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Old 14th June 2019, 16:22   #31
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Did you try changing the fuel cap and engine oil. Try Motul Jaso MB once.
Fuel cap hasn't been changed. Oil is as per specification thought I use the one by Veedol for scooters.
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My Activa is 2015 vintage (just prior 3g model). I use it for 5-6 kms daily. I have also had enough and more occasions to use it after a gap of 3-4 weeks. I have never had a single issue of difficulty of starting in the mornings. The only grouse I have had is post parking in the rain. The water seems to seep in the instrument console eliciting a faint buzzing sound (from the indicator I guess). Thereafter, I have starting issues to overcome which I have to use the choke.
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Honda is calling it 'the quiet revolution', but it's so quiet that even the dealers are unaware of its launch.

So like a fool I trundled into Saphire Honda Showroom on Kanakpura Road hoping to make a downpayment and get the first scooter, but the staff have not heard of this launch. And I didn't have any patience to educate them, so walked out. The indifference is shocking. They firmly know that whatever Honda launches will sell anyways, so 'why be in the know'?

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Honda is calling it 'the quiet revolution', but it's so quiet that even the dealers are unaware of its launch.

So like a fool I trundled into Saphire Honda Showroom on Kanakpura Road hoping to make a downpayment and get the first scooter, but the staff have not heard of this launch. And I didn't have any patience to educate them, so walked out. The indifference is shocking. They firmly know that whatever Honda launches will sell anyways, so 'why be in the know'?

I think its a media unveil and dealers might get info about the model slightly later, with the pricing info as well. And it could also be that the dealers are waiting to clear the existing stock. Honda seemed to have learnt a serious lesson after the BS4 fiasco and have worked on this product much earlier than the deadline to avoid the mess that they did last year when BS4 kicked in for two wheelers. So they can still take their time to clear out all the existing stock and then bring this one to sale.

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I do think we need a separate thread for the starting problem of activa.

Since I have both a 2015 HET 125cc and a Non-HET 2010, 110cc engine versions and the respected service manuals.

The first 110cc aviator that I had Initially had the starting problem and battery used to get depleted in 6 to 12months time.
Both the aviator and activa since 2010 use a 3AH Gel battery. The model I would recommend to replace is a XLTZ5, this battery is slightly taller you will need to slightly bend to straigten the battery holder clamp (a piece of removable metal held by a long screw).
This XLTZ5 4ah lasted me from 2013 to 2018.

For the 2015 Activa 125cc which is even more prone to starting issue. I have replaced the orginal battery with a XLTZ7 this is twice the capacity as the original stock battery(2.5ah to 3ah), this battery is even taller. So you will need to bend the clamp to as straight as possible and also use a longer bolt.

Another problem in the Activa 125 disc version is that, it take a much harder press of the brake lever button to make the starter relay click. To remedy this, one will need to remove the brake lever bolt and slide away the lever and then trim the plastic as shown in the below image from the starter switch, there two such switches in rear break lever, one is for the starter relay and the other for the rear brake light, so you need to do it for the starter switch. Do not do this if you don't have this problem or on older scooters which are already worn out.

This above solution is for those who do not want a drop in fuel efficiency but can use the electrical starter for longer and several times.

My 2010 aviator Non-HET version starts instantly and it was tuned by honda service center to a richer setting, it also gives lower fuel economy. This was done some time in 2011, will have to revisit the setting for a more optimum compromise between fuel efficiency and instant start.

I also have the factory carburetor settings from the service manuals for 110cc, 110HET and 125 HET, so for those people who need to experiment with changing the mixture to rich (you have a reference to return to stock value, should things go wrong).

Will post them in a separate thread or if such a thread already exists. Since this thread is about the new Fuel injected scooter.
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I'm eagerly looking to change my 2014 Activa HET which has run a mere 20k kms. In terms of reliability, there were no niggles or any cold start issues. It is a perfect example of fill it, shut it, forget it.
There is no strong reason to buy a new scooter apart from the fact that my daily run has increased from 10 kms to 50 kms which is taking a toll on my back and a good suspension is a must now. Will the new BS VI compliant machine have a significantly better suspension as compared to the HET model?
Also had a TD of the Access 125 and the Burgman. Access 125 had a weird seating position for my well built 6 feet frame. The Burgman ticked the boxes well, but with it's puny rear tyre makes it's bulky body look out of proportion.
Really confused which scooter should I go for.
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On scooters if I'm not wrong there's a vacuum operated fuel tap.

For the sake of experimenting you could bypass this for a couple of days and see if it improves starting,
Where is this tap? Can you explain a bit more on how to bypass it?

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Just to be clear my presumption is that motorcycle isn't starting due to lack of adequate fuel, because if that weren't the issue you'd all get Gasoline High from sniffing in those vapours when turning the motor so many times without firing.
Seems to have a point here. Lack of petrol flow could be the reason.
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Where is this tap? Can you explain a bit more on how to bypass it?

This is what the things looks like, it would be on the underside of the fuel tank.


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On scooters it is activated by the vacuum from the engine, for comparison this is the manual one on regular motorcycles.


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Either you could get an alternative from another scooter or simply find a motorcycle petcock with matching thread to replace the vacuum operated one on yours to see if the petcock is the cause of all concerns.


My bet is on it as otherwise a factory tuned machine without any air-leaks should by no means need more than 2~3 kicks at max with the choke on. In 30k+ km's I've only had to use the choke 'ONCE' to start my CT100B when I started the motorcycle after a night spent in Behror, Rajasthan, otherwise a kick or two would get the job done without the Choke i.e unless left idle for over a month.


Do share updates for the benefit of the others.


And I hope everyone knows that the kick-starter is only for emergencies on modern motorcycles, especially the likes of scooters that need adequate vacuum to derestrict the petcock.
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