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Old 4th November 2009, 21:09   #16
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Finally, a "Real Hot" FZ...if you know what i mean
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Old 4th November 2009, 21:13   #17
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A sleeper bike. This is one hell of a mod. Satpal, you did mention that the forks in the front went down a bit. How does the bike feel over bumps and the ubiquitous potholes? Also, what about the brakes?

Some other questions:
1. How legal is this thing?
2. How much did it cost? Heh heh ...
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Old 4th November 2009, 21:34   #18
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I would love to hear how this sounds. Please add a video here.
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Old 4th November 2009, 21:56   #19
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Sencible MOD. Great work.
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Finally that 140 rear tire gets the engine power it deserves.

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added a manifold that connects both exhaust pipes(underneath) into one, decreased the no of teeth on the rear sprocket and many other smaller mods.
Engine looks like its fitted neatly, however in a two stroke you should keep the two exhaust separate just like you see in the RD
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Old 4th November 2009, 22:30   #21
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Nice job indeed! And a neat one at that.
Would it be possible to have a sound clip/video to hear the exhaust notes?
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This is the Job of a neighbourhood mechanic,He had 2 RD350 engines at his disposal he rebuilt an engine with brand new sleeves from bangalore and standard ART pistons,modified the chasis of the FZ16 to fit RD's engine into it,modified the CDI unit,removed the cat converter out of the exhaust and increased the volume of exhaust pipes and added a manifold that connects both exhaust pipes(underneath) into one, decreased the no of teeth on the rear sprocket and many other smaller mods.
The bike sounds awesome and the growl is twice more meatier than a HT
and I got to ride it the next day after the rebuild so wasnt allowed to rev too much or even go above 60-70, but the bike is very smooth and handles like a normal FZ with loads and loads of more power,the front shocks went down about an inch because of the engines weight.
Dude, If am not wrong, is this bike done by Javed?
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Old 5th November 2009, 01:21   #23
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Dude, If am not wrong, is this bike done by Javed?
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No this is not Javeds bike , I have heard about his bike but havent seen it yet,
The owner of this bike is Rasee
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Old 5th November 2009, 01:24   #24
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> I do not have the pics of the Chasis modification
>Top speed of the bike is not known yet because the engine is new and has not been ripped
>The sound is much louder than an RD
>The decreased shocks height in the font does not affect the riding on pot holes or speed breakers
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Very interesting one.

First of all I would say the bike looks really great. I must say the job very well done.

I have the following concerns as I really doubt whether its engineered or just fitted.
  1. I really doubt the vehicle's handling now, considering the difference in the weight of the engine. You have already mentioned that the front shocks have already gone down due to the engine weight, in fact I expected the same thing, this will altogether give you a different riding characteristics now when it comes to turning.
  2. I doubt the entire weight distribution now ! this is important in an motorbike. The front brakes are mated to the bike to offer a characteristic.
  3. this guy must be really amazing to sort out the electricals, mainly the ignition and the lighting . But still I little skeptic about the reliability.
  4. the sprocket !! decreased the number ? are you sure he really thought about the drive ratios ?
  5. Is this kind of modification legal ? I absolutely have no clue. Emission and stuffs are to be thought about too

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Very interesting one.

First of all I would say the bike looks really great. I must say the job very well done.

I have the following concerns as I really doubt whether its engineered or just fitted.
  1. I really doubt the vehicle's handling now, considering the difference in the weight of the engine. You have already mentioned that the front shocks have already gone down due to the engine weight, in fact I expected the same thing, this will altogether give you a different riding characteristics now when it comes to turning.
  2. I doubt the entire weight distribution now ! this is important in an motorbike. The front brakes are mated to the bike to offer a characteristic.
  3. this guy must be really amazing to sort out the electricals, mainly the ignition and the lighting . But still I little skeptic about the reliability.
  4. the sprocket !! decreased the number ? are you sure he really thought about the drive ratios ?
  5. Is this kind of modification legal ? I absolutely have no clue. Emission and stuffs are to be thought about too
@rranjith_kum : Thanks for the comments buddy,

Handling > I did not get to ride the bike for long but the bike does a great job on initial pickup,Iam not very sure about the sharp turns and driving in traffic however the front shocks were later " adjusted " to return to their normal heights.
Weight Distribution > I do not think much thought has been put into this, the bike does feel a bit heavy but I guess the amount of power it puts out should hide this.
Electricals > I dont have point to point details on this however as per the builder the CDI is a " twin "(no idea),the self start doesnt work(obviously) and the lighting is better than a normal FZ.
Sprocket> The sprocket size was decreased because the upper end of the chain was getting elevated too much and the lower end went straight,so the adjustments were made looking at this.
Modification Legal > No Clue

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@rranjith_kum : Thanks for the comments buddy,

Handling > I did not get to ride the bike for long but the bike does a great job on initial pickup,Iam not very sure about the sharp turns and driving in traffic however the front shocks were later " adjusted " to return to their normal heights.
Weight Distribution > I do not think much thought has been put into this, the bike does feel a bit heavy but I guess the amount of power it puts out should hide this.
Electricals > I dont have point to point details on this however as per the builder the CDI is a " twin "(no idea),the self start doesnt work(obviously) and the lighting is better than a normal FZ.
Sprocket> The sprocket size was decreased because the upper end of the chain was getting elevated too much and the lower end went straight,so the adjustments were made looking at this.
Modification Legal > No Clue

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I was eagerly waiting to hear from you !

Electricals : I think he used the the escorts CDI kit which is a twin and should be available I suppose.
The bike features a DC lighting and this makes me think what way did he configure it ?
Ride: The front telescopes are the best, designed to offer the right damping that is what makes it delight during the acceleration and braking. Can you ask him what did he make to bring it back to the normal height.
Sprocket: One just should not go in that direction. I m worried about the final ratios. He has to think about the torque a RD engine can put out. Make some calculations and then decide all these.

This project makes me really very curious. Thanks in advance.
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I think this is 2nd FZ in Hydrabad with RD engine, nice mod only thing i am wooried about how a twin two stroke engine will perform in single four stroke pipe.Best will be some expansion chambers designed for RD engine to match FZ chasis.
I have one spare RD engine and ready to do some R n D if someone is ready to donate his FZ without engine in Bangalore.
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I think this is 2nd FZ in Hydrabad with RD engine, nice mod only thing i am wooried about how a twin two stroke engine will perform in single four stroke pipe.Best will be some expansion chambers designed for RD engine to match FZ chasis.
I have one spare RD engine and ready to do some R n D if someone is ready to donate his FZ without engine in Bangalore.
@Ajay > Good to see your reply mate,
The CAT-CON has been removed and the pipes have been widened or may be replaced with new ones(wider pipes) which add more volume to it look at the picture of the exhaust and you will notice the exhaust pipe end is much wider than a stock pipe,and yes you are right the twin cylinders deserve an expansion chamber each but i guess that has not been done due to the hassles involved and ofcourse the looks I guess
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I was eagerly waiting to hear from you !

Electricals : I think he used the the escorts CDI kit which is a twin and should be available I suppose.
The bike features a DC lighting and this makes me think what way did he configure it ?
Ride: The front telescopes are the best, designed to offer the right damping that is what makes it delight during the acceleration and braking. Can you ask him what did he make to bring it back to the normal height.
Sprocket: One just should not go in that direction. I m worried about the final ratios. He has to think about the torque a RD engine can put out. Make some calculations and then decide all these.

This project makes me really very curious. Thanks in advance.

@rranjith_kum
No buddy I am 100% sure it is not AutoEscorts CDI kit and yes the lighting DC,I will ask for more details on this
Shocks > Not really sure how he did that will check and answer you
Sprocket > Not much calculations involved but trial and error method havent hit top speeds on it but there is no compromise on the initial or mid .

-Satpal
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