Bullet fuses blows as soon as i turn the ignition on.

zoom_vroom · 22nd July 2008, 11:54

Hi Guys
I have a Bullet Electra-2003 make.
I got my new battery for the bike and have been facing a problem with my bike.
The bike's battery was 5 years old,so replaced it with a new one since my bike was not starting.The neutral light was not coming.

After the battery change the bike starting problem was solved. But now when i tried to start my bike after a week, it did not start.

Checked the fuse, and the fuse was blown.I used the spare fuse to solve the problem.
To my surprise as soon as i turned the ignition on, the fuse blew up again.
Need your help guys so that i can atleast ride my bike to the service centre.

Thanks in advance

Rehaan · 22nd July 2008, 13:14

Hi zoom_vroom,

Read this post. TSK was having a similar problem, and he has posted the cause : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post908016

You probably have a short circuit somewhere? Be careful and try not to bypass the fuse (ie by putting a wire instead etc) since that might cause sparks and fire.

Try and find split/cut wires touching the frame/metal or each other.

cya
R

anjan_c2007 · 22nd July 2008, 13:57

You must please immediately take it to some reputed Bullet specialised electrician. As such, the electricals of a Bullet are not very reliable and you must not take any risks.To avoid further damage, get the repairs done immediately. If you are not able to reach the electrician soon, disconnect the battery terminals and park the bike till it is repaired.Preferably do not attempt to start and ride the bike to the electricians shop.If the electrician can come to your place and do some temporary work to start and ride the bike you can try that.

Rehaan · 22nd July 2008, 14:30

zoom_vroom,

I just remembered - once a friend of mine had a bullet and the whole wiring system turned red hot and caught fire instantly due to a short circuit. The bike was ok but he had to buy a whole new harness.

Anyway, if you are a DIY kinda guy with even a very basic understanding of electrical circuits:
1. Disconnect the bike battery (negative terminal first)
2. Get a bulb/LED/motor/buzzer or anything that runs on 1.5/9volts.
3. Get a REGULAR battery (AA or 9v etc - NOT the car battery which can put across a HUGE current and cause trouble)
4. Rig up the battery the same way the bike battery was
5. Place the bulb/led/motor in series in the circuit right before one of the batt. terminals
6. Put a new fuse in
7. Turn the ignition on
8. The motor/light/led should activate (due to the short circuit)
9. Hunt around the bike, move wires around etc until the motor/light/led deactivates
10. That should help you pinpoint the problem quicker!

Alternatively if you have a multimeter with a continuity feature (and a buzzer) that will work great. Worst case u can even use it on resistance setting - just connect it to the batt connections (without the batt there) and you wont need a AA/9v batery or a LED/motor etc.

cya
R

zoom_vroom · 22nd July 2008, 14:53

Thanks Rehaan,Anjan

I just called up RE Auth. Dealer.
They shall be sending the mechanic to my place this Saturday.
I shall disconnect the battery terminals today.
But i think i need to dig in myself.
I doubt if the mechanic shall do anything more than replacing the fuse.

Thanks

zoom_vroom · 23rd July 2008, 21:12

Hey Guys
I just fixed it this evening.
The issue was a faulty brake lamp cable just near the fuse that for causing the short circuit.
Removed the cable, and it worked.
Though had to sacrafice 3 fuses.
Shall take the bike to RE service centre to get things fixed.
Oh. What a relief now.

zoom_vroom · 29th July 2008, 10:43

No man it again haunts me.

The problem is still there.
I went to RE Authorised service centre in faridabad,Swastik Motors.
Believe me, the mechanics there don't know anything about the bullet.
I have lodged a complaint with RE,and thet responded on the same day.
If anyone needs RE customer service manager's cell number, do let me know.
He has promised to get the bike done this saturday.
Else shall take to it to the famous "Panditji" who has his workshop near YMCA college in faridabad.

Nilesh5417 · 29th July 2008, 12:21

If you do come across someone who can really work on bullet electricals, click a picture and post it here!

I'm yet to find someone inspite of going to tons of people who were recommended. Each could solve a solitary or a couple of problems but not one mech who could really fix the eletricals. But do what Rehaan said and it should help. The most common places to look for such shorts (and naked wires) are:
1. Under the rear mud gaurd since the tyre eats the wires running to the rear brake light assembly.
2. Under the seat, the most neglected area
3. In the side boxes, especially if you have additional/bigger horns, lights etc installed that required heavy changes to the wiring.

zoom_vroom · 2nd December 2009, 16:22

Hi Guys
I am back at it again. Now everything is OK in the bike.
Yesterday when i started my bike, it started in a single kick. I kept it idling for 2-3 minutes and then switched it off.
Now when i try to start again, it just doesn't start. I get the kick feedback like one gets when you try to start the bike with Ignition switch in off position.
All is OK, the battery is up, Neutral light glows bright but u sticll can't start my bike.
Please help me guys.
Thanks in advance,

jingaboysr · 2nd December 2009, 19:39

Did you check the spark plug if you are getting sparks when you kick?

GreaseMonk · 2nd December 2009, 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom_vroom

Hi Guys
I am back at it again. Now everything is OK in the bike.
Yesterday when i started my bike, it started in a single kick. I kept it idling for 2-3 minutes and then switched it off.
Now when i try to start again, it just doesn't start. I get the kick feedback like one gets when you try to start the bike with Ignition switch in off position.
All is OK, the battery is up, Neutral light glows bright but u sticll can't start my bike.
Please help me guys.
Thanks in advance,

It is possible that the engine was flooded once you turned it off. This is one cause for a kickback (atleast in my experience). If you face this issue again, close the fuel tap, keep the throttle and decomp valve open, and kick a couple of times.

Then open the fuel tap and start normally.

Let me know if this works.

zoom_vroom · 3rd December 2009, 07:13

Spark plug seems ok, but even in the evening i tried but could not start it.
Shall try Grease Monk's suggesttion and let you guys know.
Thanks a lot guys.

jingaboysr · 3rd December 2009, 15:47

I once had a problem of severe petrol overflow, to a point that my air filter actually started leaking petrol! I removed the spark plug and kept the hole open, and also did what GreaseMonk told, put petrol to off, hold decomp and full throttle and kick several times, and kept it like that the whole night, the next day morning it started without any problems.

Also remember to switch off your choke.

zoom_vroom · 7th December 2009, 09:41

Thanks guys, finally managed to resolve the issue this weekend.
Since the bike had been satnding for a long time, carburettor had smudge buildup and this led to the spark plug getting spoilt.
Got the carburettor cleaned and a new spark plug installed.
Works like a charm now.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

zoom_vroom · 2nd July 2010, 14:20

Hi guys, reopening an old thread.
I am unable to start my Bullet. All seems ok, the neutral light glows bright.
But when i kick start it, it just doesn't start up.
The sound i get i like the one when one tries to start with ignition off.
Please give pointers for sorting out this issue.

Thanks guys !

22nd July 2008, 11:54	#1
zoom_vroom BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 262 Thanked: 52 Times	Bullet fuses blows as soon as i turn the ignition on. Hi Guys I have a Bullet Electra-2003 make. I got my new battery for the bike and have been facing a problem with my bike. The bike's battery was 5 years old,so replaced it with a new one since my bike was not starting.The neutral light was not coming. After the battery change the bike starting problem was solved. But now when i tried to start my bike after a week, it did not start. Checked the fuse, and the fuse was blown.I used the spare fuse to solve the problem. To my surprise as soon as i turned the ignition on, the fuse blew up again. Need your help guys so that i can atleast ride my bike to the service centre. Thanks in advance
	() Thanks

22nd July 2008, 13:14	#2
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,037 Thanked: 34,067 Times	Hi zoom_vroom, Read this post. TSK was having a similar problem, and he has posted the cause : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post908016 You probably have a short circuit somewhere? Be careful and try not to bypass the fuse (ie by putting a wire instead etc) since that might cause sparks and fire. Try and find split/cut wires touching the frame/metal or each other. cya R
	() Thanks

22nd July 2008, 13:57	#3
anjan_c2007 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 8,301 Thanked: 20,474 Times View My Garage	You must please immediately take it to some reputed Bullet specialised electrician. As such, the electricals of a Bullet are not very reliable and you must not take any risks.To avoid further damage, get the repairs done immediately. If you are not able to reach the electrician soon, disconnect the battery terminals and park the bike till it is repaired.Preferably do not attempt to start and ride the bike to the electricians shop.If the electrician can come to your place and do some temporary work to start and ride the bike you can try that.
	() Thanks

22nd July 2008, 14:30	#4
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,037 Thanked: 34,067 Times	zoom_vroom, I just remembered - once a friend of mine had a bullet and the whole wiring system turned red hot and caught fire instantly due to a short circuit. The bike was ok but he had to buy a whole new harness. Anyway, if you are a DIY kinda guy with even a very basic understanding of electrical circuits: 1. Disconnect the bike battery (negative terminal first) 2. Get a bulb/LED/motor/buzzer or anything that runs on 1.5/9volts. 3. Get a REGULAR battery (AA or 9v etc - NOT the car battery which can put across a HUGE current and cause trouble) 4. Rig up the battery the same way the bike battery was 5. Place the bulb/led/motor in series in the circuit right before one of the batt. terminals 6. Put a new fuse in 7. Turn the ignition on 8. The motor/light/led should activate (due to the short circuit) 9. Hunt around the bike, move wires around etc until the motor/light/led deactivates 10. That should help you pinpoint the problem quicker! Alternatively if you have a multimeter with a continuity feature (and a buzzer) that will work great. Worst case u can even use it on resistance setting - just connect it to the batt connections (without the batt there) and you wont need a AA/9v batery or a LED/motor etc. cya R
	() Thanks

22nd July 2008, 14:53	#5
zoom_vroom BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 262 Thanked: 52 Times	Thanks Rehaan,Anjan I just called up RE Auth. Dealer. They shall be sending the mechanic to my place this Saturday. I shall disconnect the battery terminals today. But i think i need to dig in myself. I doubt if the mechanic shall do anything more than replacing the fuse. Thanks
	() Thanks

23rd July 2008, 21:12	#6
zoom_vroom BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 262 Thanked: 52 Times	Issue Fixed Hey Guys I just fixed it this evening. The issue was a faulty brake lamp cable just near the fuse that for causing the short circuit. Removed the cable, and it worked. Though had to sacrafice 3 fuses. Shall take the bike to RE service centre to get things fixed. Oh. What a relief now.
	() Thanks

29th July 2008, 10:43	#7
zoom_vroom BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 262 Thanked: 52 Times	Swastik Motors lets me down No man it again haunts me. The problem is still there. I went to RE Authorised service centre in faridabad,Swastik Motors. Believe me, the mechanics there don't know anything about the bullet. I have lodged a complaint with RE,and thet responded on the same day. If anyone needs RE customer service manager's cell number, do let me know. He has promised to get the bike done this saturday. Else shall take to it to the famous "Panditji" who has his workshop near YMCA college in faridabad.
	() Thanks

29th July 2008, 12:21	#8
Nilesh5417 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,807 Thanked: 2,595 Times	If you do come across someone who can really work on bullet electricals, click a picture and post it here! I'm yet to find someone inspite of going to tons of people who were recommended. Each could solve a solitary or a couple of problems but not one mech who could really fix the eletricals. But do what Rehaan said and it should help. The most common places to look for such shorts (and naked wires) are: 1. Under the rear mud gaurd since the tyre eats the wires running to the rear brake light assembly. 2. Under the seat, the most neglected area 3. In the side boxes, especially if you have additional/bigger horns, lights etc installed that required heavy changes to the wiring.
	() Thanks

2nd December 2009, 16:22	#9
zoom_vroom BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 262 Thanked: 52 Times	Hi Guys I am back at it again. Now everything is OK in the bike. Yesterday when i started my bike, it started in a single kick. I kept it idling for 2-3 minutes and then switched it off. Now when i try to start again, it just doesn't start. I get the kick feedback like one gets when you try to start the bike with Ignition switch in off position. All is OK, the battery is up, Neutral light glows bright but u sticll can't start my bike. Please help me guys. Thanks in advance,
	() Thanks

2nd December 2009, 19:39	#10
jingaboysr BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore, Cochin Posts: 270 Thanked: 19 Times	Did you check the spark plug if you are getting sparks when you kick?
	() Thanks

3rd December 2009, 07:13	#12
zoom_vroom BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 262 Thanked: 52 Times	Spark plug seems ok, but even in the evening i tried but could not start it. Shall try Grease Monk's suggesttion and let you guys know. Thanks a lot guys.
	() Thanks

3rd December 2009, 15:47	#13
jingaboysr BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore, Cochin Posts: 270 Thanked: 19 Times	I once had a problem of severe petrol overflow, to a point that my air filter actually started leaking petrol! I removed the spark plug and kept the hole open, and also did what GreaseMonk told, put petrol to off, hold decomp and full throttle and kick several times, and kept it like that the whole night, the next day morning it started without any problems. Also remember to switch off your choke.
	() Thanks

7th December 2009, 09:41	#14
zoom_vroom BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 262 Thanked: 52 Times	Thanks guys, finally managed to resolve the issue this weekend. Since the bike had been satnding for a long time, carburettor had smudge buildup and this led to the spark plug getting spoilt. Got the carburettor cleaned and a new spark plug installed. Works like a charm now. Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
	() Thanks

2nd July 2010, 14:20	#15
zoom_vroom BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 262 Thanked: 52 Times	Hi guys, reopening an old thread. I am unable to start my Bullet. All seems ok, the neutral light glows bright. But when i kick start it, it just doesn't start up. The sound i get i like the one when one tries to start with ignition off. Please give pointers for sorting out this issue. Thanks guys !
	() Thanks

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