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Old 9th September 2019, 16:55   #16
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I have seen quite a few fatal accidents involving self drive cars and bikes in Coorg.

They are a real nuisance to other road users. Given the number of such crashes, I am surprised that rental companies are still able to run profitably.
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Old 10th September 2019, 14:39   #17
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I agree with you, I've seen many abandoned bikes on ORR in Bangalore, sometimes rental companies are to be blamed but not always, many of these bikes have dead battery (or removed) which makes it difficult to locate abandoned bikes.
I almost hit one of those yellow scooters on Ibllur flyover parked near the turn on flyover. I think without proper law/verification process it is difficult for rental companies (or cops) to block license of such users.
Most of these companies ask you to upload a selfie and D.L. and based on some Image processing algorithm (match photo with selfie uploaded) they allow you to rent, anyone can paste photo on fake D.L. and get a bike in few minutes without worrying about being fined later!
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Another larger issue I see is the large percentage of underage people who seem to be easily getting access to use these services. So lack of accountability which is promoting the rash driving gets multiplied further with an underage person (and I am talking as young as 12-13) being the rider.

Culturally I don't think we are ready for such easily accessible self ride/drive rentals.
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Old 12th September 2019, 18:28   #19
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I agree. i see a lot of senseless and rash riding near JP Nagar, especially when the person is on a rented bike. Today, a chap removed a Volo scooter from the parking lot just before Ecospace flyover and was promptly caught by a constable standing near the newly opened shell petrol pump.
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Old 12th September 2019, 18:31   #20
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Voted Yes.

With a simple observation on how the public property is treated in India, one can surely say the answer is a big YES.

My own experience, had given my bike to many of my friends of whom I found only one friend treating it as his own bike, he always treats the bike with utmost care.
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Old 12th September 2019, 22:52   #21
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When stopped by cops to verify documents these riders prefer to surrender their scooters, so the cops in Bangalore are wary to check as it hits their 'chai paani'. These guys suddenly cut cars and go about their wanton ways, and have become a 'pain on roads'. They certainly don't treat these scooters as if their own!
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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR View Post
Absolutely!
Have seen these scooters being driven by children, parked on the fast lane on top of flyovers, etc.
These bike rentals are yet to start in my city, so I am not aware how these function. Don't they ask for some money deposit or check valid original DL before handing over the vehicles? And how are users just able to abandon the bikes anywhere? Whom do the users handover the keys to after the ride?
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Old 13th September 2019, 10:56   #23
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You will not have a day, where one of these scooters is not found abandoned on the Ecity expressway, of all the places! One of the service providers had to put up boards along the expressway that abandoning their scooters on the Eway is a punishable offence. But that hasn't stopped the menace. Obviously, if the culprits could read signboards, they would be wise enough to not do such a thing in the first place.

Heck, I've seen a guy riding wrong way on the expressway on one of these. Guess I've seen everything now.
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Old 13th September 2019, 17:06   #24
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Voted yes.

When the poll first showed up few days ago I felt that I will obviously be biased to agree with this sentiment. The reason is that we will only notice when something goes wrong (like someone driving badly) and since these scooters are easily identifiable (bright yellow or with their branding) we will notice more instances of bad driving on these scooters v/s regular riders. So I hesitated from voting.

However, I tried one of these services this week and now I feel there are a couple of factors which will attract more bad drivers to these services.

1. As mentioned by others before, the riders don't own the bikes so they don't care. This attracts a group of people who don't respect others' property and will use them recklessly.

2. The rental companies don't actually care about good driving and safety. It's all just on paper.

Their actions clearly shows this:
* Most of the rental scooters don't have both mirrors. You can bet that if you find a scooter with mirrors it's probably only a couple of days old. This is not at all a concern for these companies.

* I found the helmet missing 3 out of 5 times I booked a scooter. While I cancelled my booking and tried to make alternate arrangements (search for another bike or look for Uber) many others didn't care about this and just started their trip without helmet.

These issues will automatically filter out riders who care about safety and good driving.

So, now I have to agree with this sentiment that bad drivers will converge more towards these services.
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