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Old 12th February 2020, 22:04   #16
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If you’ve developed an itch to upgrade like I had back in jun 2019 - I suggest go for twin cylinders now. The feel of owning & riding one is unparalleled.

It’s not that RR310 won’t be a worthy upgrade - I mean to myself, I upgraded from 220FI to Ninja 300. Experience has been truly amazing.

I’d suggest try all the options you’ve before you for an upgrade if budget isn’t a constraint:

1) R3
2) N300
3) Interceptor 650

These bikes are extremely good and refined to a wonderful extent which a single cylinder wouldn’t give. Need I say more on the power? They’re purely ballistic.

As for single cylinders:

1) RR310 is a worthy upgrade with all the feature list on it

2) KTM D390 (this ones madness) - I personally like this bike for its nimble characteristics and insane acceleration. I see you have disliked them already but I still advise you to ride it once

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Old 13th February 2020, 01:25   #17
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Thanks a lot for all your inputs. Extremely informative.

I happened to test drive the following bikes:

RE Himalayan - The particular bike I rode was in pathetic shape. The bike had only about 5k kilometers on the odo, but felt like it had clocked 50k+ kilometers. I liked the comfortable position, visor and the overall ride quality. Biggest concern with the bike for me was that it lacked power. Even my RTR200 feels much snappier.

RE Interceptor 650 - VFM. A twin 650 at 3L on road. Pulls nicely, handles decently. Engine compliments the bike really well. I liked the bike, but no protection against wind blast and I truly believe it is not the best choice for touring.

Duke 390 Adventure - Don't ask me where and how I got a TD for this bike.

I loved the bike. Since the bike was brand new, I kept the bike under 5k rpm. But the bike felt like the perfect choice for me. The power, the comfortable seats, the tech. Excellent package by KTM. 3.5L On-road Chennai is a bit of a stretch for me, but I really think this bike is going to be a game changer.

In other news, I found some gems in the Pre-Owned goldmine.

Ninja 650 - 2017 Dec - 3000 KMs clocked - Rs.4.5L. A close family friend owns this bike. I believe it is a very fair price and I know the bike has been maintained very well since day 1.
BMW G310R - 2018 - 3000 KMs clocked - 2.65L
BMW G310R - 2019 - 100 KMs clocked - 2.8L Got SOLD in 2 days.
Benelli 600i - 2017 - 11,000KMs clocked - 3.68L

This is when I realized, with a budget of around 5L, there are some really great deals in the pre-owned market. I think, I will wait for a year and upgrade to a 600cc+ bike as suggested by few BHPians. The Ninja 650 seems to be the almost perfect tourer for me.

For now, the RTR200 will continue to munch miles.
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Stay away from the benelli 600i. I have ridden it and it is as agile as a dead crocodile. Only good stuff about it is the fantastic inline 4 exhaust note. It isn't fast too for a 600.
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Thanks a lot for all your inputs. Extremely informative.

I happened to test drive the following bikes:
MadrasTurbo, I would suggest that you take stock of your requirements and budget (not just today but in the long run for maintenance) before making a final decision. The reason I am saying this is that in your first post you had mentioned about the higher service costs of a Duke 250 as a red flag for you. These bigger bikes that you are exploring now will also come with bigger service bills. They are not prohibitively expensive but consumables will need to be accounted for in advance. For example, a fellow forum member changed the tires on his new pre worshipped Kawasaki 650 and the total amount came to Rs 26,000 for Angel GT tires. If it fits your wallet, then I will suggest go with a bigger bike and enjoy your motorcycling.

With a Rs 5 lakh budget, you can get a near new Kawasaki Z650 or Ninja 650, which to be honest are really great bikes. If you stretch your budget a little or wait a bit more, you can get 2014 / 2015 Triumph Street Triple 675 bikes with not too many kilometers on the clock. The very capable Honda CBR 650F is also in your price range. There are a ton of options if you are patient.

If you prefer to go the new route, I would suggest between the Interceptor 650 (throw in a simple windscreen, it will do wonders for touring) or the KTM 390 Adventure or the new TVS Apache RR 310.

Happy shopping!
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MadrasTurbo, I would suggest that you take stock of your requirements and budget (not just today but in the long run for maintenance) before making a final decision. The reason I am saying this is that in your first post you had mentioned about the higher service costs of a Duke 250 as a red flag for you. These bigger bikes that you are exploring now will also come with bigger service bills.!
What I meant was, for a bike that is under or around 300cc, I don't want to spend a lot on maintenance. Also, a few KTM owners had messaged me saying maintenance was not that high for them and asked me to reconsider the KTMs and that's why I gave it a second thought.

That being said, I don't expect low service costs for a 650cc+ bike. Yes, I will definitely think about feeding an elephant before buying one.
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Hi TBHPians,

Bit of context
.... I have clocked about 50,000KMs and have not faced with any major issues, except for the few initial niggles that TVS promptly took care of. I have taken the bike on a lot of long rides and the bike has been extremely comfortable. .......
I tour quite a lot and top speed is not a concern. A bike which can cruise comfortably at 110-120KMPH should suffice. I would prefer a fully faired bike as my biggest issue with my current bike is wind blast.....Lastly, any other bikes to consider?Your valuable thoughts would be extremely helpful for me to decide.
I had (recently sold) a RC390 (which I absolutely loved) and have a Versys 650. Since you like touring, I would suggest that you upgrade to something like a used Versys 650 - you'll get good, well-maintained bikes in the 4-4.5 lakh rupee range with all needed touring accessories. The comfort and ability to munch miles is mind-blowing, and if you are 5'8" or more you will have no problems flat-footing the bike. The bike does not get hot even in dense city traffic. I daresay this will not be a compromise step up, but an investment that will enable you to do tours that may presently be daunting. Do try this option once.
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Lastly, any other bikes to consider? Though I just love the brutal power figures of the KTM Twins, the RC390 is a bit too uncomfortable for my liking. I see the updated model is expected later this year. Is it worth waiting for it?Link here.

Your valuable thoughts would be extremely helpful for me to decide.
Do check out Dominar 400 - its a good engineering with great performance .
No cost cutting at any section !
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