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Old 18th December 2023, 23:16   #1501
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

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It seems that both the models share this swingarm as technical specification on Triumph India website mention Twin-sided, cast aluminium alloy for both.
Current owners would be well advised to check the actual parts number from the spares catalog and then keep an eagle eye out for a recall.

This is not a small deal. At all.

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Old 18th December 2023, 23:28   #1502
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

Has any fellow owner installed the pullback handle bar raiser from carbon racing? If yes, is there any workaround needed for the wires, or their lengths are sufficient to install the handle bar raisers without tampering anything?
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

Carbon Racing guys are usually thoughtful to include wires with the risers, in case there is a stretch. Have they stopped now? Just call them to check
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Has any fellow owner installed the pullback handle bar raiser from carbon racing? If yes, is there any workaround needed for the wires, or their lengths are sufficient to install the handle bar raisers without tampering anything?
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Has any fellow owner installed the pullback handle bar raiser from carbon racing? If yes, is there any workaround needed for the wires, or their lengths are sufficient to install the handle bar raisers without tampering anything?
I have installed them. The clutch cable and front brake hose get pulled quite tight with the pullback risers, especially when you turn the handlebar to the extreme right or left.

Carbon Racing doesn't even include instructions, leave alone longer cables.

The remedy is to install the clutch cable and hose for the Scrambler 400X, but good luck finding spares. I am still waiting.
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Old 19th December 2023, 08:14   #1505
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Correction- It is Scrambler 400x and not Speed.




This motorcycle is just 560km old and the guy is using it in Manali. He own a motorcycle rental agency there. As per him, he was on well laid tarmac riding at 40kmph when the swing arm cracked.

No damage to the other parts as per the front left picture shared by him.
Bajaj already sources cast swing arms for the KTMs and there are no such problems with them. If the supplier for Triumph is the same then their quality control processes would be the same as for the KTM parts. Which means that this could be a design defect. In which case, a recall must be done.

Let's see what Triumph have to say about this. Will they release a statement or quietly replace the swing arm?
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Old 19th December 2023, 09:04   #1506
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A design defect would mean that you see this issue occurring frequently. A quality defect would mean it would be sporadic.

Let's wait for more rough usage by bike renters before casting judgement.
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Correction- It is Scrambler 400x and not Speed.
This motorcycle is just 560km old and the guy is using it in Manali. He own a motorcycle rental agency there. As per him, he was on well laid tarmac riding at 40kmph when the swing arm cracked.
This is concerning and we all need to keep a lookout. However, I would also take the statements of a bike renter from Manali, in whose pictures the bike looks like it has probably been through some serious off-roading, with a more than a pinch of salt.

Cracks like this are usually due to impact so if a huge rock was on the left of the bike during some over-excited 40bhp torque-y off-roading session by someone who didnt have to shell out their own 3L for this bike, it could get damaged this way. This was not an incident on a normal city road.

I would like to repeat that I am not absolving Triumph here. The scrambler should be able to off road (not necessarily take a rock up it's swingarm but still). Just pointing out the source side too since others have already discussed the design/brand side of it.
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

There is absolutely ZERO reason or scenario where the chassis or swingarm of a bike should break.

This is again the same soft pedaling defense we saw in the early days of the Himalayan chassis breaks.

This is a bike. Not a car. We have just 2 wheels.

If something in the middle, holding those wheels together breaks, we are DEAD.

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Speed 400 Auxiliary Lights

I am searching for Auxiliary Lights for my Speed 400. Ig the Speed 400 too uses a 12V 8Ah battery as like the Dominar 400. I have the Maddog Alpha in mind for installing on the bike (under ~15K), but they're 80W of Power. I have some questions like

Would it sustain with the current battery?
Will it hamper my electrical system?
How could it affect the battery in the long run?

Or should I opt for some other Aux Lights with lesser Wattage, maybe ScoutX, are they sufficient enough for highway usage? Does anyone have some good suggestions for a 60W Aux Lights?
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I am searching for Auxiliary Lights for my Speed 400. Ig the Speed 400 too uses a 12V 8Ah battery as like the Dominar 400. I have the Maddog Alpha in mind for installing on the bike (under ~15K), but they're 80W of Power. I have some questions like
You can use this video for reference:
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Re: Speed 400 Auxiliary Lights

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I am searching for Auxiliary Lights for my Speed 400. Ig the Speed 400 too uses a 12V 8Ah battery as like the Dominar 400. I have the Maddog Alpha in mind for installing on the bike (under ~15K), but they're 80W of Power. I have some questions like

Would it sustain with the current battery?
Will it hamper my electrical system?
How could it affect the battery in the long run?

Or should I opt for some other Aux Lights with lesser Wattage, maybe ScoutX, are they sufficient enough for highway usage? Does anyone have some good suggestions for a 60W Aux Lights?
Alternator rating of Speed 400 --> 14V, 18.5A at 4000rpm. That means 259W at 4000rpm.

Apparently it should sustain 80W Aux Light when running above 4000rpm, usual case on highway runs. But in city (low rpm due to traffic), you should avoid using Aux lights as battery may get discharged.
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Old 23rd December 2023, 12:15   #1512
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

Not sure what Triumph is planning to do in India. I have been trying to get a test drive of the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400x for more than a week from the Khivraj Triumph Electronic City branch.

But these bikes apparently need a lot of servicing . You call them or even visit them in person (and mention that you are in the first 10k bookings) they will always say that the bike is out for service.

Thanks to the lady manning the reception at Khivraj Triumph for wasting my time and making me realise that RE showroom is just a few metres ahead.

Not only did I get a test drive but an extended one and I am now starting to feel the urge to book the Himalayan 450. Also, it looks like I will be forced to cancel the bookings with Triumph. Might have just dogged a bullet with Triumph servicing so I will console myself with that.
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Not sure what Triumph is planning to do in India. I have been trying to get a test drive of the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400x for more than a week from the Khivraj Triumph Electronic City branch.

But these bikes apparently need a lot of servicing . You call them or even visit them in person (and mention that you are in the first 10k bookings) they will always say that the bike is out for service.

Thanks to the lady manning the reception at Khivraj Triumph for wasting my time and making me realise that RE showroom is just a few metres ahead.

Not only did I get a test drive but an extended one and I am now starting to feel the urge to book the Himalayan 450. Also, it looks like I will be forced to cancel the bookings with Triumph. Might have just dogged a bullet with Triumph servicing so I will console myself with that.
Hey @JithinR, my advice would be to not let the showroom experience rob you off a good product.
I do totally empathize about the situation.

Khivraj Triumph, Mahadevpura, has vehicles available for test ride. I'd urge you to ride them and decide. I understand it maybe far for you, but peace of mind ultimately for you would be, knowing that you gave it a fair chance.
While the Himalayan maybe a competitive product, you might still want to check suitability for yourself before pulling the trigger.
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Old 23rd December 2023, 17:23   #1514
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

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Not sure what Triumph is planning to do in India. I have been trying to get a test drive of the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400x for more than a week from the Khivraj Triumph Electronic City branch....
As a Speed 400 owner I can tell you test drives are easily available in Chennai and i bought it from Jai Autos and they have been very professional all along. Yesterday I gave my first service and as promised delivered it in 3 hrs. As with any brand getting a reliable ASC is important and I am sure there are others apart from Khivraj, surprisingly even in Chennai Khivraj customer service is good. Test drive the vehicle one and then make your decision.
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

Did brief test drive of Speed 400 today.
- I am 165cm, 67Kg and was able to flat foot easily on both sides.
- The bike feels very easy to lift off the side stand after swinging the leg over, and otherwise also. Its weight feels like that of other 200-250cc bikes.
- Initial torque is good and is certainly in the league of x440, CB350, while in gear acceleration is much better.
- Sitting position is very slightly forward leaning, leading to adequately firm grip on handlebar. Footpeg position is very slightly rearset, not uncomfortable at all. Should be easy to munch miles on highway.

Booked it immediately and was offered ex showroom price of Rs 2.23 L. Will get delivery by weekend.

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