[Vtach]

https://lrlmotors.com/products/himal...-spoked-wheels
Spoked tubeless Excel wheels are listed on this site for the Himalyan. How I wish some such options were available for the RE 650's too..

[BlinkerFluid]

Originally Posted by TusharK

Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 prototype crashes during testing

The Himalayan 450 is expected to be based on the K1 platform. It will be powered by a 450cc, liquid-cooled, single-cylinder engine estimated to produce around 40 BHP and 40 Nm.

40BHP? thats quite a jump in HP/litre compared to previous RE offerings. thats just a shade under the 650s power output. This would be quite a nice (relatively) analog alternative to the KTM 390 adventure at those power levels.

[RT13]

Originally Posted by TusharK

Himalayan 450 is expected to be based on the K1 platform. It will be powered by a 450cc, liquid-cooled, single-cylinder engine estimated to produce around 40 BHP and 40 Nm.

Say what now? 40 horses?? An 8.5% increase in displacement with nearly 70% increase in horsepower?! In a RE single? I mean, holy moley, talk about optimism. I’d like to have what they’re smoking.

I think closer to 30 is more likely. And even that is still a pretty darn decent trade (20%+ horses for 8.5% displacement) if it doesn’t add weight. Anything more is really a bonus, plus watch out for more RE first round failures if it’s a stressed engine.

On a separate note, spectator-porn aside, hope the chap is ok and that it wasn’t caused by some of the idiotic ‘sneak peak’ style spy press, the likes of the driving we saw on the Bajaj-Triumph video.

[100Kmphormore]

Say what now? 40 horses?? An 8.5% increase in displacement with nearly 70% increase in horsepower?!

Extremely likely a change in the right direction. The 411 was producing a measly 24 hp and air cooled. The 390 manages 44 in 373 cc itself, so the 450 is on par especially with that 45 NM torque. REs engines did not have that fun factor like the 390 and this one might, if the weight is around 180 kg and has a good chassis.

[bharath79]

Originally Posted by RT13

Say what now? 40 horses?? An 8.5% increase in displacement with nearly 70% increase in horsepower?! In a RE single? I mean, holy moley, talk about optimism. I’d like to have what they’re smoking.

I think closer to 30 is more likely. And even that is still a pretty darn decent trade (20%+ horses for 8.5% displacement) if it doesn’t add weight. Anything more is really a bonus, plus watch out for more RE first round failures if it’s a stressed engine.

On a separate note, spectator-porn aside, hope the chap is ok and that it wasn’t caused by some of the idiotic ‘sneak peak’ style spy press, the likes of the driving we saw on the Bajaj-Triumph video.

I believe it is also a liquid cooled engine. So hopefully the 40 figures are true. I wonder what prompted them to embark on a new Himalayan. It is like having a 650 and then liquid cooled 750 on top of that.

Regards
Bharath

[mh09ad5578]

Don't know if this post has any relevance ,I've seen the finished product on friends phone, photo was shared apparently from an ongoing photo shoot, it's completely finished. I was not allowed to touch the phone for fear of it being leaked. The bike looks a lot sleeker than the Himalayan 400 and what i observed the engine block visually looks a lot different from 400 mill. The photo was right side profile .Seeing the photo shoot I belive the product is a lot closer to launch. We are in for a treat! Awaiting eagerly.

[advstreak]

Originally Posted by mh09ad5578

The photo was right side profile.

Can you confirm if the production exhaust is stainless steel like in the spy pics here: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor...ml#post5449591

[navin_v8]

RE is on the roll and how! The rumored/estimated power figures for the new Himalayan 450cc OHC liquid cooled mill looks promising. 40 BHP with identical 40Nm torque is no push over, especially in the segment it is placed in. It will also fall in the A2 license category in the international markets that will help it boost sales (considering the level of interest in the international market after the roaring success of RE 650 twins).

I sincerely hope that the new platform resolves the infamous Himalayan chassis break once and for all. It will not be surprising to see if RE heavily tunes this engine to compete in Rallye Dakar.

For those cross shopping it will be a huge dilemma while choosing between all new Himalayan and 650 Twins. For those who know what they are buying (Retro Classic charm vs ADV versatility) and its purpose, the decision will be much easier and straightforward.

Looks like while the riders' prayers and wishes for affordable ADV's are falling on the deaf ears of the Big 4. RE has been silently hearing it and delivering. As usual, others will follow where RE leads.

Now wishing for a 750cc parallel twin liquid cooled Himalayan! Hope RE hears it! LOL!

[mh09ad5578]

Originally Posted by advstreak

Can you confirm if the production exhaust is stainless steel like in the spy pics here: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor...ml#post5449591

I am a bit hazy about the exact detail (two weeks back and over-excitement over seeing the pic very briefly) but the bike was all black, I think the exhaust unit was also matt black, there were hardly any chrome/silver accents. Also mostly all the panels/tank/exhaust on the finished bike are totally different from those on the test mules. The bike looks pretty sleek and proportionate (like a Himalayan on a diet)in the finished form unlike the test bikes which I found to be very disproportionate.

[RT13]

Originally Posted by 100Kmphormore

Extremely likely a change in the right direction. The 411 was producing a measly 24 hp and air cooled. The 390 manages 44 in 373 cc itself, so the 450 is on par especially with that 45 NM torque. REs engines did not have that fun factor like the 390 and this one might, if the weight is around 180 kg and has a good chassis.

To clarify, of course that would be a (great) step in the right direction! However I have absolutely zero belief that it can happen. To suddenly acquire high end design, engineering and precision manufacturing prowess overnight and abandon a successful business model is not going to happen. You referenced KTM - exactly my point, KTM has been building top class, world beating race machines for decades. They just set their sights on a business at a lower pricepoint and found a manufacturing partner with the scale and dedication to execute it. On a separate note, cutting weight to 180 while going up in power and displacement is doable but only at significantly higher cost (materials, engineering, components) and it will reflect in sticker shock - pretty sure they won’t do that. IF they had the means and method to deliver something like this, to choose to only apply said expertise to this particular product would be a strange choice. By that I mean, doing something like this would upset the entire apple cart - if they can squeeze 40 horses from a 450 single, getting quite a bit more out of a 650 twin while still maintaining decent pricing should be a much easier challenge. One which they show no signs of doing considering the recently launched Super Meteor and the others upcoming based on the same engine. So no I don’t for one second believe it’s possible - I think this is either a media error or, more likely, strategically disseminated click-baitey disinformation. I would be very happy to be proven wrong however. But that’s just me.

Originally Posted by bharath79

I wonder what prompted them to embark on a new Himalayan. It is like having a 650 and then liquid cooled 750 on top of that.

Yeah I never understood the strategy behind this. Nobody replaces an engine so quickly. A model typically goes through an upgrade cycle of a few facelift’s and many years before replacing an engine, even if pollution standards get more stringent.

Time will tell I suppose.

[100Kmphormore]

To suddenly acquire high end design, engineering and precision manufacturing prowess overnight and abandon a successful business model is not going to happen

Absolutely, particularly with a company like RE. But they have been selling the Himalayan for 7 years now and only the BS6 versions have been largely trouble free. The BS3 experiences must have set them rolling on a new platform - while making sales numbers by making correct the errors on the existing model at the time. i believe this is in research and making since 3-4 years atleast. The 650s too had a similar story - starting new - and this will be a hit, if it indeed touches 40 hp - i too am a little wary on that claim. The weight - i was only hoping. I just hope it wont cross the 200 kg mark gauging by its sleek looks.

[bsenroy]

Was browsing through Youtube and chanced upon this render of the upcoming 450s.
Seems like a faithful recreation based on the test mules that have been spotted so far, but does come across as really, really narrow. not sure if IRL the motorcycle will be this narrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkIUYyoMJ_g

[windiesel]

Originally Posted by Mr.Ogre

As my friend rightly pointed out - the Meteor 350's engine is based on the 650 twin

I'm surprised to hear that, could you ask your friend to elaborate please. Each of the cylinders of the 650 twins are 648/2 that is of approx 324cc and each has a Bore of 78 mm, and a Stroke of 67.8 mm. This means that if each of the two cylinders is used in isolation, this would result in a 324cc short stroke (over square) engine wherein the bore is greater than the stroke, loosely resembling what the Jawa Perak uses (81mm/65mm B & S). The Meteor on the other hand is a 349cc long stroke (under square) engine with a Bore of 72 mm and a longer Stroke of 85.8 mm. The Perak and Meteor engines as we know, are as different as chalk and cheese.

[TusharK]

A close look at the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450's speedometer

The upcoming Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 has been spotted testing numerous times in the past. But the latest spy images give us a better look at the bike's instrument console.



The Himalayan 450 test bike seen in these images is equipped with a circular cluster that is mounted at a steep angle just behind the front windscreen. In the centre is the gear position indicator with a digital speed readout on the right. The engine RPM readout is placed towards the outer edges of the unit.

Other information like the fuel gauge and trip meter is likely to be displayed on a separate screen positioned in the right-hand-side corner of the cluster. The instrument console is also expected to get Bluetooth connectivity.



This Himalayan 450 test mule also has a provision to mount a top case. It is equipped with a saree guard and has crash protection around the front as well. You can also see several exposed wires on this test bike

The Himalayan 450 is expected to be based on the K1 platform. It will be powered by a 450cc, liquid-cooled, single-cylinder engine estimated to produce around 40 BHP and 40 Nm.

Source: Rushlane

Link to Team-BHP News

[anilupadhya]

They are doing everything right to lock-in on the target customers.

The only way KTM can counter this motorcycle is to get the 390 adventure in the Husqvarna Norden 901 design. The 390 has all variants - tube, tubeless, basic, low seat height, adjustable suspension. Also cheap spares. Only the looks were polarizing for many. If they can fix that along with increasing the drivability at low speeds, it should be a tough competition for the Himalayan 450.