The Gearless Scooter Thread

DCEite · 4th November 2007, 17:13

Just came back from a brief test drive of Honda Dio and Kinetic Sym Flyte.
I am no expert in two wheelers, but one thing is for sure. The Kinetic Sym Flyte feels and drives light years ahead of the Honda Dio. Boy o boy, what a refined engine. Never experienced that kind of refinement in any other bike or scooter before. In comparison, Dio engine felt a little crude and also a little sluggish. Other factors like more powerful engine (125cc in comparison to 102cc of Dio), front fuelling, longer wheelbase and very good brakes tilted the balance heavily in favour of the Sym Flyte.
Regarding the A.S.S. issues, well my usage is going to be very limited, around 300 kms a month, so i dont think it should be a major cause for concern. Also the fact that Sym has 3 year warranty as against Honda's 2 year.

So Kinetic Sym Flyte it is. Thanks again for all your suggestions.

sathyaprakash · 4th November 2007, 20:34

GREAT!!!!!!!! DCEite> do you remember I adviced u to go for SYM after comparing with all others, now i am very much thrilled you are taking the right choice.

breezydrive · 4th November 2007, 20:46

I'll suggest you to buy activa, tried & tested product.Great VFM!
Honda scooters are real good.
Even the original Kinetic Hondas were v.good

revvedup · 4th November 2007, 23:10

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Originally Posted by rider60

point taken,but saves a lot of riding stress off in the bumper to bumper traffic, i still have my left hand aching from day before yesterday's ride( on my unicorn) in the neck to neck traffic (got stuck in it for an hour, due to the rains here in hyderabad).

Agree on that count but I think these scoots are not useful if you drive more than 10 Km one way .What is your exact usage dceite.

sunilbakshi · 4th November 2007, 23:47

yup the flyte is the right choice

phamilyman · 5th November 2007, 01:08

Now one suggestion - become its evangelist. Spread the word, so it succeeds and spares/service remains available

I've not seen either flyte/access on road or on x/tbhp - so you'll be the first owner - unique privilege on tbhp

rider60 · 5th November 2007, 01:37

dude think again and please consult the nosfreak before you make your kill, as he says he has seen people at the kinetic A.S.S taking away parts of other bikes incase of shortage and fixing them to the others, if this is position of the kinetic guys then man its bad!

also the bike it yet to be tested so the mileage issues my crop up bad as its a ungreared scooter just think again and please confirm with the nosfreak guy here is a link so that you can pm him directly and talk before you make your kill!

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/members/nosfreak.html

DCEite · 5th November 2007, 09:23

Now you people are scaring me. lol

I think the pros outweigh the cons here. As i said, my running is very less. <15kms per day and <300 kms per month. So thats about <3600kms a year! Now do you think with that kind of running A.S.S. will be a major issue?

Also, the Sym 125 cc engine is not new. Its a tried and tested model sold in many countries abroad (Xpro 125cc scooter). Its mileage and performance is known. Also, the 3 year warranty.

Do i still need to go with the crowd, and get the 'reliable' Honda Dio?

musicmanaman · 5th November 2007, 11:17

DCEite, Please try the Honda Activa, I see that you have tried the Dio not the Activa, to the best of my knowledge the seating position is different, so please try the Activa before you finalise your purchase.

phamilyman · 5th November 2007, 11:34

S--T happens all the time. So you can just walk across to the spares deptt of the dealer workshop, take some standard ten items (the kinda list that they have) and see what's the availability.

You're correct in a way. However, do understand well enough that once in a while you may have to run around if some part is unavailable.

Why don't you chat up pawan pullarwar and see how his blaze exp was? or ravi@64bhp? They are the best (and brave) guides! or contact ninad on xbhp - he bought the blaze INSPITE of everyone saying no to kinetic. and he's happy (atleast his posts are :P)

archie · 5th November 2007, 12:46

hi guys I am new here. looks like i may be the only girl here?
I stumbled on this forum and topic while looking up "flyte" on google and having just done this whole thinking for my own scooter purchase, thought I'd pitch in my two bit.

Basically, I did a lot of researching and thinking while choosing my scooter, took test rides etc and I bought the Flyte because I found it to be the best scooter in India.

DCEite - you are right in saying that the Flyte feels and rides lightyears ahead of the Dio.

vnabhi · 5th November 2007, 13:43

I am not sure about the Flyte, as I have not seen it so far. But my wife has a Kinetic Honda. It is a pleasure to ride and its brakes are good. But its ground clearance and mileage is pathetic--scrapes most speed-breakers if there is a pillion rider. I am told all Hondas in India have this problem with GC--even cars, but a cousin of mine, who now owns an Activa says that its GC is better than the Kinetic's, which he'd owned earlier. But he says the brakes were much better in the Kinetic.
So I suggest you take all these factors into consideration.

pawan_pullarwar · 5th November 2007, 14:25

Archie: Give us more feedback on flyte in separate thread.

archie · 5th November 2007, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawan_pullarwar

Archie: Give us more feedback on flyte in separate thread.

ok will do later when i have some time free

archie · 5th November 2007, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawan_pullarwar

Archie: Give us more feedback on flyte in separate thread.

ok Pawan i ll write more later but really what u have to do is take a ride because thats the only way to appreciate (or not) a scooter

4th November 2007, 17:13	#106
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,417 Thanked: 2,550 Times	Just came back from a brief test drive of Honda Dio and Kinetic Sym Flyte. I am no expert in two wheelers, but one thing is for sure. The Kinetic Sym Flyte feels and drives light years ahead of the Honda Dio. Boy o boy, what a refined engine. Never experienced that kind of refinement in any other bike or scooter before. In comparison, Dio engine felt a little crude and also a little sluggish. Other factors like more powerful engine (125cc in comparison to 102cc of Dio), front fuelling, longer wheelbase and very good brakes tilted the balance heavily in favour of the Sym Flyte. Regarding the A.S.S. issues, well my usage is going to be very limited, around 300 kms a month, so i dont think it should be a major cause for concern. Also the fact that Sym has 3 year warranty as against Honda's 2 year. So Kinetic Sym Flyte it is. Thanks again for all your suggestions.
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4th November 2007, 20:34	#107
sathyaprakash BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 448 Thanked: 46 Times	GREAT!!!!!!!! DCEite> do you remember I adviced u to go for SYM after comparing with all others, now i am very much thrilled you are taking the right choice.
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4th November 2007, 20:46	#108
breezydrive BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NOIDA Posts: 750 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	I'll suggest you to buy activa, tried & tested product.Great VFM! Honda scooters are real good. Even the original Kinetic Hondas were v.good
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4th November 2007, 23:47	#110
sunilbakshi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 0 Times	yup the flyte is the right choice
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5th November 2007, 01:08	#111
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Now one suggestion - become its evangelist. Spread the word, so it succeeds and spares/service remains available I've not seen either flyte/access on road or on x/tbhp - so you'll be the first owner - unique privilege on tbhp
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5th November 2007, 01:37	#112
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	dude think again and please consult the nosfreak before you make your kill, as he says he has seen people at the kinetic A.S.S taking away parts of other bikes incase of shortage and fixing them to the others, if this is position of the kinetic guys then man its bad! also the bike it yet to be tested so the mileage issues my crop up bad as its a ungreared scooter just think again and please confirm with the nosfreak guy here is a link so that you can pm him directly and talk before you make your kill! http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/members/nosfreak.html
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5th November 2007, 09:23	#113
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,417 Thanked: 2,550 Times	Now you people are scaring me. lol I think the pros outweigh the cons here. As i said, my running is very less. <15kms per day and <300 kms per month. So thats about <3600kms a year! Now do you think with that kind of running A.S.S. will be a major issue? Also, the Sym 125 cc engine is not new. Its a tried and tested model sold in many countries abroad (Xpro 125cc scooter). Its mileage and performance is known. Also, the 3 year warranty. Do i still need to go with the crowd, and get the 'reliable' Honda Dio?
	() Thanks

5th November 2007, 11:17	#114
musicmanaman BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 927 Thanked: 25 Times	DCEite, Please try the Honda Activa, I see that you have tried the Dio not the Activa, to the best of my knowledge the seating position is different, so please try the Activa before you finalise your purchase.
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5th November 2007, 11:34	#115
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	S--T happens all the time. So you can just walk across to the spares deptt of the dealer workshop, take some standard ten items (the kinda list that they have) and see what's the availability. You're correct in a way. However, do understand well enough that once in a while you may have to run around if some part is unavailable. Why don't you chat up pawan pullarwar and see how his blaze exp was? or ravi@64bhp? They are the best (and brave) guides! or contact ninad on xbhp - he bought the blaze INSPITE of everyone saying no to kinetic. and he's happy (atleast his posts are :P)
	() Thanks

5th November 2007, 12:46	#116
archie BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 57 Thanked: 0 Times	hi guys I am new here. looks like i may be the only girl here? I stumbled on this forum and topic while looking up "flyte" on google and having just done this whole thinking for my own scooter purchase, thought I'd pitch in my two bit. Basically, I did a lot of researching and thinking while choosing my scooter, took test rides etc and I bought the Flyte because I found it to be the best scooter in India. DCEite - you are right in saying that the Flyte feels and rides lightyears ahead of the Dio.
	() Thanks

5th November 2007, 13:43	#117
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,958 Thanked: 2,393 Times View My Garage	I am not sure about the Flyte, as I have not seen it so far. But my wife has a Kinetic Honda. It is a pleasure to ride and its brakes are good. But its ground clearance and mileage is pathetic--scrapes most speed-breakers if there is a pillion rider. I am told all Hondas in India have this problem with GC--even cars, but a cousin of mine, who now owns an Activa says that its GC is better than the Kinetic's, which he'd owned earlier. But he says the brakes were much better in the Kinetic. So I suggest you take all these factors into consideration.
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5th November 2007, 14:25	#118
pawan_pullarwar BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pune - Now in Munich, Germany Posts: 778 Thanked: 129 Times	Archie: Give us more feedback on flyte in separate thread.
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