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Old 7th December 2023, 19:47   #1456
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

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When was this? They recently increased the pricing to ~2600 along with a change in the OEM. If you go to the workshop now, you'll be asked to pay the increased amount for it.
This was as of last week.

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Old 8th December 2023, 13:21   #1457
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I don't think the wind that gets deflected towards the head is any stronger than what you'd get without the windscreen, but it does protect the torso and possibly makes the bike slightly more aerodynamic. On the other hand, some people also install windscreen extenders, like on the Suzuki SX 250, to deflect wind further away. Unfortunately something like that is not yet available for the Speed 400.
Thanks for the explanation. I'm still on the fence on this one but might just give it a shot.

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@davelok: You seem to have installed a mud-splash kit. Where did you get those? Is that OEM or after market?
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Can you please share pics from the rear as well and how effective it is. Please share how much it costed as well.
+1 to this. Can you please share more details and picture on the OEM mud-splash kit? Does it help in keeping the swingarm and rear section clean?
The bike just loves to get dirty. I don't want to keep spraying water on it every time to clean it quickly (fearing rusting).

I am also planning to install Maddog Scout X since I feel the headlight is absolutely useless at night, especially when there is light from oncoming vehicles.

Can someone please help with the following since I've never used aux lights in the past:
1. Would Maddog Scout X be a burden on the battery, since the 2 lights would draw 40W & DC 12V (as per specs)?
2. Would they void warranty since it's an aftermarket accessory?
3. Would they be sufficient for city and highway rides? Or should I spend a little extra and get more powerful ones assuming that the battery supports them?
I'd hate it if I were to spend 9-10k (including supporting accessories and installation)and then realize that these are in sufficient.
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Old 8th December 2023, 13:58   #1458
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5th July 2023, I was eagerly waiting for this date to arrive as soon as possible since the time Triumph Speed 400 was unveiled in London. And boom, the price was finally revealed for the folks of India, and with the eye-popping pricing, I was so sure about this motorcycle that I pre-booked it the very next day. Never in my wildest dreams did I think of a RE even once. My options were the Híness CB350, CB300R, HD X440, G310R, Jawa/Yezdi or the TS 400.

My contact was the showroom in Ahmedabad Ė Riya Triumph and it was an easy transition from contacting them about the motorcycle to the actual test ride, they did give me preference since I was in the top 10,000 customers (naturally).

16th August, I went to the showroom for a test ride. And boy oh boy, I saw the speed 400 for the very first time standing outside the showroom. There were all three paint configurations of the bike and trust me, the black colour in person was way better than any other paint scheme. It was amazing with the Gold USD Forks. I just had to provide my DL, fill up the test ride form and I was up on the bike within 5 minutes. Coming from RE Classic 350, for me it was quite an upgrade. Speed 400 ticked almost all the checkboxes.

- Was more towards performance in nature without having to scoop down low like in sports bikes. Just crazy how this bike pulls even at 6th gear. The seat position and ergonomics suit me well.
- At 5ft. 7in. this seat height was perfect for me.
- Had a wide handlebar, my shoulders are wider than the average person, which suited me perfectly.
- The exhaust sounded good for a bike of this caliber.

I was so happy with everything, the bike ride, the Triumph experience, that I forgot happiness doesnít last long.
Then came the major, major obstruction, the Lease Agreement. Ahmedabad, as a city, can literally bring you down to your knees. The documents required by the RTO, pheww, even the landlord asked me about the documents, cause even he didnít know about them. (Index Document??? Property Tax bill???). It literally took me 3 weeks to finalize the lease agreement. It was such a task.

Finally, on the 9th of September, I paid the On-Road Price of the bike. I had also been asking about the accessories for a long time. I couldíve got the bike the next day but delayed it since they received the accessories package on the 9th itself and paid for the accessories package as well. I also asked specifically if I could be allotted the bike with Apollo Tyres. Fast forward a week, it was raining cats and dogs in Ahmedabad. Delayed the delivery further to 19th. I went in the morning for the delivery and found that there were no accessories fitted on the bike and was to receive the bike as I would have a week ago and with MRF tyres. Somehow the showroom doesnít have control over who receives what brand of tyres. Comes allotted from the factory. A week wasted for nothing.

I rode my bike back home and noticed two things. The engine was giving some sort of a metal-to-metal clanking sound at above 4K RPM. This wasnít the engine vibration sound of some sort, nor did I find this type of sound in the test mule and the front brakes gave some squeaking sound, different from the sound which is produced when some particle (dust, dirt) comes in between the rotor and brake pad. Explained it to the service center guy and he told me bring the bike in for inspection. Rode it to the service center the very next day and the problems were dismissed as Engine characteristic and dust presence between the pad and rotor. Leaving the front brake issue, the engine noise at 4K and above just dulled the riding experience. It was always at the back of the mind, why is it producing such a noise. Henceforth, wasnít revving the engine past 4.5K RPM.

I completed my first 1000 kms and went for the first service after 26 days. The problems were again discussed during the service with a Triumph Technician. Recordings and stuff were taken and still the same result as the previous time. No improvement in the condition at all. Although the service was good and came with a bill of 2066/-. The bike felt freer after the first service, the throttle response was more crispier and would get to the higher side of the speedometer in no time. I had also been enquiring about the accessories and still no update over it. Absolutely nothing, not even a single accessory was in stock. I was constantly contacting the service center for the accessories and finally they responded that not all but half of the accessories would be available. This was on the 21st of November, literally after 2 months. They told me to wait for 3-4 days more for all of it. The very next weekend I called them up and they said that I could bring the bike in but still not all the accessories were available. On the 25th I got some accessories installed like the bash plate, knee pad, lower engine guards but still windscreen and tank pad werenít available. Installed a mobile mount too.

Completed 2200 kms and I was still being asked about the problems incurred by the service center. Theyíve told me to bring in the bike again and they will test out what the actual problem could be with the noises. And hopefully the remaining accessories package would be fitted too. Almost 2.5 months now with the bike and it has been quite an experience with the Speed 400.

I wonít be talking of the Likings, I guess anyone interested in the Speed 400 might already know it or researched it.

For the Dislikes,
- Engine Noise
- False Neutral. This can get irritating sometimes in the initial days.
- Front Brake Noise
- Front Brake Lever Play is quite a bit
- Rear Brake isnít that strong, must pull the Front Brake Lever too.
- The seat is such that whenever you apply the brake, the pillion just skids forward.
- MRF Steel Braces Tyres arenít that great wrt to Apollo H1s (Skids more in the wet)
- The headlight isnít that strong for night travel.
- Heating can be noticed when in traffic, would feel a lot of heat on the forelegs.
- Turning radius is much. Wider handlebars!
- The speedometer needle vibrates at higher RPMs.
- The engine suddenly shuts off for some strange reason, donít know why (has happened like 3-4 times)
- Long waiting time for accessories/parts

All the more, the Triumph Speed 400 is a hell of a fun motorcycle to ride on. Love it on city rides, love it on highway rides.
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Old 8th December 2023, 15:30   #1459
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

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This new update comes from Scrambler as I can see off road mode now after TTCon setting
This is quite something. I assume youíre referring to a new setting like the one in the image below (taken from Scrambler review thread)?

That would indeed mean itís just a software setting that they can indeed change (not surprising). But very weird that the workshop would actually do this - not sure what other implications it could have.

Heck, when I was taking my delivery, they absolutely refused to even remove the saree guard - saying we can be in trouble if it shows in any new delivery pic since itís a homologation requirement.

If this is done inadvertently - itís a serious lapse. If heís done it consciously, itís quite strange.
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This is quite something. I assume you’re referring to a new setting like the one in the image below (taken from Scrambler review thread)?

If this is done inadvertently - it’s a serious lapse. If he’s done it consciously, it’s quite strange.
This is the exact same setting that I can see on my bike. I have kept it OFF and so far I have not run into issues with ABS. When I set it to ON, TC OFF and ABS OFF lights remain lit up during the rides. I will call up and confirm with the service center if its a mistake.

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Old 8th December 2023, 16:10   #1461
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This is the exact same setting that I can see on my bike. I have kept it OFF and so far I have not run into issues with ABS. When I set it to ON, TC OFF and ABS OFF lights remain lit up during the rides. I will call up and confirm with the service center if its a mistake.
Yup - expected as much. Thanks for sharing this neoonwheels. Very useful to know. Do keep us updated on how the ASC responds.

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Old 8th December 2023, 17:29   #1462
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This is the exact same setting that I can see on my bike. I have kept it OFF and so far I have not run into issues with ABS. When I set it to ON, TC OFF and ABS OFF lights remain lit up during the rides. I will call up and confirm with the service center if its a mistake.
I have asked Riya Triumph Ahmedabad about this, and according to them, it must be a mistake. The Speed 400 was not supposed to receive any update for switchable ABS.
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Old 9th December 2023, 00:04   #1463
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- Rear Brake isn’t that strong, must pull the Front Brake Lever too.
Hi. Thanks for the detailed review and post. Just wanted to point one thing out.
Please avoid using the rear brake as your primary brake. The front brake should be your go-to 99% of the time. It is meant to put down serious stopping power (hence the huge disk) and the rear brake is meant to be used only for providing add-on support and stability at low speed.

Once you get used to this, you might realise that the brakes on the speed 400 are best-in-class. The sintered pads and the chonky disc will give you so much confidence. The problem this leads that you can easily brake very late with no issues, and folks behind you will not be able to .

You can watch this handy video to understand more about why you should use the front:
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

Posting after a fairly 2000 km on the Odometer

It has been nearly 2 months since the Speed 400 came to my garage and the overall experience has been a smooth sailing one till now.

Extremely happy with the bike and happier ever since the first service when the engine has freed up quite a lot but will gradually pull up higher speeds than 100 as the odo starts reaching 5000 as a higher run-in will help the engine stay effortless all the time.

Now that we all know about the heating being slightly worse in high-traffic scenarios, excluding that, this bike is just a huge joy to ride. Just loves sitting at 80-100 kmph between 3.75k to 5k rpm providing excellent stability and handling.

Some points to check with the larger forum:

1. The blinkers getting fogged up after washing. I believe that this a common problem affecting a lot of people and a complaint can be raised to Triumph India collectively for a resolution

2. The bike sometimes shuts-off randomly. Has happened to me 2-3 times when riding in 6th gear at about 60 kmph or so.

3. When I am moving the bike by hand, there's a very slight 'tuck-tuck' sound that comes up from the front brake. Is it something to check?

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Some points to check with the larger forum:

1. The blinkers getting fogged up after washing. I believe that this a common problem affecting a lot of people and a complaint can be raised to Triumph India collectively for a resolution
Blinkers fogging up is a common problem in the KTM indicators as well. This is an issue that has never been resolved. Let's see Triumph’s response on this.

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The question goes out to those who have taken delivery from Keerthi Bangalore. Have any of you received your RC cards? I was able to download the RC from Digilocker, but haven't yet received the card , The status on Parivahan says "DISPATCH RC Pending"
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Re: Triumph Speed 400 Review

Finally did what I wanted to do when I first saw the India launch images of the bike. Moved the number plate below the headlight.

I had gotten used to the original placement and will take me a bit to get used to this now, but overall I am very happy with it. The quality of the mount is good.

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Link for those interested: https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B0CNDCQP9H
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Finally did what I wanted to do when I first saw the India launch images of the bike. Moved the number plate below the headlight.

I had gotten used to the original placement and will take me a bit to get used to this now, but overall I am very happy with it. The quality of the mount is good.

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Link for those interested: https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B0CNDCQP9H
Did it require re-riveting of the number plate?
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Moved the number plate below the headlight.
Thanks for sharing the images. Looks much nicer below the headlight. At some point even Iíll consider this for my Scrambler.
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