[Uchihaitachii]

Originally Posted by 400Xrider

Rode a ~100 KM at night on Saturday (my first long-ish ride on the scrambler) , the ODO crossed 500KM mark. Below are my observations,

The headlamps are almost useless, the grill makes it even worse as it scatters whatever little light that is available.

The rear break is even worse than I had previously believed. Doesn't offer confidence as I stayed below 85kmph as it is still in the break in period. Not sure how it will behave at higher speeds.

Well, I gotta say that headlight is just below the average, and it's useless at night after 60-70 km/hr speed, and remove the grill, which helps a bit for a clearer light throw.

About rear brake It used to be fine during the initial days, but they did some ABS-related update during April/July 2024, which made the rear brake less intrusive, and you can anyways check rear brake effectiveness by disabling ABS with off-road mode.

[400Xrider]

Originally Posted by Uchihaitachii

About rear brake It used to be fine during the initial days, but they did some ABS-related update during April/July 2024, which made the rear brake less intrusive, and you can anyways check rear brake effectiveness by disabling ABS with off-road mode.

Thanks for the inputs, will try after disabling the ABS.

[nasirkaka]

Originally Posted by advstreak

How is the bike's cold start performance?

It seems like the typical issue plaguing high-compression bikes. This is due to bad quality fuel in India. The solution is throttle body cleaning or using fuel injector cleaners by the likes of Liqui Moly, Arbo, etc.

Couple of weeks back, I tried the injector cleaner.
I bought a brand called MANNOL, as suggested by a BHPian friend.

Here is the link:

https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0BVMHNK82?...fed_asin_title

As recommended, I added about 120ml to a full tank of petrol, and rode the bike on the highway for close to 130kms. I finished that tank of fuel and added another tank-ful of Shell normal petrol. I have been riding the bike normally in city conditions and there is not much improvement as such. The bike still stalls. May be a tab bit less or could be placebo. But overall, the stalling is very much still present. Stalling was not so much when the bike was new and its only increased with time. I am planning to leave the bike at service center for a mini service and ask them to check plugs and update ECU with anymap which could help. I also want to get the engine oild replaced but they are insisting that they can only replace at 16k kms, which I think is too much for our conditions. My bike is done about 8.5K kms.

[surjaonwheelz]

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

I am planning to leave the bike at service center for a mini service and ask them to check plugs and update ECU with anymap which could help. I also want to get the engine oild replaced but they are insisting that they can only replace at 16k kms, which I think is too much for our conditions. My bike is done about 8.5K kms.

If they don't change the oil, then do it yourself or at any FNG. You'll need the oil filter though which I assume can be sourced from a Bajaj/KTM service center. I think a reasonable 5k to 6k kms maximum for any synthetic oil is a good time to replace it. Triumph uses Castrol Power1?

Happy riding,
surjaonwheelz

[aston_martyr]

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

Couple of weeks back, I tried the injector cleaner.
I bought a brand called MANNOL, as suggested by a BHPian friend.

But overall, the stalling is very much still present. Stalling was not so much when the bike was new and its only increased with time. I also want to get the engine oil replaced but they are insisting that they can only replace at 16k kms, which I think is too much for our conditions. My bike is done about 8.5K kms.

have you tried changing the clutch yoke? Maybe its the switch that's worn out. Just guessing here at this point.

Originally Posted by surjaonwheelz

If they don't change the oil, then do it yourself or at any FNG. You'll need the oil filter though which I assume can be sourced from a Bajaj/KTM service center. I think a reasonable 5k to 6k kms maximum for any synthetic oil is a good time to replace it. Triumph uses Castrol Power1?

I second this, changing the oil is easy enough. I have done this myself as a DIY, you could source the oil filter/O rings etc from 99rpm. If you need the part numbers i have that documented on my ownership thread.
I have used fuchs silkolene, comes in 2L and 1 L packs as well for convenience.

[nasirkaka]

Originally Posted by surjaonwheelz

Triumph uses Castrol Power1?

Not sure on the oil they use. I am not too worried about the oil change, but about the stalling issue. Even at 8k+kms the bike runs pretty smooth. But its the frequent stalling issue thats bothering me.

Originally Posted by aston_martyr

have you tried changing the clutch yoke? Maybe its the switch that's worn out. Just guessing here at this point.

I second this, changing the oil is easy enough. I have done this myself as a DIY, you could source the oil filter/O rings etc from 99rpm. If you need the part numbers i have that documented on my ownership thread.
I have used fuchs silkolene, comes in 2L and 1 L packs as well for convenience.

The clutch action, play etc all seems fine. I did not understand which switch you are referring to at clutch yoke.
I have done DIY oil change as well on other bikes, but prefer to get it done at some trusted garage these days mainly to avoid hassle and mess. Hows silkolene?
To begin with, will leave the bike at service center and ask them to have a look at the stalling issue. Update ECU etc if required. And if they do not change the oil, will get it changed at a freinds garage.

[aston_martyr]

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

Not sure on the oil they use. I am not too worried about the oil change, but about the stalling issue. Even at 8k+kms the bike runs pretty smooth. But its the frequent stalling issue thats bothering me.

HP Pro lube is what they use at the service center.

The clutch action, play etc all seems fine. I did not understand which switch you are referring to at clutch yoke.
I have done DIY oil change as well on other bikes, but prefer to get it done at some trusted garage these days mainly to avoid hassle and mess. Hows silkolene?
To begin with, will leave the bike at service center and ask them to have a look at the stalling issue. Update ECU etc if required. And if they do not change the oil, will get it changed at a freinds garage.

Silkolene is good, provides better shifts imo. Ran that for 6k kms before the 2nd service.
The clutch switch is right below the yoke. There is a chance that this plastic actuator mechanism might be worn out and is causing issues? Just have a check yourself not so difficult to remove em.

[400Xrider]

Rode about 200 kms yesterday and finished the first service. Few observations,
Service The SC guys did an excellent job, they took care of every aspect. From washing twice, before and after oil change, detailing the bike and filling the tyres. Everything was covered, I have never seen such meticulous service done to any other vehicle we own in our family. The SC attitude could have been bad as this is the only showroom in my city (Salem, TN).

Coming to the bike, turning off the rear ABS did not have much impact on the rear brakes.
The OE wind screen is actually helpful, I didn't realise that until I raised my head slightly higher.
While the upshifts are smooth the downshifts can be a bit better, I feel the downshifts on my clutch lever for some reason, even if it is fully pressed.
Stalls happen rarely and I have learnt to give a little throttle before realising the clutch to counter it and it works fine.
I am yet to learn that I do not have to downshift often as I was doing in other bikes.

Also, dogs don't seem to love the sound of the bike!

[400Xrider]

White smoke while starting, need your inputs!

Hi fellow scrambler 400X owners, need your inputs. I just saw a little white smoke when I started the bike. It was just momentary and did not reoccur when I stopped and started the engine. The bike was ridden by a family member about 30-45 earlier and did not notice any issues.

Is this normal? or did the SC mess something up when service the bike on Saturday like filling too much coolant/oil? I'm yet to check the levels as I have left the bike to cool off.
Could it be some kind of debris in the exhaust that got burnt on start up? the bike was parked under a mango tree which is shedding flowers.

I'm panicking already as the bike is just over a month old and has about 900 Kms in the ODO.

[nasirkaka]

Originally Posted by 400Xrider

[h3]
I'm panicking already as the bike is just over a month old and has about 900 Kms in the ODO.

If the white smoke was just once and for a short time during the cold start, I dont think there is much to worry. It could be just the condensation evaporating. If the white smoke is regularly seen means trouble like coolant mixing with oil, blown head gasket, oil leaking to combustion chamber etc. Just observe for a few days as I feel its a new bike and most likely should be fine.

[akkitheaviator]

Got my 2nd service done for my scrambler 400x and my bike stalls for almost 4-5 times in a day. It was better before that. Anyone else noticing this? I am also tired of following up with Triumph Electronic City, Bangalore. They first scratched my windshield and now they don’t even bother to respond to my calls

[rishavch2104]

Originally Posted by akkitheaviator

Got my 2nd service done for my scrambler 400x and my bike stalls for almost 4-5 times in a day. It was better before that. Anyone else noticing this? I am also tired of following up with Triumph Electronic City, Bangalore. They first scratched my windshield and now they don’t even bother to respond to my calls

Service center in my town(siliguri) changed my cannister out of warranty claiming that will fix the issue. But still present, although reduced a lot. Bike is still in service center.

[davelok]

Originally Posted by akkitheaviator

Got my 2nd service done for my scrambler 400x and my bike stalls for almost 4-5 times in a day. It was better before that.

Try changing the fuel. I'm using XP95 now and the stalling has reduced significantly. (but it stalled twice at traffic signals last evening).

Originally Posted by rishavch2104

Service center in my town(siliguri) changed my cannister out of warranty claiming that will fix the issue. But still present, although reduced a lot. Bike is still in service center.

Can you please explain a bit more?

[akkitheaviator]

Originally Posted by davelok

Try changing the fuel. I'm using XP95 now and the stalling has reduced significantly. (but it stalled twice at traffic signals last evening).



Can you please explain a bit more?

I use regular Shell petrol. I think I am just wasting money on good fuel for this bike.

Once, I turned off my bike at a traffic signal and when the signal turned green, the bike refused to start! I then turned off and on the key before the engine finally cranked. What a day it was!

One thing is for sure now - my next bike will not be from Triumph or Bajaj

[rishavch2104]

Originally Posted by davelok

Can you please explain a bit more?

According to the service center guys, triumph's SOP is to change the cannister in case it's dirty and that should fix the stalling. Before changing it my bike was stalling at least 4-4 times in 2kms in low gears, that dropped to 1-2 times but not fixed completely.

I also found a way to replicate the stalling on purpose. Keep the bike in 3rd gear at around 50kmph, and hold the clutch for a few seconds. Bike should stall as soon as speed comes around 40. Had to figure this out since when I took the bike to sc for the second time, it didn't stall once in 10kms that I rode with the technician sitting behind . Its pretty weird my bike is 8 months old with 6k km on the odo. Never faced stalling issues until a few weeks ago.