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Old 31st January 2024, 12:56   #166
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

To all the Himalayan 450 owners, I have a few questions:

* Did you find the handlebar position low for standing and riding? - NO
* Anyone tried installing a tall (2") handlebar riser? If yes, are the stock cable length sufficient for handle bar risers? - tried but have to replace cables, so aborted.
* What is the diameter of the handlebar, where it gets clamped? - Not sure
* Does the seat slope slowly pushes the rider in front over time? Or is neutral like old Himalayan? - No its just fine.
* Has anyone tried PPF to cover the tank? Is it possible to neatly cover the organic shaped tank? - Its pricey at 10 Grand, so stayed away. Youtube has lot of videos on the finishing
* Has anyone converted the wheels to tubeless with Way2Speed, or similar kits? - My brother has procured the OUTEX in the US (supplied from Japan) for me, with these tyre specs. I will get my hands on it in June.
* Any news/ speculations on the rally version with tubeless spokes availability? I’m guessing 2024 diwali time.
* List of niggles / teething issues if any? I have read coneset related and some engine noise related. - None at all.

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Old 31st January 2024, 13:22   #167
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* What is the diameter of the handlebar, where it gets clamped? - found the dia to be a bit less esp with riding gloves, will use the leather tape kit to increase it a bit
What I meant to ask was the diameter of the handlebar metal tube as different risers are meant for different diameter of handlebar risers. I already have some risers for 22mm diameter handlebar, so wanted to check if they would fit, just in case.

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* Has anyone converted the wheels to tubeless with Way2Speed, or similar kits? - My brother has procured the OUTEX in the US (supplied from Japan) for me, with these tyre specs. I will get my hands on it in June
Nice! I have converted my interceptor to tubeless with Way2Speed kit and its been holding for couple of years. But yes, if we have to true the wheel were spokes are required to be rotated to adjust tension, the conversion may fail. Not sure how Outex behaves to wheel truing requirement.

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Anyone tried installing a tall (2") handlebar riser? if yes, are the stock cable length sufficient for handle bar risers? - tried but have to replace cables, so aborted
Thats a bummer!! On my short test ride, I found the standing and riding posture on the Himalayan 450 inadequate for my usage. Guess I have spoilt myself with extra relaxed ergonomic mods on other bikes but would like to continue with the same. Would be good to know what cables would require changes, so is there a way to re-route them to get some added slack? Good thing is RBW, so the throttle cables are replaced with wires.

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* Any news/ speculations on the rally version with tubeless spokes availability? Im guessing 2024 diwali time
Thats far. So much time for something already there and being used on export variants. All it needs is approval for use in India. Going by history of punctures, some successful and some failed tubeless conversion jugaads, was hoping to avoid the headache and with spoke tubeless wheels, even at a reasonable premium price.

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Old 31st January 2024, 15:09   #168
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Thats far. So much time for something already there and being used on export variants. All it needs is approval for use in India. Going by history of punctures, some successful and some failed tubeless conversion jugaads, was hoping to avoid the headache and with spoke tubeless wheels, even at a reasonable premium price.
This is the reason why I waited till now and not booked Himalayan yet, if they dilly-dally this then by that time KTMs lc4c 399 adv or hero Xpulse upgrades may start poking at my head. Last year I almost made up my mind for KTM 390 Adv but still couldn't commit as the new engines were out, and then Himalayan 450 is doing this hard to get game.

I am sitting on the wall like Humpty Dumpty
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

As luck would have it, I have received the OUTEX for this wheel size, from OUTEX Japan.
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This is the reason why I waited till now and not booked Himalayan yet, if they dilly-dally this then by that time KTMs lc4c 399 adv or hero Xpulse upgrades may start poking at my head. Last year I almost made up my mind for KTM 390 Adv but still couldn't commit as the new engines were out, and then Himalayan 450 is doing this hard to get game.
Over time, I have stopped looking at bikes on the horizon. There will always be something better coming in near future, and something better than that in the future. In all this waiting game, we only lose time.

But as they showed the Himalayan 450 with tubeless spokes, and I feel the need to have a tubeless setting on bikes, I wanted to wait for it. Am also eyeing the recently announced NX500, so its mostly choosing between these two.

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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

I have been riding REH411 for last few years. I've got xpulse 200 4v Pro last Oct, and I have hardly touched my REH11 since. I've booked New REH last Dec and been waiting for the delivery (although I was promised a delivery within a week), I'm in no rush for now and wasn't following up. My son has taken a test ride and he'd primarily be riding New REH is the deal as of now.

I've had a chance of riding New REH during our ride back from Vagamon to Bangalore last weekend. Everyone in the group riding a rented New REH for a while during the ride, I only took it from Salem on our return, it felt really good on the highway, could realize the buzz/vibes folks talking about prior to hitting 5k rpm. Once I got some open roads, pushed it beyond 5k rpms and I was surprised with so much of vibrations on handlebars and foot pegs. This is a new motorcycle, run about only 1500kms by now.

I felt vibrations to be too much between 5k-6k rpms, more than the REH411, almost reminded me my RE Machismo 500. Now, this could be due to the current motorcycle that I'm riding for the past 4 months, that is xPulse 200 and relatively very less vibrations from it; am I comparing it with my current riding experience! However, I felt it to be too much since that's the rev range we'll be cruising most during the long rides.

Do the current owners found it to be subsiding post first service or after clocking more than couple thousand kms or adding bushes and better handle grip is a way to workaround now?
On a lighter note, riding at 5K+ rpms, literally reminded me the scene from the movie gangs of Wasseypur that goes like 'E ka bawasir bana diye ho..'

I've requested for cancellation of the booking for now. However, I'd love to see how this can be fixed or if RE is doing something in the upcoming batches to address this, make it more refined!

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Do the current owners found it to be subsiding post first service or after clocking more than couple thousand kms or adding bushes and better handle grip is a way to workaround now?
I just completed 1000 kms on my Himalayan with the first service done. I have noticed high vibrations starting to hit at 4.7k and settle down at 5.5-5.7k. This translates to 95-110 kmph on the 6th gear. It does feel significantly vibey when compared to the rest of the rev band. I did get used it to quickly and altered my riding style accordingly.

I use the Route95 Air Comfort grips and they definitely help here.
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I've had a chance of riding New REH during our ride back from Vagamon to Bangalore last weekend. Everyone in the group riding a rented New REH for a while during the ride, I only took it from Salem on our return, it felt really good on the highway, could realize the buzz/vibes folks talking about prior to hitting 5k rpm. Once I got some open roads, pushed it beyond 5k rpms and I was surprised with so much of vibrations on handlebars and foot pegs. This is a new motorcycle, run about only 1500kms by now.
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I wish I could get a rental like this in Chennai to understand what this vibration feels like. I really liked this bike in appearance and couple of very small test ride. I dont see option here to get rental bike for a day to experience different conditions. I also have some interest in Triumph Scrambler 400x, but the distance to showroom and service center is almost double compared RE. Also with introductory price offer, REH450 seems to better package compared to 400x. I could not get experience ride for 400x either.
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Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review

Has anyone been brave enough yet to try a change of oil to Motul/LiquiMoly ? KTM/Dominar etc users (basically other large singles) have given pretty good feedback when it comes to improvement in ride quality using these brands.
I have used them in past on previous motorbikes and felt the difference too, although the mess with warranty is what bothers me to try it on Himalayan as its a new product.
But as I see a lot of people that have "I void the warranty on Day 1" written all over their mod ideas, I am looking forward to some comments in this regards.
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I have used them in past on previous motorbikes and felt the difference too, although the mess with warranty is what bothers me to try it on Himalayan as its a new product. .
Warranty shouldn't be an issue as long as the SVC doesn't know about it. It hardly is discernible when the techs drain the oil the next time as its all black anyway. Quite frankly its very stupid to void the warranty because one is using a different brand's oil, as long as it meets the necessary technical requirements.
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Do the current owners found it to be subsiding post first service or after clocking more than couple thousand kms or adding bushes and better handle grip is a way to workaround now?
On a lighter note, riding at 5K+ rpms, literally reminded me the scene from the movie gangs of Wasseypur that goes like 'E ka bawasir bana diye ho..'
You can see him mentioning the same thing about 3-4 minutes into the video here.
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You can see him mentioning the same thing about 3-4 minutes into the video here.
https://Youtu.be/na6FERTxiGU?si=zgGLKpiL74l2zBYj
Solution for riders seems to be to ride it really slow or really fast. As long as you're not in the 90-120 zone, you're golden.

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You're bang on right. 90 seems to be the sweet spot, and I'm in no hurry
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Solution for riders seems to be to ride it really slow or really fast. As long as you're not in the 90-120 zone, you're golden.
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You're bang on right. 90 seems to be the sweet spot, and I'm in no hurry
Brilliant engineering by RE, to keep the rider either just behind or just in fron of the bulk of the traffic block on the highways. This was true of our 20+ year old 22 bhp 500s as well. As compensation, RE would afford us wildly optimistic Pricol speedometers, that would swing enthusiastically between 120 and 140, depending on road undulations.

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You're bang on right. 90 seems to be the sweet spot, and I'm in no hurry
You're right, but then I'm already doing so with my REH411 (and xpulse) as well, just fine. It has that great tractor-ability minus the top speed and power to overtake at 110kmph, which is where the New REH is great.

Also, the suspension setup is really good, standup ergo was very good too. I was saddling easily riding thoppur ghats and it was really good, took some backcountry route in the last stretch to get back and suspension found to be really comfortable on bad stretches. Although the stability is very good with the long wheelbase, I found at times it lacked grip on the road/bad roads, not sure if it's the tire selection or I wasn't in the right powerband leading to such situation.
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