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Originally Posted by nitin.rai I have owned multiple bikes (Yamaha rx 100, KB125, LML Select, Pulsar, RE TBTS) over the last 2 decades and heres my 2 cents. |
It would be interesting to hear how you rate the Bullet against the Rx100 and Pulsar in terms of ownership. The KB125, though fast, seemed to be a very unrefined bike when I rode it.
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Originally Posted by nitin.rai [i]First thing first - dont go by hear say; experience first hand. |
It's going to be an expensive experience, costing upwards a lakh.
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Originally Posted by nitin.rai It definitely needs a lil (just a lil) more attention like a leaking oil seal or a neutral amongst gears or the main stand not retracting unless kicked or not enough charge in the battery for the self. |
I thought a false neutral was a "feature" on the Bullet, not an "issue".
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Originally Posted by nitin.rai but i feel these are more of ignorance issues from Mr Lal and company rather than the product. |
Ultimately it affects the product, not just the company. I think RE is good at marketing a product which has limited outstanding qualities but a large number of flaws which could be fixed easily, but that's material for a separate thread.
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Originally Posted by nitin.rai An RE (low rpm, linear torque) is for a more relaxed riding suiting your riding habits. However; since you are looking for long distance riding; the order of preference should be TBTS (low & relaxed seating; comfortable saddle seat) > Electra / Std (relaxed seating) > classic (upright seating & horrible spring seat). |
Thanks for putting it so clearly. Not many recommend the TBTS for me considering my 5'-6" 58 kg frame.
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Originally Posted by nitin.rai The new engines are lighter, tractable, responsive & trouble-free compared to the CIs. My suggestion stay away from an old make unless pristinely restored & available from a trust worthy source. |
Delhi second-hand market is very shady, so I suppose I will be better off with a new one.
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Originally Posted by nitin.rai If niggles are what you dont like then stay away from the RE. An RE is like a partner - it needs love and attention. Most of the other current gens are like mates - they will run along without much ado. |
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Originally Posted by jeeva Ofcourse, the bullet is not a "fill it, shut it, forget it" bike like how they claim on a Boxer or a Splendor. |
All bikes need love and attention. The Pulsar needs one full day every 2nd-3rd month (or 6 months if you ride less like I do now) for every thing: service, chain, electricals, cleaning, wheel alignment etc etc. I give that time happily and have been rewarded with a "zero-downtime", "zero-stopping" experience. I know a lot of other Pulsars which have not been like that because of the owners taking the "fill-it, shut-it, forget-it" approach too far.
Most of my friends who bought their Indo-Jap bikes around my time and used them in "fill-it, shut-it, forget-it" mode are already done and through with their bikes. Those bikes are in no condition to be ridden anymore. They say it is because they have moved on to cars.
Mine is the only one which is in perfect running condition (except for a dented tank) even three years after my having "moved on" to the car and doing only 500-1000 km a year on the bike.
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Originally Posted by nitin.rai I too am in Delhi and currently ride a TBTS. PM me if you need any help. |
Thanks for your help, I am overwhelmed by the response of people wanting to help personally.
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Originally Posted by drsingh Financially RE does not make sense for running every day. |
My question is why? I drive my car for 17-19 kpl of diesel @ Rs 37.75/- per litre or Rs 2.10/- per kilometre. The bike will give me around 30 kpl of petrol @ Rs. 60.00/- per litre, which is also Rs 2.00/- per kilometre. It's not cheaper than the car but it is equivalent. If I drive 600 km every week, I can easily split it between the two vehicles and delay the service interval on either of them.
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Originally Posted by VW2010 The old CI engines these days are not just "buys" but investment with decent returns. I paid around 65 for my 500. I have seen similar condition bulls selling for close to 80-85K.
350cc in the worst of condition are sold at 25K. If you can get some running condition 350 at 25K it means you can spend another 30k and still break even if you plan to sell it. Great to own a CI engines now hehe |
I am aware of all the calculations, but I have figured even the second-hand route will cost me Rs 50,000/- and a lot of trouble on the paperwork front. In Delhi, it is impossible to ride a bike without getting stopped by the Police nowadays for checking the papers. I need to have a perfectly street-legal bike and owning a new one will always solve that problem easily.
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Originally Posted by lohithrao Its very easy to start a bull am talking about the CI here with a half kick you can start it, if the bike is tuned/timed properly.
I have hardly seen bulls leaking, this on a well maintained once and the once.
Bulls dont need to be serviced, both my bikes are serviced 6months once and trust me their is no reliability issue cause of that... |
Your perspective is that a Bull is as easy to own as any other bike if you maintain it properly.
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Originally Posted by jeeva Take my case: The first thing that I wanted to buy with my hard earned money (used to be paid peanuts..literally when I started off my career) was a bullet. I had absolutely zero knowledge about the machine. I got it not because I could afford it, but it was parked right in the head for a long time.
A mechanic here in Bangalore took me for a royal ride (details posted in another thread) to the tune of~25k. Learned the hard way and got the bike completely re-furbished from my hometown in kerala. |
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Originally Posted by roy_libran I started my career in Dec 2002, and bought the RETB in March 2003. |
I have similar feelings about my Pulsar, it was the first expensive thing I bought with my hard-earned money. I wish I could retain both bikes, but I hate to have things which I can't maintain. I haven't really been able to convince myself emotionally to let go of the Pulsar.
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Originally Posted by jeeva but the bullet (CI 350/500/535) is not everybody's cup of tea. |
So the CIs are not for everyone?
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Originally Posted by Daewood hey, you have company.
me too drive my 2 wheeler like that in maddening city roads where many drive as if they were a snake. |
Good to know that.
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Originally Posted by Daewood So me too caught in a dilemma between an used Bullet or a new-age 150kg comfortable bike like Hunk or Pulsar180 or FZ. |
The Hunk is more comfortable than the Pulsar. I can vouch for that.
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Originally Posted by NST440 Today is sunday and after writing this i am going to wash it, polish it, wear my helmet and glasses and go for a ride to a destination i still dont know |
I know that feeling. You've made me decide to go for a ride now as well.
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Originally Posted by NST440 As far as purchase decision is concerned, i would suggest you to look for a bike in good condition Electra or Std. 2005-06-07-08 model |
That's not easy to find. If they are there in good condition, their prices are too close to new one.