[sanrjay]

Hey @bhansali_hardik, Dealership is Abhyuday motors in Mysuru. I live there now. Ordered on the 3rd Oct itself.
I was surprised that it came so early, had received a message on the 4th Nov stating about a delay and that it will be delivered by the 15th Dec. Some one up there likes me :-)

[IamAsHter]

Originally Posted by rookieraj

@sanrjay, What make are these rims - Akront or Jinfei?

The wheels are made by Akront.
Got mine day before yesterday.

Originally Posted by sanrjay

Hey @bhansali_hardik, Dealership is Abhyuday motors in Mysuru. I live there now. Ordered on the 3rd Oct itself.
I was surprised that it came so early, had received a message on the 4th Nov stating about a delay and that it will be delivered by the 15th Dec. Some one up there likes me :-)

Even I ordered the moment these wheels came live in the GMA page.

However, it seems that the order was packaged on 26th October and followed by that these took another 7 odd days to reach my town in southern part of Assam.

[pepega]

Originally Posted by mrmansingh

Hey need your opinion on this. I'm also riding a CBR 250R (shifted on this from Bullet 350 just last year after 8 years). And my eyes are on the Himalayan 450 since last year, only released in Nepal this year. But the Triumph Scrambler 400 is also launched recently now and as I know it's not that close a comparison I'm stuck here. Himalayan costs NPR 10 lacs here whereas the Triumph is 6.89 lacs. Himalayan feels way more advanced and better built but Triumph seems way lighter and easier on the pocket for road taxes as well (only 12k per year compared to 450's 25k per year). Also I'm more inclined on a light option since it'll majorly be my daily commuter and the occasional long tourer. However with Nepal's extreme road conditions I feel like the Himalayan would be the better choice in the city as well as the basic touring, off-roading options. Please advise me on my dilemma as I'm unsure of what to do.

You will 100% be better off with the Triumph Scrambler 400X. It will be a lot better for Kathmandu city traffic and it will do 90% of a what a Himalayan will do off-road.

The Himalayan with its 17 liter fuel tank is designed for highway touring, the kind of which isn't really possible in Nepal. The bulky Himalayan makes up for its bulk by giving you a ton of freedom on a road trip. The Scrambler being lighter and nimble might be better off-road as well, where the bulky Himalayan will require a lot more skill to navigate.

The price you're getting is a lot better with the Scrambler as well. In my state, the prices are as follows:
Scrambler 400X: 327,000 (523,200 NPR)
Himalayan: 345,000 (552,000 NPR)

You will paying a horrible premium on the Himalayan for no reason. Plus, the 25k/yr road tax is not worth it either.

Go with the Scrambler

[mrmansingh]

Originally Posted by pepega

You will 100% be better off with the Triumph Scrambler 400X. It will be a lot better for Kathmandu city traffic and it will do 90% of a what a Himalayan will do off-road.

The Himalayan with its 17 liter fuel tank is designed for highway touring, the kind of which isn't really possible in Nepal. The bulky Himalayan makes up for its bulk by giving you a ton of freedom on a road trip. The Scrambler being lighter and nimble might be better off-road as well, where the bulky Himalayan will require a lot more skill to navigate.

The price you're getting is a lot better with the Scrambler as well. In my state, the prices are as follows:
Scrambler 400X: 327,000 (523,200 NPR)
Himalayan: 345,000 (552,000 NPR)

You will paying a horrible premium on the Himalayan for no reason. Plus, the 25k/yr road tax is not worth it either.

Go with the Scrambler

Great insights, I'm seriously considering the Triumph now. Only thing that's made me a bit skeptical is that it's a new entrant in Nepal, not just the models but Triumph as a brand. I don't know the long term expenses that'll be incurred as we go. Thank you for your input though!

[trailsndirt]

Thinking about changing the rims on my Himalayan 450 once the current tires are done. Thus far the CEAT rubber has been pretty good in tarmac and hard-packed dirt.
It does struggle a bit on sandy or wet mud, but nothing alarmingly bad. The bike has done nearly 5K on the tarmac and some trail riding, and the rubber has been wearing quite well.

What other tires are folks changing to?
I've seen Riese TrailR being discussed, but those seem to have issues in the wet tarmac.
The CEATs have handled perfectly on tarmac - wet or dry thus far but always open to other options.
Maxis also has been doing the rounds but nothing stands out in the positives or negatives.

[sanrjay]

Originally Posted by rookieraj

@sanrjay, What make are these rims - Akront or Jinfei?

Apologies for the delay, it is Akront.

[rich_heart]

Came to know from friends that they charge approx 1400/- for fixing the new tubeless wheels.

[sanrjay]

Originally Posted by rich_heart

Came to know from friends that they charge approx 1400/- for fixing the new tubeless wheels.

I was asked to pay Rs. 500/- for all the manual work.

Now, I have been asked to do a balancing of the wheels from my dealer contact as they have received instructions from RE about it.

[n_aditya]

Originally Posted by tech_rider

Thanks, I am also thinking about touring seats. They sell rider and pillion seats seperate. But when I was checking out accessories order page, I found that both has to be bought together. I don't understand why they are keeping it seperate then. And it costs around 8200₹.

You don't need to buy both seats. You can buy only the rider seat. Couple of my friends bought only the rider seat.

You can buy this from any RE dealership. Just call a dealership close to you and ask them if they have one in stock.

Originally Posted by tech_rider

In a Youtube shorts by bigbearcustoms, I found he has got a rally seat which he says is good for long rides and it is around 4.5k ₹. I have not found it in website though. This needs to be checked in showroom.

The rally seat increases the seat height quite a bit. For shorter riders, this can be an issue.

[Turbojc]

Barely a month into ownership, and I already got a puncture . I found this fairly large bolt embedded firmly into my rear tyre this morning. Funnily enough, it came with a washer and a rubber grommet, so it sort of sealed the hole and kept the air from leaking.



Since I didn’t have the rubber plugs handy, I got it fixed at a tyre shop near my place. The tubeless spoke rims made the repair a breeze, and they certainly piqued the curiosity of the folks at the shop. At first when they saw my bike, they told me they don’t work on spoke wheel punctures, but when I told them it was tubeless, they became inquisitive and started checking it out in detail.

The culprit:



I got it plugged in less than 10 minutes. The person who fixed it shared how this was such a relief compared to the hassle of fixing a tube tyre puncture on regular spoke wheels, which could take hours sometimes.





I do have a question though - given the size of the bolt, do you think the plug will hold, or should I opt for a more permanent solution?

[Funny]

Originally Posted by Turbojc

I do have a question though - given the size of the bolt, do you think the plug will hold, or should I opt for a more permanent solution?

Since you have already fixed it with regular plug, you can continue riding with it unless you notice any air leak or frequent pressure drop in which case you can go to a reputed tyre shop and get the mushroom puncture plug applied which will cost you upwards of 300rs but will be a more robust fix intended for tubeless punctures.

[aviator1101]

Ownership Update : Bagheera crosses 15000 kms

Present day odo reading : 15300 kms (post completion of Mechuka ride)


Got home Bagheera on 23 December 2023 and it's been a little less than 11 months that she's crossed the 15k milestone.

In the last 11 months, have taken her to various destinations covering almost the entire expanse of Incredible North East and one long ride from Tezpur to Lahaul-Spiti and back.

I shall share a glimpse of the trips that we have done together.


Mahamritunjay Temple, Naugaon, Assam (December 2023)


Shillong, Meghalaya (December 2023)


Bhairabkunda, Bhutan (Feb 2024)


Kibithu, Arunachal Pradesh (March 2024)


Kaho, Arunachal Pradesh (March 2024)

Few of the highest(s) that we scaled during the Spiti Trip.


Hikkim, World's Highest Post Office, Lahaul-Spiti, Himachal Pradesh (September 2024)


Komic, world's Highest Village connected by motorable bridge, Lahaul-Spiti, Himachal Pradesh (September 2024)


Chicham, World's Highest Suspension Bridge, Lahaul-Spiti, Himachal Pradesh (September 2024)


Mechuka, Arunachal Pradesh (November 2024)

Having done these trips, and accumulated over 15000 kms with Bagheera, I shall be sharing few pros and cons that I could observe with my little experience. Few heads would figure in both pros and cons for the way they appear to me :-

The Pros

General
The bike is a mile muncher. Highway behaviour is something which anybody would fall in love with. The engine with its strong mid and top range is something that helps you keep up with bikes of higher categories with ease. (Experienced it myself during Kibithu trip with a GS 850 and during Spiti trip with a Tiger 800)

Engine
The engine is a gem. Though it lacks that low end grunt of the 411, which one misses after slowing down or stopping on steep inclines, but the strong mid range rescues you every time.
I, for one, could not make out that famous lag in throttle input till date.

Suspension
One of the best things that RE has put in the bike. From potholes to speed breakers to gravel to boulders to off roads to no roads, it swallows everything with utmost ease.

Ergonomics
One of the biggest plus points of the bike. Everything seems to be spot on. Rider fatigue is minimal. You are not unnecessarily engaged with or focussing on anything to make it work. The rider's triangle is perfect for me and saddling is easy.

Seat
I'm using the stock seat.
I am 176 cms tall and the lowest stock seat height of 825 mm is perfect for me.
Seat comfort is good and I've done almost 800+ kms in a day without any discernible discomfort.

Build quality
Though some people would refute this claim, the build and parts quality of this bike is undeniably in another league as compared to the OG Himalayan. Simply incomparable. This is a class apart.

Handling
Despite being a top heavy bike and overall around 196 kgs, it handles like a charm both in traffic as well as in rough terrain.

Mileage
It returns a mileage of 30-32 if ridden in a sane manner. The sweet spot for me is 85-90 wherein it returns around 32 kmpl which is impressive for a 452cc bike.

The Cons

Engine
There is a distinct clatter which develops at times, but again subsides on it's own. As long as there is no change in the performance, I didn't bother much and same was the suggestion by RE. However, say what RE may, I would not recommend riding with the Liquid Gun for more than 6000 kms. At every oil change that I've done at 5000-5500 kms interval, I felt it surely isn't meant to last 10000 kms.

No Cruise Control
This is something that RE should have included in the bike. Since it's ride by wire, hope some day they do include it and provide an option to existing owners to upgrade.

Side Stand
The side stand is something that needs to be worked upon by RE. The bike tilts more than required to one side. With luggage loaded and uneven surface, it doesn't inspire confidence to mount after getting onto the left peg. Hope someone at RE is listening and does some amendment in the next iteration.

Headlight
Stock headlight is bad to say the least. It just illuminates itself. For anything beyond, you need aux lights.

Vibrations
They do exist, mild tingling at the handlebar, footpegs and tank at various rpms. But nothing concerning in the range of 3000-5000 where you will be operating most of the time.

Tail Light Indicator Combo
I personally feel, its more of a gimmick. In foggy conditions, the rider behind is unable to make out the brake light if the indicators are on. Got this feedback from a co-rider in the Kibithu trip and myself felt so while riding with another 450 in Spiti.

Centre Stand Stop
The centre stand stop is fitted on the resonator box. The clanking noise makes me uncomfortable every time the stand goes up and hits the box. Wish RE could find a better spot.

Handlebar Mount
It gave way 3 times after warranty replacement in 15000 kms. The rubber bushes need stringent quality control.

Switchgear
The switchgear, especially the high beam switch is oddly placed for which u need to shift your grip. Also, the joystick has a mind of it's own and can refuse to stop working at will.

Weight Distribution
Can't exactly say it's a negative point, but the bike is definitely top heavy. One feels it if you let it tilt more than required at stand still. I have dropped it twice while stationary, it takes a lot of effort to get it back on it's feet, but both times I managed it without any damage. But again, on the move, it displays it's feline agility.

Navigation
The navigation feature with the map is more of a gimmick. Enough has been discussed about it on the forum : to summarize, it's not practical, drains your battery like anything. Hope in later updates, RE does something about the loft lock voodoo. As of now, I prefer following Google Aunty's instructions through my Bluarmor C-30 anyday.

Overall, despite all the pluses and minuses, it still strikes a chord albeit with all the vibes that it carries in it's heart.

At it's price, and the features it comes with (now that tubeless spokes are also available), and REs widespread network of service centres, in my opinion it's a great buy.


Happy Miles and Memories

[100Kmphormore]

Lovely to see someone enjoying the 450 as it should be. Regarding the engine, have you gotten any cam shaft warranty replacements done due to the tappet sound from the engine(the fich fich amidst the engine note)? RE service experience is why I am not considering this as I had a handful to deal with on my 411.

[MileCruncher]

Originally Posted by aviator1101

[h3]Ownership Update : Bagheera crosses 15000 kms

Himi looks good and 15K in less than a year is like full paisa vasool! Congrats on taking it places.

BTW how did it fair with GS850 and Tiger 800 on highway and mountain runs?

Attachment 2685432

Originally Posted by aviator1101

Chicham, World's Highest Suspension Bridge, Lahaul-Spiti, Himachal Pradesh (September 2024)

Needed some inputs on how to attach an action cam on the helmet

[rahulba]

Guys - I am considering H450 after riding CBR 250R for close to 9 years. The bike will soon be completing its 14th year (first 5 years it was owned by another BHPian) and still runs butter smooth. Unfortunately, I have to sell it off due to strict 15-year rule in Delhi NCR otherwise would have happily got it extended by another 5 years and kept it with me.

I recently did a Delhi Jaipur Delhi ride over 2 days with my better half on CBR 250R and she was mostly comfortable and didn't experience much vibrations on pillion set. We were mostly in 90-100 kmph range and occasionally at 120-130 kmph. Now when we tested H450, she could easily feel the vibrations at the speed of 70-80 in 4th gear. So therefore, I am looking at inputs from your end on the vibration part and comfort for pillion rider. If anyone of you travelled long distance with pillion then can you please share your experience and also recommend if changing the seats would be needed or not.