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13th November 2021, 18:41 | #751 |
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| Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 With ever rising fuel costs, my hunt for a perfect EV commuter to meet my needs has begun. I am looking for a scooter to accommodate a 6ft 1in wide built guy with reasonable comfort and ergonomics. Can anyone, who has taken test drive of Ola S1 confirm if it will be comfortable enough for me? I have tested the Ather previously, but it felt too tiny and cramped up. Last edited by Travelling_Monk : 13th November 2021 at 18:45. |
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13th November 2021, 18:41 | #752 | |
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| Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 Quote:
I have a few questions on Ola and how it is related to the Ather, etc...
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13th November 2021, 20:56 | #753 | |
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1) Comfortable seat with good ergonomics 2) Weighs up pretty good while driving. Feels well planted and not lightweight. 3) Size wise, it doesn't look puny for tall or well built people and doesnt feel cramped. 4) Has good acceleration and good range which should help your cause. | |
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13th November 2021, 22:06 | #754 | ||||||
Distinguished - BHPian | Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 One other thing i left out in my previous post is the light itself. A video i had watched of the Ola had a strange beam pattern almost like a spot. But in the road that I saw, it wasn't as pronounced like that. It had a decent spread. Although it was nothing to write home about, it was acceptable compared to the competition. Light Quote:
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On a serious note, I agree that Ather's leg room is a problem for tall people like you. I've seen tall people riding the Ather sitting with their legs on the rear footrest! Thd problem with Ola is that the difference in height of the seat and the floorboard is less. Check it once yourself and then decide. You may also have to check if a pillion rider will get enough space as the seat length is less. | ||||||
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13th November 2021, 23:34 | #755 | |
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I think I will cancel my booking. Anyway I will wait till I take a test ride. Last edited by Gannu_1 : 15th November 2021 at 14:47. Reason: Corrected. Thanks. | |
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14th November 2021, 11:00 | #756 | |
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14th November 2021, 13:09 | #757 |
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| Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 My Experience with OLA electric S1Pro 1. Overall Design, Visual impact and build quality. Pros · Overall scooter design is excellent with colours appealing to all cross sections of people · Aero Dynamic with ABS fibre body. - Cannot compare with Steel / Aluminium bodies of ICE engines. · Paint job is excellent. · Glossy colour has lot of reflections and prone to smudges. Matt is a visual treat. · Very good under body protection for the battery pack. (a black hard fibre cover with drain holes) · Confirmed IP67 rating for whole scooter (As per OLA Customer care). Whole scooter covered under warranty. Need to look out for terms and conditions. Cons · Plastic body panels can break (with small accident/fall) · Lot of panel gaps visible in the demo and test drive vehicles. · Very thick floorboard with 165 mm ground clearance. Worried of floorboard and under body touching the heavy humps in Indian cities. · The body panels can be easily scratched. I do prefer the dark colours to the light ones for this main reason. Floorboard will be very prone to scratches. · Very flimsy footrest for the pillion and Side-stand is also very susceptible to failure in short time. They have used magnetic sensors. · Could see the motor assembly from below and even though it is IP67 rated, a hard hit on the unscientific road humps will be disastrous. · Colours like red/yellow appeals well but can easily fade as it is applied to the fibre panels vs steel / aluminium ones. · QC in production line need to be pulled up to take care of these several small issues. · Most of the buttons have dual / multipurpose. Figuring it out for a lay may will be little hard task. · Only passive cooling of the battery. This is going to be the biggest problem. Driving the scooter for a long range can cause battery to heat up and we need to experience how the cooling mechanism works · 2. Software / Hardware/Screen/Electronics Pros · The map is MapMyIndia Maps. (Not the google maps as people think). · As everyone know by now there is no subscription pack initially and be sure that there will be surprises afterwards. · This is not going to be free for everyone, may be after a year they will start. No one is ready to give an answer right now. · MoveOs looks funky and will need several OTA updates to ensure our feedbacks are incorporated · Screen is sufficiently bright and user-friendly. · Waterproofed screen. Driven in rain. No droplets visible inside. Cons · Don’t expect google maps. Like sophistication. Maps are still good for the city drives. · Screen is not tamper proof. We really need to make it tamper proof using proper screen guards (Not approved by OLA yet). Prone to scratches without protection. · There will be several OTA updates to resolve the bugs. (Not really a con) · The demo personnel were not able to show the battery temperature / motor temperature on the MovOS saying it is locked on demo vehicle. · Need to check the availability of these in the companion App. 3. Drive, Drivability, Power, Acceleration, Suspension, lag etc Pros · Drive by wire system for acceleration. Too sensitive sensors. A touch is sufficient to move the vehicle · No lag whatsoever while starting / first time usage on any modes.(If your hand is taken off from the brake) · The lag kind of feeling with starting or stopping of the bike is due to electronic cut-off while applying brakes · Motor supports regenerative braking. Need to see this is implemented or not. The test vehicle feels that as soon as we touch the brake, the engine gets cut off. · Overall suspension is good, I felt little bouncy, may be due to excessive tyre pressure on the demo vehicle. Cons · Feels there is lag while start driving the vehicle especially in the demo vehicle due to the driving habit on moving ICE vehicles with brakes on.(Actually it is just a feeling) · You will feel the same in start stop traffic. If you have the brakes on, the vehicle will not move. · To counter this in steep slopes they have introduced the hill hold assist, where the motor will assist you to hold the bike in a slope without applying brakes. 4. Charger and charging ports Pros · Length is sufficient. · Have a fan to dissipate heat Cons · Not waterproof. · Very flimsy and plasticky feel. · The mounting bracket is not free or not part of the original accessory. Need to purchase separately. · Charging socket can be opened by push-lock. (Notifications may come on the mobile App) 5. Conclusion. Overall excellent scooter considering this is the first version of Etergo scooter. They have tried to customise it to Indian conditions No comparison to Ather (nearest competition) due to price aspects. Ather can overtake this very easily by adding additional battery pack and competent pricing. Rest of the features are software driven. Battery cooling, Flimsy panels, Pathetic charger quality are my big concerns. Suspension, Acceleration, Headlights etc are good and sufficient Last edited by pradeepkm : 14th November 2021 at 13:14. |
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14th November 2021, 13:47 | #758 | |
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| Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 Quote:
All motors support regen including a Rs100 toy car, but its the controller which has to have regen capability in order to convert the AC voltage and current produced by the motor to DC of the battery. Whether Ola has such a motor controller is to be seen. Also no electric scooter in India has a liquid cooled pack. Considering the KW of the motor it doesn't need that and when its going to use the maximum kw of the motor, its assumed the vehicle is traveling at a high rate of speed. Even in a ICE car the fans in the radiator stop because the incoming air at that speed is more then what a fan can provide. | |
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14th November 2021, 18:15 | #759 |
BHPian | Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 As one of the early birds, received notification for a test ride. I registered for the 1st day of this test ride. Venue was Prestige Cube near to Forum Mall, Bengaluru. Negatives: 1) Switch gears felt tacky like remote control buttons and looks like it won't age gracefully. 2) The side foot pegs can be opened only with hand, if it's folded in completely. 3) The Mirrors are fixed with a single nut the traditional way and not how Ather has. 4) Minimalistic approach in design could be a hit or miss. Positives: 1) Good Ride and Handling for a scooter of this size. 2) Touchscreen is very well crafted and with IP67 and scratch resistant finish looks to be the centre of attraction. 3) Lot of customisation options from horn sound to display. 4) You can switch off the AOH to only DRL mode during daytime. 5) XXL size storage space to accommodate 2 half face helmets or 1 full face and 1 half face or 1 full face and 1 portable charger. 6) Initially they made helmet as mandatory, now it's optional. Good move 7) Decent size tubeless Tyres. 8) Sport Mode is itself sporty enough and since Hypermode was disabled couldn't test it. 9) Good visibility range of RVM's 10) Ride Height should be comfortable for most, but those above 6 feet might find it difficult. 11) 220mm and 180 Disc Brakes at front and rear provides good braking experience. And here are some pics from the Test Ride and Demo session: Last edited by Aditya : 15th November 2021 at 05:09. Reason: As requested |
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Distinguished - BHPian | Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 Yesterday afternoon, I received a call from one Mr. Prateek who introduced himself as an OLA employee and he wanted to speak to me about my review post above. He said he read this post of mine and felt sorry for the miscommunication at the test ride event. He told me that since the embargo were there for the media rides two days before the test rides for everyone, some of the executives had told me the same thing but there was no real embargo for us. He told that if he knew that I would be coming, he would've arranged a proper demo...wow! that was flattering! I thanked him for the call and told him that I can understand these small lapses and I just wrote my experience. Quote:
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15th November 2021, 09:33 | #761 |
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| Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 My brief conclusion from reading some of the member reviews is that higher range in the Ola aside, the Ather is a superior product overall to the Ola S1 / S1 Pro, however at a price that makes the Ola more attractive in comparison. Would that be a fair summary? @Hemanth: since you have good perspective of both products, any thoughts from you in particular? |
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15th November 2021, 10:05 | #762 |
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| Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 Indicators are one area that I feel these EV manufacturers should follow the traditional way of indicator implementation. I've seen a similiar implementation on the Chetak EV, and I feel offering buttons for indicators is a stupid move. On the Chetak, the implementation was far worse, as the left indicator is on the left side and the right indicator is on the right side. I feel Ola is purely banking on the pre release hype and response they've received. From what I've seen and read, vehicles offered for the test ride are worse than the V1 Harrier that was offered for media drives (read flimsy and uneven build throughout). Atleast from the pictures, the scooter doesn't look premium. Ather and Chetak are in a different league itself in terms of build and fit & finish. If someone is in the market for an EV for immediate purchase, I would recommend the Ather for moderate-high speed usage and the Pure Energy EV for low speed usage. My uncle has one for town usage, and for the price I feel it does its job in a perfect manner. Overall, I feel Ola is still some time away to achieve a thoroughly finished product with all of the niggles ironed out. Last edited by saikishor : 15th November 2021 at 10:09. |
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| Re: Ola's made-in-India Electric scooter, now launched at Rs. 99,999 Quote:
Have a couple of doubts which I'm not sure if they've been answered before. Someone who have done the test drive, please clarify these: 1. I've never seen a motorcycle with a single front fork, does it have any changes in the way it behaves? compared to the conventional dual forks in the feel and feedback while braking, cornering and in high speed stability 2. how does it pair to our smartphones? if it is via bluetooth, after how far does the scooty turns off? Because, if we just park it and don't manually turn off(which is making me anxious), and let's say we stepped out for buying stuff from a street vendor, I doubt we'll be outside the bluetooth range and isn't there a possibility that it could be stolen? and even if the engine cuts off power if the smartphone goes out of range, won't it pose a risk? 3. Regarding the brake-accelerator cut-off, yes, I use them combined(clutch-accelerator actually) so that the engine puts more torque on the wheels in inclines and tougher situations, but since EVs are instant torque(I've never ridden an EV, just theoretical knowledge) won't it be pointless to rev and brake at the same time(I'm assuming the throttle response is weak enough to use brake simultaneously to reduce the acceleration during scenarios like traffic for example)? Also, is it easy and equally fun to transition from a 20hp high revving 6-speed ice to an ev like ola s1 pro? Thanks! Quote:
True! My old duke 200 and the current r15v3 are completely ABS apart from the frame and essential bits. They're more flexible than steel, cheaper, weigh less(better economy and performance) and doesn't rust with time. Also, they're stronger than one can think since they're flexible, they don't break easily when dropped at very low speeds Last edited by shravansp24 : 15th November 2021 at 11:14. | ||
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2) Does the engine die in the Ather too when you apply the brakes? A friend tells me all EV bikes have this issue. I have not driven any EV so far, 2 wheeler or 4. Not even travelled in one. It seems what is being given for test rides is not a finished product. More like WIP. It is wrong. What the customer test rides should be the same vehicle he will get when he takes delivery. How can we take a leap of faith that all the bugs will be fixed when we pay full money and take delivery? What if they aren't? Last edited by Gansan : 15th November 2021 at 11:24. Reason: Add content. | |
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Ola has Range Top speed and pricing (for now) advantage. Ather is better engineered with good ride quality, build quality to it's advantage. I wish either one of it or both came with an ABS. Quote:
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