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Old 12th June 2025, 00:02   #16
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Re: 2025 KTM 390 Enduro R Review

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Being an off-road motorcycle, the 390 Enduro R has a slim profile with minimal design elements.
If you check below the footpeg there is a rod connecting both footpegs. Apparently this reduces vibration.
If possible can you confirm same. Link of the source video from Autocar:

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Old 15th June 2025, 11:37   #17
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Re: 2025 KTM 390 Enduro R Review

Got a chance to test ride enduro 390 in Bangalore on a rainy day. Very short test ride, but I had an interesting experience.
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Me : I am not an offroader, always liked the idea of a dual sport bike , but never had one.

Route : It rained for 15 minutes and then stopped. The dealer asked to take the bike around the main road as that's their usual route, but since I knew the area well, i asked if I could take it on the inner road that runs parallel to the main road and is in a very bad condition. For context, I took the same road on my tb350 and I take that route regularly on my wife's aerox. It's a bad road, potholes, road work, no roads, un-natural spead breakers, water slides, rogue riders on dio, slush- it has it all and some surprises. One thing it doesn't usually have is traffic because of all the reasons above.

Bike : bike had been used for offroading events in some dirt park the week before, so there were somethings that were not factory set :
- the suspension was set slightly stiffer, it did not sag when I sat on it and I could feel the road more than I expected. I sat on adv390 s that was on display and it did sag a bit more than this enduro. I did not play around with the suspension.
- someone had messed with the footrests : they were lower than the display bike. My feet did not naturally reach break lever and gear lever, I had to lift my feet quite a bit to reach the levers and the rear break lever was particularly quite high.
- the bike was hot when I reached showroom, it was used all day and had done about 1500 kms and I guess was due for a service because the chain was making noise.
- offroad mode was set with offroad tc.
- I think the handle bar moved a bit backward. Dealer did not know how to check.

Observation :
the bike is awesome
- Seat height is good (I am 5' 11"), Its easy to climb and I could easily flat foot.
- the suspension does a good job, even on slightly stiffer setting, it could absorb all the potholes and speed bumps well. I did not need to slow down for anything.
- at low end there is not much torque, in 1st gear you won't notice anything but on higher gears you will notice that low end torque is absent, the bike stalls if you try to pull away from single digit speeds in 2nd or 3rd gear. Coming from an ice enfield, I was expecting this but thought the crawl function would take care of it.
- on bad roads, the bike gives a lot more confidence to power through; when you see slush, a puddle or a pot hole, something tells you to go hard and see what happens and you do that effortlessly, smiling your way through it.
- the ergonomics are good, not very committed. You lean in to the handle bar slightly, giving an attacking stance. The legs reach the pegs naturally. The foot levers for break and gear were modified by someone so it was difficult to reach for me and had to lift my feet quite a bit or scoot back on the seat to reach comfortably; but the display bike had stock settings and it was perfect.
- seat is good, not hard and not too soft. Enough space and slim enough to move around easily. I don't consider the rear seat as a pillion seat, think of it as extra room for the rider that can be used for pillion if really needed.
- horn is fine, head light looks dull, switches are good. One things though, the indicator switch and the instrument controls can be confusing, I accidentally changed menus when trying to put on indicators.
- the visibility is awesome ! You don't see any part if the bike when you are on it. You just see the surroundings, mirror and the orange beak pointing you ahead. In contrast, the adv390 hides almost 60% of the surroundings which I did not really like.
- the bike is easy to handle, doesn't feel any heavy, switching lanes , doing quick overtakes, squeezing in tight spaces - all feels easy.
- there is slightly buzz, just above the low end I could feel some buzz on the handle bars but goes away when you rev further where you realise the bike is really happy .
- the instrument cluster is awesome. It misses some information like the fuel gauge , but if you are low on fuel, it keeps flashing about it in bright yellow across the entire screen- was very annoying to clear that - I guess this will be annoying enough to go and refuel quickly ; solved the problem I guess.
- the bike is easy to move around, stand beside it and you will feel it's just a taller street bike. Easy to push around, easy to turn manually, weight shoes up when toh try pushing up a slope.

the bike is not practical, but it is fun.

Extra :
- i casually told the dealer that I would remove the grab rails, he showed me an adv390 s parked outside and it had scuffs on the grab rails, the engine guard, the levers and the hand guard. Apparently someone took the bike for a long test ride and met with an accident at slightly higher speed. The bike fell hard, breaking a leg bone. But the bike itself is fine, just a bent engine guard, and some scuffs all around. None of the panels were even scratched. The dealer said, the bike survived and the rider was safer because of the guards and grab rails which took all the hit.
- the international model is expected next year as per the dealer, but there is some news about an adv390 x+ variant - basically all the features of x variant plus some extra electronics and features from the s variant, probably cruise control but no extra hardware like suspension or spoke wheels. He said it could be 10-20k more expensive than the x variant :: that would be good, can make it a perfect touring machine.
- the standard warranty is 5 years, extendable upto 10 years (5 extra years ) for 2.5k approx.

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Old 25th June 2025, 09:43   #18
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Re: 2025 KTM 390 Enduro R Review

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So from my understanding the crash guards, saree guard and the grab rails alone could shave off 4-5kilos. That would still leave unaccounted 4kilos. So, your question is still open after all.
https://www.trf.org.uk/stories/2025-...-model-reveal/
It seems that the pillion footrest assembly is also different?

I would probably just remove all of the above accessories except for the crash guard.
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Re: 2025 KTM 390 Enduro R Review

Question: Is there a difference in the throttle map between the street mode and the off-road mode?

If yes than is it possible to turn on all the rider aids in off-road. Essentially just keep the agressive throttle map on while keeping all the rider aids on?
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Re: 2025 KTM 390 Enduro R Review

I'm currently riding Enduro bikes out here in South Africa. Got into this sport a few years back and haven’t looked back since.

Can someone please clarify the difference between Enduro bikes sold in India and the rest of the world. Enduros in India, like the one from KTM in this post, have brake lights, indicators, grills and so many other forms of attachments. It looks more like an on-off road bike instead of an Enduro / Motocross.

Compared to the bikes we have on this side, which in my group include WR250s, KTM300s 2-stroke, KTM350s 2-stroke, etc.; None of these have brake lights, indicators and all this extra stuff. In fact, they are not even street legal. We always have to trailer them out to remote spots, close to a trail and ride out from there.

Considering the kinda places we go to and the tricks we have to pull to get to the summit, these extra bits wouldn’t survive a single ride in the conditions we tackle.

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...Can someone please clarify the difference between Enduro bikes sold in India and the rest of the world. Enduros in India, like the one from KTM in this post, have brake lights, indicators, grills and so many other forms of attachments. It looks more like an on-off road bike instead of an Enduro / Motocross...
You are correct!

The Enduro 390 from KTM is not an enduro motorcycle. KTM themselves classify it under Dual Sport and not Enduro, as was clearly observed in the MotorInc video - https://www.ktm.com/en-in/models/dua...0-enduror.html

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Re: 2025 KTM 390 Enduro R Review

Any idea how much the bike would lose weight if we removed the following items:

1. Saree guard
2. Crash guard
3. Grabrails
4. Pillion footpegs
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Any idea how much the bike would lose weight if we removed the following items:

1. Saree guard
2. Crash guard
3. Grabrails
4. Pillion footpegs
Should be anywhere from 6-10kgs. It is just a guess. International R is 165kgs with fuel. Ours is 177 with all the India specific bits like crash guards, grab rails, extra front fender, saree guard etc
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Any idea how much the bike would lose weight if we removed the following items:

1. Saree guard
2. Crash guard
3. Grabrails
4. Pillion footpegs
I am subscribed to the MotorInc app and I follow Shumi there, who has a snapshot of all updates to his KTM Adv 390 S.
He has mentioned the weight of the above things to come up to 5.9kg exactly.
Which is apparently Enduro R (the Indian R) territory.
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I am subscribed to the MotorInc app and I follow Shumi there, who has a snapshot of all updates to his KTM Adv 390 S.
He has mentioned the weight of the above things to come up to 5.9kg exactly.
Which is apparently Enduro R (the Indian R) territory.
Thats what I thought too. So how is this guy (at 3:23) saying that the Indian model weighs upto 11 kgs heavier because of the additional stuff?

Is it because the international varient has lighter suspension?

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Re: 2025 KTM 390 Enduro R Review

Bikewale just announced that ktm released global enduro variant in India at 3.5 ex-sh:: https://www.bikewale.com/news/ktm-la...t-rs-353-lakh/

This is great news ! I don't know if I really need the extra suspension travel, but I can now hopefully test ride and find out and make the decision ; i like having the choice.
I guess the pricing is perfect.
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Bikewale just announced that ktm released global enduro variant in India at 3.5 ex-sh:: https://www.bikewale.com/news/ktm-la...t-rs-353-lakh/

This is great news ! I don't know if I really need the extra suspension travel, but I can now hopefully test ride and find out and make the decision ; i like having the choice.
I guess the pricing is perfect.
Excellent pricing!

Does this also mean that its long travel 230mm suspension can be fitted to the standard Adventure model in India?
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This is great news ! I don't know if I really need the extra suspension travel, but I can now hopefully test ride and find out and make the decision ; i like having the choice.
I guess the pricing is perfect.
Exceptional pricing! It even under cuts the ADV390. And you can swap these shocks to the ADV to create an ADVR too. I was expecting it to be close to 4L.
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Bikewale just announced that ktm released global enduro variant in India at 3.5 ex-sh
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I guess the pricing is perfect.
Indeed! KTM's website says, the tyres are going to be Metzeler's Karoo 4s too, as opposed to the Mitas E07 on the outgoing Enduro. But the ex-showroom price is shown as 3.385L, which is for the outgoing Enduro. So not sure about the info on the site; either or both could be incorrect. But, given that there's now a 'balanced' option with the E07s, I feel like they have all the more reason and viability to provide the Karoo 4s for the more off-road oriented variant.

KTM kind of botched both the initial launches of the ADV X and Enduro. But has done really well listening and adapting to feedback. Kudos!
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