The Gearless Scooter Thread

WhiteKnight · 29th October 2007, 16:39

DCEite, I never really liked driving 2 wheelers, but happend to own a Vespa as well as a Kinetic Honda.

For me it is a no brainer, you should go for Activa. It is much better engineered and robust than the Kinetic lot. About other newcomers in gearless seg, I have no idea.

For me, a scooter is more a utility vehicle and Activa is the perfect fit.

Horray..My first post in 2-wheeler segment

Technocrat · 29th October 2007, 16:45

Blaze is by no standara light & easy to Manoeuver.

Krystal, its light but not sure on reliability aspect.

My Vote goes to Honda select from either Activa or Dio. Dio I believe is lighter.

Mileage to expect is around 40 Kpl depending on riding conditions & style.

Price I believe is in the range of 40-45k depending on state.

varunghatge · 29th October 2007, 16:55

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

My Vote goes to Honda select from either Activa or Dio. Dio I believe is lighter.

Mileage to expect is around 40 Kpl depending on riding conditions & style.

Dio is really the way to go if you are looking for milage...
plus honda can offer you good ***

snaronikar · 29th October 2007, 17:09

My choices is as below (for ungeared scooters):
1) Suzuki Access.
2) Honda Activa.
3) TVS Scooty Pep.
4) Kinetic Blaze.

Spitfire · 29th October 2007, 18:40

Get the Honda Activa or the HH Passion(advertised for girls, but what the heck), you cant go much wrong with those two.

sathyaprakash · 29th October 2007, 18:50

I myself planning to go for an ungeared scooter comming Jan so i went into lot of details and here is my choice

1.Kinetic Flyte (Value for money, currently sold in 65 countries,125cc engine which is peppy than others,lot of usefull items added & latest design)
2.Suzuki Access (old style,costlier,less storage,& less inovative features)
3.Honda Dio (better styled, costlier,been for number of years)
4.Honda Activa (old style, need to be upgraded)
5.Kinetic Blaze (less mileage,needs lot of time and energy to change rear tyre,costly,leave it or take it design)
6.TVS Scooty (been for tooooooo long,better for ladies)

DriverR · 29th October 2007, 19:43

I don't know about the new ungeared scooters mentioned, but Activa is a proven vehicle. Plus one additional feature it has is tubeless tires, which I'm not sure if the newer ones provide. If they do, then great.

So the question is whether to go for a proven and hence old vehicle or a newer/modern unproven vehicle....... I would be more partial towards Activa!

sunilbakshi · 30th October 2007, 09:35

flyte is the one to get. i m getting one for wifey

phamilyman · 30th October 2007, 14:24

In retrospect, doesnt matter. For your uber lil running, most warranty et al issues will not come up.

All fit your points 1-4, with the exception of kinetic/suzuki scoots, you'd better check parts availability and general experience at nearby outlets.

ravi@64bhp · 30th October 2007, 14:33

I second Technocrat. Blaze's maneuvering in City is painful. The mileage I am getting is only 35 in city.

Never trust kinetic in build quality and reliability. I faced lot of problems with Blaze. After Sales SErvice is pathetic.

Bajaj is not successful in making automatic scooters. Reliability needs to be established for Kristal.

The best bet would be Honda Dio, which is light and gives 45 kmpl. Easy to meneuver, lightweight, good mileage, and honda reliability. Of course, honda activa is the sibling, just style being different.

sathyaprakash · 30th October 2007, 17:36

DriverR > No other ungeared scooter other than From Honda stable has an puncture resistant tube ints rear but not tubuless tires as u mentioned, this greatly helps during the puncture as u can drive on with out fearing.

ravi@64bhp > Lot of things has changed with partnership between KYM and Kinetic as KYMs Flyte is curently running in 65 countries and their build is superb u can go through the reviews of Overdrive mag of oct issue or go and see it personally if u have doubt.

nosfreak · 30th October 2007, 19:40

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Originally Posted by sathyaprakash

ravi@64bhp > Lot of things has changed with partnership between KYM and Kinetic as KYMs Flyte is curently running in 65 countries and their build is superb u can go through the reviews of Overdrive mag of oct issue or go and see it personally if u have doubt.

@sathyaprakash : i own a blaze myself.... yes the after service is a problem.. writing to the company doesnt help. I shell 50 rs extra just to make sure the things are done well in my bike to my mech. the engine is buperb but the quality is bad.

other words close your eyes either choose a Dio or an Activa...

ravi@64bhp · 31st October 2007, 07:37

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Originally Posted by sathyaprakash

DriverR > ravi@64bhp > Lot of things has changed with partnership between KYM and Kinetic as KYMs Flyte is curently running in 65 countries and their build is superb u can go through the reviews of Overdrive mag of oct issue or go and see it personally if u have doubt.

Hi Satyaprakash,
Blaze too was and italiano scooter and the fit and finish is superb in other countries, not from kinetic. When Blaze was released, the mags wrote it was excellent. If really the Flyte is built by SYM directly, I would believe that the fit and finish is good. The after sales service is very pathetic and I never go for another kinetic. Btw, I never believe Mags.

rider60 · 31st October 2007, 07:37

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Originally Posted by sathyaprakash

DriverR > No other ungeared scooter other than From Honda stable has an puncture resistant tube ints rear but not tubuless tires as u mentioned, this greatly helps during the puncture as u can drive on with out fearing.

dude the puncture resistant tube does not help unless the nail/thorn the pierces the area where the fliud is present hence not worth the attention! i have had a couple of punctures on my unicorn's stock tyre and it was useless as the nail did not pierce the fluid filled area, also people say, once a considerable amount of fluid is out you end up spending for a new tube so just chill its just a gig from the honda to sell well!, just like the bajaj are adding a few gizmos to sell!

pawan_pullarwar · 31st October 2007, 10:03

I would suggest you to go with 1. Suzuki Access and second preference Hondia Dio. Access has some advantage over Deo, it has 125CC engine, Front telescope shock absorvers and has same weight.
I owned Blaze and kept for 6 months driven 6000KM, keep away from this vehicle.

29th October 2007, 16:39	#76
WhiteKnight BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 998 Thanked: 661 Times View My Garage	DCEite, I never really liked driving 2 wheelers, but happend to own a Vespa as well as a Kinetic Honda. For me it is a no brainer, you should go for Activa. It is much better engineered and robust than the Kinetic lot. About other newcomers in gearless seg, I have no idea. For me, a scooter is more a utility vehicle and Activa is the perfect fit. Horray..My first post in 2-wheeler segment
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29th October 2007, 16:45	#77
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Blaze is by no standara light & easy to Manoeuver. Krystal, its light but not sure on reliability aspect. My Vote goes to Honda select from either Activa or Dio. Dio I believe is lighter. Mileage to expect is around 40 Kpl depending on riding conditions & style. Price I believe is in the range of 40-45k depending on state.
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29th October 2007, 17:09	#79
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	My choices is as below (for ungeared scooters): 1) Suzuki Access. 2) Honda Activa. 3) TVS Scooty Pep. 4) Kinetic Blaze.
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29th October 2007, 18:40	#80
Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,312 Thanked: 774 Times	Get the Honda Activa or the HH Passion(advertised for girls, but what the heck), you cant go much wrong with those two.
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29th October 2007, 18:50	#81
sathyaprakash BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 448 Thanked: 46 Times	I myself planning to go for an ungeared scooter comming Jan so i went into lot of details and here is my choice 1.Kinetic Flyte (Value for money, currently sold in 65 countries,125cc engine which is peppy than others,lot of usefull items added & latest design) 2.Suzuki Access (old style,costlier,less storage,& less inovative features) 3.Honda Dio (better styled, costlier,been for number of years) 4.Honda Activa (old style, need to be upgraded) 5.Kinetic Blaze (less mileage,needs lot of time and energy to change rear tyre,costly,leave it or take it design) 6.TVS Scooty (been for tooooooo long,better for ladies)
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29th October 2007, 19:43	#82
DriverR BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 414 Thanked: 526 Times	I don't know about the new ungeared scooters mentioned, but Activa is a proven vehicle. Plus one additional feature it has is tubeless tires, which I'm not sure if the newer ones provide. If they do, then great. So the question is whether to go for a proven and hence old vehicle or a newer/modern unproven vehicle....... I would be more partial towards Activa!
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30th October 2007, 09:35	#83
sunilbakshi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 0 Times	flyte is the one to get. i m getting one for wifey
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30th October 2007, 14:24	#84
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,641 Times	In retrospect, doesnt matter. For your uber lil running, most warranty et al issues will not come up. All fit your points 1-4, with the exception of kinetic/suzuki scoots, you'd better check parts availability and general experience at nearby outlets.
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30th October 2007, 14:33	#85
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 10 Times	I second Technocrat. Blaze's maneuvering in City is painful. The mileage I am getting is only 35 in city. Never trust kinetic in build quality and reliability. I faced lot of problems with Blaze. After Sales SErvice is pathetic. Bajaj is not successful in making automatic scooters. Reliability needs to be established for Kristal. The best bet would be Honda Dio, which is light and gives 45 kmpl. Easy to meneuver, lightweight, good mileage, and honda reliability. Of course, honda activa is the sibling, just style being different. Last edited by ravi@64bhp : 30th October 2007 at 14:47.
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30th October 2007, 17:36	#86
sathyaprakash BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 448 Thanked: 46 Times	DriverR > No other ungeared scooter other than From Honda stable has an puncture resistant tube ints rear but not tubuless tires as u mentioned, this greatly helps during the puncture as u can drive on with out fearing. ravi@64bhp > Lot of things has changed with partnership between KYM and Kinetic as KYMs Flyte is curently running in 65 countries and their build is superb u can go through the reviews of Overdrive mag of oct issue or go and see it personally if u have doubt.
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31st October 2007, 10:03	#90
pawan_pullarwar BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pune - Now in Munich, Germany Posts: 778 Thanked: 129 Times	I would suggest you to go with 1. Suzuki Access and second preference Hondia Dio. Access has some advantage over Deo, it has 125CC engine, Front telescope shock absorvers and has same weight. I owned Blaze and kept for 6 months driven 6000KM, keep away from this vehicle.
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