining the traffic into 1 lane and checking. A Hyundai Accent taxi came in the wrong way and none of the 30 odd cops even stopped him. When I asked the cop why no one is stopping the guy going wrong way in a high security area, his answer was that this is a anti drunken drive and so they were ignoring the other offenses.
Similarly I've seen incidents where when commercial vehicles are being checked, rash 2 wheeler riders with no helmet and triple riding are not bothered. One signal in Jalahalli, checking of defective number plates was going on by 7-8 cops. A BMTC bus had tried to avoid the signal by driving on the wrong side of the median divider along with a lot of other vehicles. The half road was blocked with cops and stopped vehicles and the BMTC bus but none of the cops were even trying to clear the traffic.
I agree targets and vigilantism may help in building up statistics, but it does nothing to improve the ground situation.
The guys with modified silencers will use stock till the drive is over and then the noise will start again. Has anyone noticed that the compulsory helmet rule has now been almost given up?
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Old 14th December 2017, 19:22   #52
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

This reminds me of the saying that victims have no rights and culprits have every right. Victims of such loud silencers should suffer in silence, they don't have any right to complain if they are not complaining against all the other noises. On the other hand, culprit has every right to pay a paltry fine and receive back his valuable dabba silencer, continuing his holy duty of spreading heavenly music every where. Police are the bad guys, because they target only one brand. Either they should enforce ALL the rules to every-one, or no-one!

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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

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IMO, Traffic Police and RTO have every right to confiscate illegal silencers but they have no rights to destroy them. Ideally they should have slapped a fine, ensured the owners changed to stock silencers and returned the aftermarket ones to them.
I appreciate your point of view as the general public have certain rights which need to be upheld. However, as we have witnessed from time to time, it takes a drastic move like this to grab people's attention and deter them from such acts.
The traffic police's mostly successful initiative to make helmets compulsory was in the interest of the general public's safety but we still see people hang helmets from their handles or their arms only to hurriedly put them on (while riding) when a cop is in sight. I think of these people as one of the lowest forms of human existence as without helmets they'd just endanger themselves but with these antics, they are endangering people around them too. Same goes with seatbelts.

I live in a Mumbai suburb on the sixth floor of a housing complex and despite being a generally peace loving guy, am swamped with the worst homicidal tendencies when i am awoken by blokes announcing their arrival by deliberately revving their loud exhausts and racing down the adjoining lane at 2 in the night with utter disregard for the society in general. And it happens every single day, at various times between 11 to 4. Sincere apologies for the rant.

Regarding destruction of property, the FDA burned a lot of confiscated gutka satchets after the ban was imposed (Monumentally idiotic, in my opinion, given the amount of pollution caused by burning plastic). But it was an act which grabbed eyeballs and made people aware.

IMHO, the theatrical move of crushing silencers might just be the "boogeyman" who'll scare these kids into being less of a nuisance to society.
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

I fully support this move. This curbs the problem directly and instils fear in the mind of such people who fit loud exhausts to their bikes. Please do not confine this to RE only but in the market, there are many Pulsars and other motorcycles which have gotten their exhausts changed to a noisy one. I wonder what the owners want to convey and if they don't get a headache themselves by fitting those noisy locally made exhausts?

At times while riding my bike (of course with a regular exhaust) I am in a fix when I suddenly hear a loud noise from the bike behind which is soon going to overtake me - but not sure from which side - because of the speed and the loud exhaust. That loud exhaust, at that moment does increases my heart beat for sure.

This is a nuisance for sure which should be arrested.
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

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I fully support this move. This curbs the problem directly and instils fear in the mind of such people who fit loud exhausts to their bikes. Please do not confine this to RE only but in the market, there are many Pulsars and other motorcycles which have gotten their exhausts changed to a noisy one. I wonder what the owners want to convey and if they don't get a headache themselves by fitting those noisy locally made exhausts?
I support this move as well. These nonsense contraptions are a menace for sure.

There is a small but irritating problem with the stock silencer.
With the stock silencer, the valve-train clatter from the 350 versions is extremely irritating.
With an after market silencer, the loud noise of the exhaust overpowers and masks away the ugly valve train noise (sort of gives a feeling of smoothness ).
The actual solution should come from RE itself, by reducing extreme harshness and clatter, resulting in a naturally sweet sounding exhaust note.
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Has anyone noticed that the compulsory helmet rule has now been almost given up?
Not really.
I see cops catching them left right and center specially on weekends. Off late I am seeing more of these checks specially on the route I take from Thippasandra to Jayanagar.
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

A bit off topic but I have noticed that there is this new stupid craze with bikers where they have started installing these bright LED lights on their bikes which blind traffic. I guess traffic cops should take action on these guys too.
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A bit off topic but I have noticed that there is this new stupid craze with bikers where they have started installing these bright LED lights on their bikes which blind traffic. I guess traffic cops should take action on these guys too.
No prizes for guessing that most of these are REs. Come to Pune and you will see a horde of them. I have seen people keeping the main headlight off and only the bright auxiliary ones ON.
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

I actually saw this last Saturday in front of me. I was traveling in a car and saw signal a bike to stop and later proceed with removing his silencer. Funny thing was I didn't even hear the bike - So I am not sure if Officers are actually capable of doing their duty correctly. This was the Indirangar/Old Madras Junction.

On the modded menace: High time such a step was taken. These chaps have made our lives miserable. I also ride a Bullet but why would I want it to make more noise than it already does! We love the thump and I honestly miss it, but modding it just makes it noisy and nothing else.
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Re: Cops remove loud exhausts & crush them with a road roller

As fate would have it, I fell victim to this drive.

I was riding my friends Enfield which was lying idle for the last 6-7 months and I was using it intermittently since last week and one fine morning I rode right into the arms of cops standing in front of police station.
I was fined for 'shrill horn' which was nothing but dual horn and wasn't annoying in anyway.

The whole process is flawed as I realized while waiting there.
As in all Govt places, i was asked to wait for no reason when I could have paid the fine on the spot and let off.
They asked me to park the bike inside the compound and it was chained to some other bikes that had broken number plates, loud exhausts and mine was the only one with the 'shrill horn'. Thankfully I had all the documents in copy which they wanted for record or else the bike would have remained chained. They confiscated one horn and left the other and in the meantime there were two other Bullets chained for loud exhausts.
As per them, I am supposed to go to court to pay the fine which the Inspector mentioned if I speak to the higher authority who was a young chap sitting in a jeep and never stepped out, I can pay on the spot and be let off. As usual I had to do some to and fro between the Jeep and the station till he said okay to pay on the spot. At the end,they want it to be paid at the station and not the court and that was quite obvious.
After an hour of standing or walking I was let off with a slip for the offense.
While leaving, I had a chat with the higher authority who seemed to be an inspector of higher grade and seemed to be one of the young qualified guys.
I mentioned that there is no decibel meter used and on what basis was he catching bikes with loud exhausts or horns. His reply was quite a full stop in itself - any additions or alterations made with no RTO approval is an offense. Forget the decibel meter

The other inspector who I was dealing with said any exhaust that isn't stock ,is not allowed. Forget the decibel meter again.

Heck,these guys think that there is just one exhaust that is stock to all bikes, and that is the long one. The 500cc Bullet I was on was a 96 model bike and back then there were no long exhaust but the 500's did have a long one but not like the ones on the new bikes.
He confirmed with another constable who seemed to be an exhaust specialist who said it's the right one for a 96 Bullet and he didn't know if it was a 350 or 500.
The only part they are clear about is that the really old Bullets are loud and they will be let off

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