[lazyrev]

Originally Posted by Senotrius

Did it require re-riveting of the number plate?

I had already got the rivets removed earlier so that I could mount the metal frame to protect the plate from bending further. It was a 5 minute job where the mechanic used a drill to break the rivets.

At the time I couldnt find anyone who would rivet the number plate back and settled for bolting it on. Realised later that it was a better decision as I could DIY the mount just like I did yesterday.

[sk_cheek13]

Originally Posted by lazyrev

I had gotten used to the original placement and will take me a bit to get used to this now, but overall I am very happy with it. The quality of the mount is good.

Thanks a lot @lazyrev. I ordered one just now seeing how good it looks need to do some dyi removing and fixing it.

Next up is a windscreen. I took the bike for a long trip last weekend and had lot of windblast after 100. At one point it was straining my neck a lot.

Any suggestions on windscreen from anyone? I see the OEM or carbon racing as the only options online now. Not sure if anyone else has any other better one's.

[Raskolnikov.R]

Hello Members,

Can you please advise on the chain lubrication schedule for the Speed 400?

I've an upcoming ride, and your input shall help me plan the breaks.

The guy who sold me the Motul chain cleaner and lubricant advised me to clean and spray every 300-350 KM. However, I plan to do longer distances and would like to know if I can clean and spray at the end of the day, having covered about 500-odd KM.

Your input is precious!

Thank you!

[Funny]

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov.R

Can you please advise on the chain lubrication schedule for the Speed 400?

There is no set interval for chain cleaning. It should always be done based on your usage, if you ride in good (non-dusty) conditions then you can clean once in 500-1000kms else you might have to clean and lube earlier like in 300-500kms. Also if you don't clean and lube your chain then nothing major will happen apart from early wear of chain-sprocket set. So don't be over concerned about clean/lube, just try to maintain the chain as as when required. If it looks too greasy or dusty or covered in muck then it's a indication to get it cleaned, if it looks normal and there's no unusual sound from chain then you can go little further before next inspection.

You have to basically find a balance between sprocket cost and lube+clean cost. Let's say your sprocket set costs 3K and you have to replace it at 15K with proper clean+lube schedule else replace it at 10K KMS with improper clean+lube schedule then the difference is the amount of clean+lube cost that you incurred for extending the life by 5K KMS, if it exceeds Rs.2K then you are better off with a longer schedule than shorter clean+lube schedule. Hope this makes sense, if it doesn't then it will make sense after riding for few thousands of KMS, till then just go follow as per the 1st para

[shyamg28]

Been hearing a lot about the size of the Speed 400 and a lot of people being divided over its size.
Here's some pics of a Speed 400 standing next to a V Strom 650.







Personally, I like it. Seems primed for fun, leisure and possibly short tours.

[NikhilosKage]

Just came back from a test ride of both the Speed and the Scrambler at Khivraj Triumph - Electronic City. A few observations from my short ride (1 km+)

Speed 400

1. Easy to ride. First time riders will feel comfortable riding this
2. The engine is refined and smooth. Couldn't take it above 5k rpm to check how the vibrations felt though.
3. Torque is plentiful across the rev range. You can ride aggressively or ride in a relaxed manner. It can do both with ease
4. Brakes are great
5. While turning the steering from left to right at 40+ kmph speeds, the front suspension felt a bit weird like it was disconnected for half a second. It might be due to the test ride bike being dropped as mentioned by the sales representative

Scrambler 400x

1. Felt better to ride. Takes a little more getting used to than the Speed 400
2. At 5'9", I could flat foot the bike at stand still. However, at low speeds I did feel a bit tentative with it. That should improve as one gets used to the motorcycle over time
3. Brakes are great here as well
4. The bike kept turning off randomly. In the 1km+ ride I did, it turned off 4-5 times
5. The test ride bike was poor. It had a bent gear lever which made it difficult to ride at low speeds

I am on the lookout for a motorcycle that can be used for office commutes as well as touring purposes. I enjoyed riding the Speed 400, however, the package that the Scrambler 400x offers is tempting.

I was quoted an on-road price of ~3 Lakhs (including the 10k discount) for the Speed 400 and ~3.5 Lakhs for the Scrambler 400x. The Speed 400 feels like better value and I might go with that. However, I would wait to hear more about the issues that have been cropping up, like the engine shutting off randomly, before putting my money on this.

Other motorcycles I am looking at are the Himalayan, the X440 and the KTM 390 Adv.

[Raskolnikov.R]

Originally Posted by Funny

There is no set interval for chain cleaning. It should always be done based on your usage, if you ride in good (non-dusty) conditions then you can clean once in 500-1000kms else you might have to clean and lube earlier like in 300-500kms.

Thank you so much, mate!

Makes a lot of sense.

With my previous motorcycle, I'd ride the vehicle to my mechanic every 500 km to adjust the chain and take a short testride to confirm everything is as it is.

With the Triumph, I'm getting back to serious motorcycling.

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

The Speed 400 feels like better value and I might go with that. However, I would wait to hear more about the issues that have been cropping up, like the engine shutting off randomly, before putting my money on this.

Mate, I've ridden my Speed for about 2,600 KM. Do I experience random engine cut-offs? Yes, I do. Does it impact my overall assessment of the motorcycle? Hardly.

I believe dropping a gear and taking a speedbreaker in the first gear often solves the problem, but not always.

It’ll be a shame if you discount the Speed 400 based on such a trivial aspect.

I do not mean to disrespect my fellow owners/riders who may find the behavior annoying.

Take a longer test ride if you want to. You’ll better appreciate what a gem the Triumph-Bajaj collaboration has produced.

[AulusGabinius]

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov.R

Do I experience random engine cut-offs? Yes, I do. Does it impact my overall assessment of the motorcycle? Hardly.

Agree with this. On a recent ride to Mahabaleshwar, I had the opportunity to try the Scrambler 400x (a friend got it, brought it along. I've ridden this specific bike in the city once as well) in the twisties of Pasarni Ghat till Mapro Garden. The engine, did in fact cut out a few times when I didn't drop gears on a turn, and once or twice in the Panchgani market. But as Raskolnikov said, I found that anything below 20 km/h and with an RPM lower than about 2000 seemed to increase chances of a stall. I think the issue is that we feel so comfortable that it's almost like a Himalayan-level pull at low rpm that we forget it isn't.

[Raskolnikov.R]

Originally Posted by AulusGabinius

But as Raskolnikov said, I found that anything below 20 km/h and with an RPM lower than about 2000 seemed to increase chances of a stall. I think the issue is that we feel so comfortable that it's almost like a Himalayan-level pull at low rpm that we forget it isn't.

You articulated the situation better than I could!

[NikhilosKage]

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov.R

Mate, I've ridden my Speed for about 2,600 KM. Do I experience random engine cut-offs? Yes, I do. Does it impact my overall assessment of the motorcycle? Hardly.

I believe dropping a gear and taking a speedbreaker in the first gear often solves the problem, but not always.

It’ll be a shame if you discount the Speed 400 based on such a trivial aspect.

I do not mean to disrespect my fellow owners/riders who may find the behavior annoying.

Take a longer test ride if you want to. You’ll better appreciate what a gem the Triumph-Bajaj collaboration has produced.

The engine cut-offs I faced were not due to riding at a higher gear. I faced them even when the rpm was above 2k or the clutch was fully engaged. Maybe it was the test ride motorcycle that had this problem. Would need to do a longer test drive to understand this better.

Though it is great to hear that it is not as frequent as my test ride made it out to be. Thank you!

[Raskolnikov.R]

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

The engine cut-offs I faced were not due to riding at a higher gear. I faced them even when the rpm was above 2k or the clutch was fully engaged. Maybe it was the test ride motorcycle that had this problem. Would need to do a longer test drive to understand this better.

Though it is great to hear that it is not as frequent as my test ride made it out to be. Thank you!

I've experienced the same a couple of times, almost always, while negotiating speedbreakers or slow corners. But once you move past that moment, the motorcycle comes alive.

Take an additional test ride, and you'll realize that there are some niggles one can live with!

Cheers!

[AulusGabinius]

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

I faced them even when the rpm was above 2k or the clutch was fully engaged.

There's also one more thing that strikes me, and that's the fueling. I think there is a BS6 requirement for extreme lean burns, and Triumph have possibly tuned their fueling to be on the leaner side than most others. Add to that the sensitive throttle, which I'm sure is twitchy when it comes to fueling, that at low rpms the super-lean burn just isn't enough to keep the engine going when the clutch is pulled and it's essentially revving down to idle. One way to test this would be maybe to fit a FuelX or a FuelX Pro and try different settings to see if the issue goes away.

[Raskolnikov.R]

Originally Posted by AulusGabinius

There's also one more thing that strikes me, and that's the fueling. I think there is a BS6 requirement for extreme lean burns, and Triumph have possibly tuned their fueling to be on the leaner side than most others. Add to that the sensitive throttle, which I'm sure is twitchy when it comes to fueling, that at low rpms the super-lean burn just isn't enough to keep the engine going when the clutch is pulled and it's essentially revving down to idle. One way to test this would be maybe to fit a FuelX or a FuelX Pro and try different settings to see if the issue goes away.

Originally, when riding the bike for the first few days, whenever I experienced the auto-cutoff, I told myself it was my brain getting used to the Ride-by-Wire throttle, besides the fuel injection.

Now, I wait to learn more for you folks.

[pv5]

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

I am on the lookout for a motorcycle that can be used for office commutes as well as touring purposes. I enjoyed riding the Speed 400, however, the package that the Scrambler 400x offers is tempting.

I use the Speed 400 exclusively for office commutes(45-50km roundtrip) & it has been great so far for that purpose. Esp. the starts you get from a traffic signal or the sudden burst of power you need to overtake a bus in a lane with ongoing metro construction or when you have to take a pothole ridden service lane is when you realise that this makes for a great commuter.

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

However, I would wait to hear more about the issues that have been cropping up, like the engine shutting off randomly, before putting my money on this.

I have faced this issue initially and it hasn't happened after a couple of weeks. My guess is that once you start riding it regularly, you will perhaps instinctively avoid whatever is causing the problem.

[chinya95]

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov.R

Mate, I've ridden my Speed for about 2,600 KM. Do I experience random engine cut-offs? Yes, I do. Does it impact my overall assessment of the motorcycle? Hardly.

I believe dropping a gear and taking a speedbreaker in the first gear often solves the problem, but not always.

The random cut-offs are sudden actually. These cut-offs are similar to how a laptop would act-up and suddenly die. Not due to a higher gear and low RPM.

I have faced this in 4th gear at ~4000 rpm riding at about 40 km/hr.