[Aniket6]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

3L plus for a commuter, that too for Whitefield traffic is a waste of money IMO. Most owners of higher capacity motorcycles would gladly zoom around in an Activa, when it comes to city rides.

Not generalizing, but in my case I would take the R3 anyday. I have an access and a R3 and commute from Mathikere to Bellandur daily (60 kms). R3 is so easy to maneuver in the city and just as competent in the open roads.
Funnily, The ride quality and seat comfort is what I like the most about it in the terrible roads and traffic conditions we have. Mileage sucks though.

[Bhodrolok]

Originally Posted by hungrygamer

Ladies and Gents

Was all set to go for RR310 but the dealership guys told about 6 months waiting period plus the charm of twin cylinders is luring me

That's odd. I went to TVS first week of August & they had the Red bike in stock while they claimed a 2-3 week wait for the matte black one. I went to Neo TVS on Banerghatta road BTW

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by Aniket6

Mathikere to Bellandur daily (60 kms).

Thats a long commute compared to his requirement of 6 kms one-way.

[dextor]

If we compare the pricing of New Ninja with R3, do you think it is justified?
Are there any chances of Yamaha also going the same way of reducing the prices for R3? Also heard Yamaha plans to launch an updated R3 (but don't know when).

[Vysakh]

Originally Posted by dextor

Also heard Yamaha plans to launch an updated R3 (but don't know when).

The new R25 is still being tested elsewhere. Once that's launched they'll start testing the R3. So, it's gonna take quite a while.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by dextor

If we compare the pricing of New Ninja with R3, do you think it is justified?

Metzelers just costs 7k aftermarket - and thats the major difference between the two now?

[IshaanIan]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Doubt any of these options will feel like an upgrade, in peak Whitefield traffic. IMO - you should resist the temptation and stick to the unicorn

Originally Posted by AtheK

Without a doubt, even though RR is not too high a capacity bike, i still prefer to take my trusty old RTR to office, much easier to commute.

I just wanted to represent the rare group of people that do prefer a higher engine capacity bike even in the city. I do roughly about 100kms of riding on a daily basis in Hyderabad and a lot of it does involve traffic. Although my RC390 has developed issues with the fan motor I think and the fact that service center guys had changed my coolant from engine ice back to company stuff, meaning that it does heat up quite a lot, I still prefer it over any other lighter smaller bike. Even over a ktm 200. Once you figure out how to extract the most out of your machine and manage to stay fit enough to do so, every small gap in traffic makes each of those extra little CCs worth it. Sure I might not be getting from point A to point B in the city any faster that I might on a 150cc bike, but I sure do have a LOT more fun doing so.

[AtheK]

Originally Posted by IshaanIan

I just wanted to represent the rare group of people that do prefer a higher engine capacity bike even in the city. I do roughly about 100kms of riding on a daily basis in Hyderabad and a lot of it does involve traffic. Although my RC390 has developed issues with the fan motor I think and the fact that service center guys had changed my coolant from engine ice back to company stuff, meaning that it does heat up quite a lot, I still prefer it over any other lighter smaller bike. Even over a ktm 200. Once you figure out how to extract the most out of your machine and manage to stay fit enough to do so, every small gap in traffic makes each of those extra little CCs worth it. Sure I might not be getting from point A to point B in the city any faster that I might on a 150cc bike, but I sure do have a LOT more fun doing so.

A 100 km a day and 12 km a day up and down in Whitefield in Banglore, tough to compare. All I will do is stress my bike without any purpose known to me, and push her to more wear and tear. I used to take it to manyta but for such small distances, no more a high powered bike. It's again me, and my decision is mainly because of the route I take if I can atleast get a couple of km worth of open stretch I might still take the RR, but doesn't happen.

[quickfox11]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Metzelers just costs 7k aftermarket - and thats the major difference between the two now?

The main differences according to me between Yamaha R3 & Ninja 300, and the preferred one in each dept would be:

1. Ex showroom Price(3.48Lakhs vs 2.98 Lakhs)-N3
2. Power (321cc 42ps vs 296cc 39ps)-R3
4. No Slipper clutch vs Slipper clutch-N3
3. Tyres (Metz sportec vs MRF)-R3
4. Ground clearance(160mm vs 135mm)-R3
5. Weight and Tank (173kg 14lts vs 179kg 17lts)-both
6. ASS cost (as expected vs very high)-R3

So, its a tough choice. While the 50K price difference seems huge, its may happen that after a long term ownership, both may stand equal due to high ASS of Kawasaki.

Kawasaki's moves towards heavy localisation may bring the ASS prices down, but there has been no words from them at all.

For a regular ride and touring purpose, I don't think the points 2 to 5 have any major impact on choosing which one. Both are butter smooth twin cylinders and very addictive once you start revving them!

What would I chose? N300 for price difference, looks and coz m a Kawa fan boy!

[Sutripta]

^^^
I think the R3 has a lower seat. Might be important to some.

Regards
Sutripta

[quickfox11]

Originally Posted by Sutripta

^^^
I think the R3 has a lower seat. Might be important to some.

R3 780mm vs N300 785mm So pretty close!

[IshaanIan]

Originally Posted by Sutripta

^^^
I think the R3 has a lower seat. Might be important to some.

Regards
Sutripta

Ninja revs higher than R3, R3 sounds better, Ninja is more stable on highways owing to its longer wheelbase, there are infinite ways to look at things that mere spec sheet comparisons cannot hope to highlight.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by quickfox11

The main differences according to me between Yamaha R3 & Ninja 300, and the preferred one in each dept would be:

Also, R3 handled pretty average earlier, due to soft suspension plus those MRF tyres. Things seem to have got better post the Metzeler update, and the Ninja might suffer from MRFs now. But the Ninja might still come on top with the tyre upgraded.

Originally Posted by quickfox11

Kawasaki's moves towards heavy localisation may bring the ASS prices down, but there has been no words from them at all.

Doubt if the high labour costs will come down soon - but the spares like brake pads should have a big difference now. Endurance v/s Nissin.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by quickfox11

2. Power (321cc 42ps vs 296cc 39ps)-R3

IIRC, The R3 is short on power than N-300 at the wheel and that too by a decent margin. If someone has dyno results, please share.

Ya, its confusing between both. Both are Japs, buy whosoever has better service in your area.

[quickfox11]

Originally Posted by IshaanIan

there are infinite ways to look at things that mere spec sheet comparisons cannot hope to highlight.

Very well said!

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Doubt if the high labour costs will come down soon - but the spares like brake pads should have a big difference now. Endurance v/s Nissin.

Yes plus the availability of generic spares like wires etc will increase as they are now made locally. And they are offering 3 years unlimited kms warranty. Top it up with zero dep insurance and hope you are safe!

Originally Posted by Sheel

IIRC, The R3 is short on power than N-300 at the wheel and that too by a decent margin.

Not really. Sharing dyno results from Motorcycledotcom (+yamaha3racingdotcom) which also declared N300 as winner over R3, but by a very slight margin, due to R3's softer suspension and lack of power at top end. And the bikes they tested were all fitted with same pirelli tires in stock sizes.

Both are amazing street bikes. R3's broad power band gives it an edge in traffic and the new tires, ABS and cost of ownership makes it a no brainer. I was among the few people in Pune who got to test ride the new R3, and was bought by my close friend afterwards. The difference between old and new R3 is more confident inspiring for sure.

N300 on the other hand feels a bit premium while riding (no clue why). Feels powerful on highways as power comes a little later. Slipper clutch makes the city ride smooth and fun. Push, shift down, find a gap, shoot!

Point is, R3 ownership is hassle free. Else, both of these are super solid twins.