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Old 23rd October 2008, 09:17   #16
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Now this FZ, its it basically a punched out Gladi engine or is it all new.

Sorry if I asked the same question already.
Its is from the gladiator block !!!
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Its is from the gladiator block !!!
Are you sure? I don't think it's a big block Gladi.
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Its is from the gladiator block !!!
BIKE magazine august 2008
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Baby Fazer spied....It will sport the same 150 engine as the R15 sans a lot of the tech gizmos and ofcourse a different state of tune.The oil cooled mill, mated too a 5 speed gear box will be tuned towards delivering more low end torque rather than high end performance...
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You made my work simpler but its actually October 08 issue of Bike India to be precise and page number 78 !!

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BIKE magazine august 2008 Baby Fazer spied....It will sport the same 150 engine as the R15 sans a lot of the tech gizmos and ofcourse a different state of tune.The oil cooled mill, mated too a 5 speed gear box will be tuned towards delivering more low end torque rather than high end performance...
Hmm...how is that possible. The bore and stroke is different, the block is different (Diasil) and the head is different 4v vs 2v, carb vs Fi. Only the bottom end could be the same. It would make more sense to base it on a Gladi engine.
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Hmm...how is that possible. The bore and stroke is different, the block is different (Diasil) and the head is different 4v vs 2v, carb vs Fi. Only the bottom end could be the same. It would make more sense to base it on a Gladi engine.
It is actually different from that we have in R15 !! A lot of people mistake it for the same engine without the cooling and things like that.

As per my knowledge the two are entirely different the R15 is about high revving and the FZ 16 is all about the low and mid range torque.
The yamaha has taken the market seriously
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Hmm...how is that possible. The bore and stroke is different, the block is different (Diasil) and the head is different 4v vs 2v, carb vs Fi. Only the bottom end could be the same. It would make more sense to base it on a Gladi engine.
Dont know, but that precisely what the mag states.
Probably that's what they mean by different tune ~i guess~

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You made my work simpler but its actually October 08 issue of Bike India to be precise and page number 78 !!
Even on the Oktober issue?
I have this August issue at home, with the green Ninja 250 cover. It's on page # 24 under ignition-new metal section, and it also points out the rider's executive shoes, fabric gloves & weird saree guard.
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Dont know, but that precisely what the mag states.
Probably that's what they mean by different tune ~i guess~


Even on the Oktober issue?
I have this August issue at home, with the green Ninja 250 cover. It's on page # 24 under ignition-new metal section, and it also points out the rider's executive shoes, fabric gloves & weird saree guard.
I am sorry actually we have been quoting two different sources which I mistook it for the same
The Oct issue features the FZ (red) doing a wheelie in the cover page. And almost a full test report is there the info is elaborate there and its different from R15 's block which were the rumors spread earlier !!

I hope I made the point clear !
Forget the weird saree guard, the bike features a hopeless frontal number plate.
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Hmm...how is that possible. The bore and stroke is different, the block is different (Diasil) and the head is different 4v vs 2v, carb vs Fi. Only the bottom end could be the same. It would make more sense to base it on a Gladi engine.

It has FI?

And no one at TBHP bought one yet?
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Dont think so FZ is Fi.
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Dont think so FZ is Fi.
R15 has FI, FZ runs on carb.
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FZ is fed by a Mikuni CV carb, probably a 26mm.

FZ is not based on a Gladi's engine. The crankcases look different and the bore and stroke numbers are different. FZ's crankcase has similarities with the R15's.

Would it be possible to replace the FZ's crank with the R15's ?
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FZ is fed by a Mikuni CV carb, probably a 26mm.

FZ is not based on a Gladi's engine. The crankcases look different and the bore and stroke numbers are different. FZ's crankcase has similarities with the R15's.

Would it be possible to replace the FZ's crank with the R15's ?
aha! if possible that will be a huge saving innit

hopefully joel will come along and answer that - he's just bought a new R15 recently.
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Would it be possible to replace the FZ's crank with the R15's ?
Talk this to the guys at Yam service centre and he'll definitely be game for some rocket science gyaan...
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FZ is fed by a Mikuni CV carb, probably a 26mm.

FZ is not based on a Gladi's engine. The crankcases look different and the bore and stroke numbers are different. FZ's crankcase has similarities with the R15's.

Would it be possible to replace the FZ's crank with the R15's ?
FZ is based in the same platform as the R15/Vixion series. The stroke is a bit shorter.
the head/cylinder and configuration is totally different.
So the crank cant be a straight swap, coz of difference in length of he con-rod, bearings etc. I even suspect the piston pin dia to be different.
Carb is the same BS26.
But what willu gain with an R15 crank, a few cc?
U rather save all that trouble and put a bigger piston. Bore/stroke ratio can get better.

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