Auto Expo 2008 - What can we expect from the bike makers?

Rtech · 12th November 2007, 15:23

Auto Expo is around the corner. lets speculate a bit and see what we can expect from our Bike makers. I have a feeling we'll see a few surprises this time around.

Hero Honda
Fuel injected Karizma is what everyone seems to expect. Problem is, HH is severely restricted by their parent Honda, so much so that they need permission to even change stickers! So it all depends on what Honda allow them to do.

What else can we expect from them? A new economiser?

Bajaj
Rumors have been heavy about a 350/400 cc bike from Bajaj. Could this be the time they launch?

Will they have KTM as part of the Bajaj stall or would it be a separate entity?

TVS
I really don't know what to expect from them. Any input?

Yamaha
After their big talk about getting back into performance, I just hope they back it up with the goods. The 250 single should be here, but the final spec, both motor and cycle parts, are left unclear. Lets hope they don't mess up on this one.

The rest? Please add in your inputs guys.

Ajaybiz · 12th November 2007, 16:06

Expecting big one from HH as many times heard about some 350CC+ bike from their stable is about to come. Bajaj sure will display their forthcoming model having 250CC+ engine must be twin and the most awaited 250 CC SBK from them which was rumored as developed on ZZR platform.TVS may be in 200-250 CC single cylender league.Yamaha may be they will quit India or will come up with so called 150 CC Gladiator along with 250 CC.

GTO · 12th November 2007, 16:10

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Yamaha
After their big talk about getting back into performance, I just hope they back it up with the goods. The 250 single should be here, but the final spec, both motor and cycle parts, are left unclear. Lets hope they don't mess up on this one.

R6 and the R1? Impending launch?

Rtech · 12th November 2007, 16:15

The superbike launch is confirmed news. I guess we're all waiting to see what affordable products will be launched in '08.

Nikhilb2008 · 12th November 2007, 16:31

TVS supposedly are developing a newer model based on the RTR 160. A friend has some ex-collegemates working in TVS.

Dont know if this bike will be released at the Auto Expo though.

iraghava · 12th November 2007, 16:32

A friend is a Suzuki dealer in my home town & he was mentioning that they are coming up with a 150cc bike this March or so I think. I would suppose that would be displayed too.

Rahulkool · 12th November 2007, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtech

Auto Expo is around the corner. lets speculate a bit and see what we can expect from our Bike makers. I have a feeling we'll see a few surprises this time around.

Hero Honda
Fuel injected Karizma is what everyone seems to expect. Problem is, HH is severely restricted by their parent Honda, so much so that they need permission to even change stickers! So it all depends on what Honda allow them to do.

What else can we expect from them? A new economiser?

Bajaj
Rumors have been heavy about a 350/400 cc bike from Bajaj. Could this be the time they launch?

Will they have KTM as part of the Bajaj stall or would it be a separate entity?

TVS
I really don't know what to expect from them. Any input?

Yamaha
After their big talk about getting back into performance, I just hope they back it up with the goods. The 250 single should be here, but the final spec, both motor and cycle parts, are left unclear. Lets hope they don't mess up on this one.

The rest? Please add in your inputs guys.

HOnda doesn't have any fuel injected engine in that category that yi don't think ZMA will be launched in fuel injector form, they launch the glamour Fi just to make it first Fi bike in india. ZMA got the engine from a CRF230 and those offroad bikes still come with carb so ZMA will be tough unless honda specially do it for HH
i have heard some rumours about the full fairing HH but nothing for sure, maybe they will reveal it there

Bajaj is surely gonna display the KTM bikes, as i read on some other foru, they are planning to launch KTM bikes so this will be perfect timings. i don't think there is any 300-400cc bike from bajaj coz if they are going to launch it will take at least 1-2 years. and they are still trying hard to make 220 trouble free.

i guess Apache RTR Fi is going to take the center stage in TVS stall. altho they will showcase some more prototypes which never gets launched. but haven't heard any new model from TVS

about yamaha they are just too hopeless, they sud shut off their operations in india

BunnyPunia · 12th November 2007, 16:57

Bajaj : New high capacity bike to be displayed (like they displayed the p220 2 yrs back and is a reality now).

HH : FI karizma : Yes. Its long overdue now.

Honda : Chances of the 250 (cbx twister). chances of a 125cc gearless scoot

Kinetic : SYM range

Royal Enfield : FI bikes, which will first go on sale outside India as usual! Also the twin spark plug bikes

Suzuki : Range of SBKs which they will start selling officially. Also, a 150cc bike for India

TVS : Apache RTR Fi, higher capacity bike for India (250cc+)

Yamaha : R1 , MT-01, plus other high capacity big bikes. Most prolly the YS 250 too.

Also, the usual range of chinese bikes, and the never ending new electric bikes!

Torqy · 12th November 2007, 19:04

What's with these un-bikely names like Karizma, Ambition, Pleasure...?

Whatever HH comes up with, I wish they don't name them as Kareena / Agony / Ecstasy / Hope etc.

Isn't there anybody in HH who can coin some good BIKE NAMES?

-- Torqy

phamilyman · 12th November 2007, 19:13

Umm, given BAL's track record with p220(18 months from showoff to launch), tvs's lack of success in bringing chicane/taurus to market, HH just sitting on its haunches, I would just not bother.

Koshun is when will the above bikes (in bunny's post) ACTUALLY be launched? i'm sure the expo will be eye candy (machine + natural), but launches - yawwwwnnnn

turbo_v12 · 12th November 2007, 20:32

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Originally Posted by BunnyPunia

Royal Enfield : FI bikes, which will first go on sale outside India as usual! Also the twin spark plug bikes

Suzuki : Range of SBKs which they will start selling officially. Also, a 150cc bike for India

TVS : Apache RTR Fi, higher capacity bike for India (250cc+)

Yamaha : R1 , MT-01, plus other high capacity big bikes. Most prolly the YS 250 too.

Are all these bikes being displayed this time? And is the RTR E-Fi 250cc+?

mavrick · 12th November 2007, 22:34

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Originally Posted by BunnyPunia

HH : FI karizma : Yes. Its long overdue now.

Honda : Chances of the 250 (cbx twister)

Suzuki : Range of SBKs which they will start selling officially. Also, a 150cc bike for India

TVS : Apache RTR Fi, higher capacity bike for India (250cc+)

Yamaha :Most prolly the YS 250 too.

only 250s is now dream for common Indian biker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

Umm, given BAL's track record with p220(18 months from showoff to launch), tvs's lack of success in bringing chicane/taurus to market, HH just sitting on its haunches, I would just not bother.

Koshun is when will the above bikes (in bunny's post) ACTUALLY be launched? i'm sure the expo will be eye candy (machine + natural), but launches - yawwwwnnnn

bajaj

. big machine+natural is okey for our paisa wasool.

rider60 · 12th November 2007, 23:10

well i am not sure about other companies but i am waiting quite desperately for launch the 250cc twister from the honda guys. hope this auto show atleast show cases this bike in India this time if not launch soon. i will book one with out a second thought if its launched!

straight6 · 23rd November 2007, 06:18

Does anyone know confirmed dates for the auto expo? I heard it was 22-26 but i guess that was BS.

manish7 · 23rd November 2007, 11:44

It's little sad the international giants like Suzuki, Honda (and Yamaha as well) have very mediocre models for Indian market. Zeus & Unicorn look previous generation bikes compared to Indian manufacturers' Apache & pulsar. Why are they so conservative in India? Why can't unicorn proactively put LCD console, better design - they've added ally wheels and trip-meter much after the competition heated up. So while they were upgrading - why not add features to put themselves ahead of competition? Why just follow up - why not lead? Why can't they develop cruiser bikes like Avenger or introduce completely new design to the market?

I still think Unicorn engine is much ahead of Pulsar in terms of quality & refinement -- but looks wise, Unicorn is just too dull.

Zeus doesn't even deserve mention - even most mediocre, economy splendor looks better in comparison. Wish Suzuki & Honda would take Indian market seriously and make better designs.

12th November 2007, 15:23	#1
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Auto Expo 2008 - What can we expect from the bike makers? Auto Expo is around the corner. lets speculate a bit and see what we can expect from our Bike makers. I have a feeling we'll see a few surprises this time around. Hero Honda Fuel injected Karizma is what everyone seems to expect. Problem is, HH is severely restricted by their parent Honda, so much so that they need permission to even change stickers! So it all depends on what Honda allow them to do. What else can we expect from them? A new economiser? Bajaj Rumors have been heavy about a 350/400 cc bike from Bajaj. Could this be the time they launch? Will they have KTM as part of the Bajaj stall or would it be a separate entity? TVS I really don't know what to expect from them. Any input? Yamaha After their big talk about getting back into performance, I just hope they back it up with the goods. The 250 single should be here, but the final spec, both motor and cycle parts, are left unclear. Lets hope they don't mess up on this one. The rest? Please add in your inputs guys.
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12th November 2007, 16:06	#2
Ajaybiz BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,440 Thanked: 320 Times View My Garage	Expecting big one from HH as many times heard about some 350CC+ bike from their stable is about to come. Bajaj sure will display their forthcoming model having 250CC+ engine must be twin and the most awaited 250 CC SBK from them which was rumored as developed on ZZR platform.TVS may be in 200-250 CC single cylender league.Yamaha may be they will quit India or will come up with so called 150 CC Gladiator along with 250 CC.
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12th November 2007, 16:15	#4
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	The superbike launch is confirmed news. I guess we're all waiting to see what affordable products will be launched in '08.
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12th November 2007, 16:31	#5
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,140 Times	TVS supposedly are developing a newer model based on the RTR 160. A friend has some ex-collegemates working in TVS. Dont know if this bike will be released at the Auto Expo though.
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12th November 2007, 16:32	#6
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	A friend is a Suzuki dealer in my home town & he was mentioning that they are coming up with a 150cc bike this March or so I think. I would suppose that would be displayed too.
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12th November 2007, 16:57	#8
BunnyPunia BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 896 Thanked: 1,291 Times View My Garage	Bajaj : New high capacity bike to be displayed (like they displayed the p220 2 yrs back and is a reality now). HH : FI karizma : Yes. Its long overdue now. Honda : Chances of the 250 (cbx twister). chances of a 125cc gearless scoot Kinetic : SYM range Royal Enfield : FI bikes, which will first go on sale outside India as usual! Also the twin spark plug bikes Suzuki : Range of SBKs which they will start selling officially. Also, a 150cc bike for India TVS : Apache RTR Fi, higher capacity bike for India (250cc+) Yamaha : R1 , MT-01, plus other high capacity big bikes. Most prolly the YS 250 too. Also, the usual range of chinese bikes, and the never ending new electric bikes!
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12th November 2007, 19:04	#9
Torqy BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 966 Thanked: 244 Times	What's with these un-bikely names like Karizma, Ambition, Pleasure...? Whatever HH comes up with, I wish they don't name them as Kareena / Agony / Ecstasy / Hope etc. Isn't there anybody in HH who can coin some good BIKE NAMES? -- Torqy
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12th November 2007, 19:13	#10
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Umm, given BAL's track record with p220(18 months from showoff to launch), tvs's lack of success in bringing chicane/taurus to market, HH just sitting on its haunches, I would just not bother. Koshun is when will the above bikes (in bunny's post) ACTUALLY be launched? i'm sure the expo will be eye candy (machine + natural), but launches - yawwwwnnnn
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12th November 2007, 23:10	#13
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	well i am not sure about other companies but i am waiting quite desperately for launch the 250cc twister from the honda guys. hope this auto show atleast show cases this bike in India this time if not launch soon. i will book one with out a second thought if its launched!
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23rd November 2007, 06:18	#14
straight6 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,548 Thanked: 296 Times	Does anyone know confirmed dates for the auto expo? I heard it was 22-26 but i guess that was BS.
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23rd November 2007, 11:44	#15
manish7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 508 Thanked: 0 Times	It's little sad the international giants like Suzuki, Honda (and Yamaha as well) have very mediocre models for Indian market. Zeus & Unicorn look previous generation bikes compared to Indian manufacturers' Apache & pulsar. Why are they so conservative in India? Why can't unicorn proactively put LCD console, better design - they've added ally wheels and trip-meter much after the competition heated up. So while they were upgrading - why not add features to put themselves ahead of competition? Why just follow up - why not lead? Why can't they develop cruiser bikes like Avenger or introduce completely new design to the market? I still think Unicorn engine is much ahead of Pulsar in terms of quality & refinement -- but looks wise, Unicorn is just too dull. Zeus doesn't even deserve mention - even most mediocre, economy splendor looks better in comparison. Wish Suzuki & Honda would take Indian market seriously and make better designs.
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