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Old 11th November 2008, 12:20   #16
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Ketan: Go with a Machismo, you won't regret. It will take care of all your needs. The new Machismo 500 is getting launched this Month in Chennai and it doesnt have fuel gauge. Why do you want it? Is there a real important reason...i know its convinient...you can always fit it as an access.

Alpha: Who gave you this wrong idea that Thump is bcos of the Torque. Both Electra and STD350 produce 3.26 kgm @ 3000 RPM. Both STD and Electra share the same engine...so thump should be same right???

The difference in thump is bcos of the Electrical Circuit, the STD 350 uses a CB Point whereas Electra uses a TCI circuit which results in the difference in the Thump. Machismo /TBird uses CDi and an Aluminium Engine which results even mutted thump. This can be fixed to an extent by using a Short Bottle silencer. People mod the SIlencer by removing the glasswool thereby making it a free flow...if you do this, ensure you can Carb is rejetted to take care of the setup...

Its similar to ****ty sounding RD350 on CDis and Musical RD350 on CB Points (though the diff much audible in Bullet)
Although I know this topic is very old, but lemme clarify:
I was talking about difference between the cast Iron Engine (whihc is on STD Bull and Electra) and AVL (which is on Machismo and TBrid).

And the torque figures that you are referring to are peak figures at particular RPM.
It talks nothign about torque at 500 RPM or 1000 RPM.

When you ride an electra, you realize that you dont really need to rev and gun the engine ... and you can ride at lower gear without putting much strain.
The same cannot be said for AVL engines.

And CB/CDI/TCI is not goign to change the thump to such an extent. CB/CDI/TCI all are just firing mechanisms, and under ideal conditions should be able to give similar results.

There are blokes who have converted their CB "points" firing to CDI firiing, with NO loss in thump.
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Old 11th November 2008, 22:32   #17
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I would like to tell you something.Two Electra's(4S and 5S) are seen by me Engine Opened in garage.They comes with "MAHLE" pistons without any extra "items" marked.no overbore thingy for sure.Can someone explain this? I used to believe that both std.350 and electra engines were the same! .std ,ofcourse comes with IPL STD pistons.
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Old 11th November 2008, 23:11   #18
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Mahle and IPL both supply pistons to RE. Some lots have the IPL piston and some have Mahle (Escorts Mahle) pistons. Mahle pistons(with Goetze rings) are a better combo than the IPL. When i bought a CI350 bore kit it came with the Mahle piston, lucky me.
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yeah.thanks for the confirmation.
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