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Originally Posted by racer_m Are you deliberately keeping the Figo out of the discussion?
With 284 liters and a well spread out loading area, you certainly can stuff most of the weekend luggage. If that's not all then you have the official roof rails and carrier to stow away some more luggage.
And the highway dynamics with 5 people and full load(with so many putting down their experiences on the forum), the figo is a comfortable highway machine as well. |
I'm sorry! Yes, the Figo is a fantastic all-round vehicle too. It may have some niggles, but all cars do, don't they? I've heard from several people who own Figos that they're quite disappointed with it. However, the same can't be said by some of the reviews on Team BHP.
The Figo is nothing but a watered-down Fusion, I believe. And the Fusion was a fantastic car, and it still is. I think it is the best hatch ever sold in India. It's a pity that it bombed badly here.
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Originally Posted by Guna I don't think i10 has auto folding mirrors or auto-climate control.
Also, in terms of the power/performance, new kappa should match up to Brio. |
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Originally Posted by tejus.s Hi suhaas307, no offense mate, but I guess you need to revisit your post. The i10 has a strong engine and gearbox combination. I've not driven the Brio, but having driven the Hyundai (Kappa) for over 2 years now, I can vouch for it. It's fantastic, responsive and refined. Also, the quality of plastics, fabric used in the i10 are definitely top notch. I would rate them above the Swift/Ritz.
As far as after-sales is concerned, Hyundai has never let me down even once. Also, i10 does not come with auto-climate control even on the top-end. Please get your facts right.
In a nutshell, what I'd like to say is, let's wait for the Brio to be launched this month. It might sound premature trying to compare with other cars based on reviews. Recalls from Honda recently definitely do not help either.
Just my two cents |
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The engine and gearbox in the i10 is good, no doubt about it. It is quite refined and reliable. Plus, the Kappa does pack a punch. But it isn't as fun to drive as the more powerful and more balanced Brio. Although I haven't driven it, I'm sure I can believe reviews on Team BHP and other reliable sources like auto-magazines.
I'm familiar with the 1.2 engine in the Brio. It's the same engine that's in the Jazz. But what I'm not familiar with is the new 'improved' and reworked gear-ratios. Apparently, it has been tuned for city-driving which means better bottom-end grunt. However, according to the Team-BHP reviews, this car still likes to be revved to get the maximum, as in case with every Honda.
The i10 has the edge here. It would be the nippier city-car. The bottom-end power in the i10 is as good as it gets, giving it quick legs off the block. Something that the Brio doesn't have, unfortunately. Overall though, IMO, the Honda iVtec engine trumps the Hyundai Kappa engine. The 1.2 found in the Jazz and now in the Brio, is said to be one of the most refined and frugal units out there. Only Maruti's K-Series engines come very close, IMO.
I was under the impression that the i10 came with auto-climate-control. I remember it being shown in that ShahrukKhan advertisement. But I don't remember it clearly. I do remember that the sunroof is optional, or is it standard on the top-end? I'm not sure.
Hyundai has let me down every single time. I get a huge bill after a service and apart from clean and polished bumpers and a polished interior, I don't really see the difference. In fact, my Santro was given for service a few months back, and it has been very problematic, ever since I took delivery after service. Some thing or the other always comes up.
We have two Hondas at home. A Civic and a Jazz. Both have been trouble free and running like charms. Even the service bill isn't as exorbitant as Advaith Hyundai's.
The recalls are for the '09 models of the City and the Jazz. There seems to be a minor glitch in the power-window units. It isn't a major thing at all.
In a nut-shell, apart from the ride, I don't find anything wrong with the Brio. The ride is a bit stiff, apparently. Also, the lack of some essential features like rear-windscreen-wash/wipe is a shocker. My guess is that the later Brios will be equipped with the same, shortly.
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Originally Posted by samabhi Exactly my point, what makes it an all-round vehicle. If space is the only concern, then every body will be buying Vista. Its more about the quality,reliability and durability and above all the comfort ride.
I expect that Brio will definitely live up to the hype it has garnered. |
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Originally Posted by pravingmh How well does the deep boot play with foldable seats, in terms of trying to accomodate larger flat packages? |
I'm going to be honest with you here. It isn't as versatile as some of the other hatchbacks around, but it can still accommodate quite a lot of luggage with the seats folded. The deep boot allows one to neatly pack in a tote bag or similar luggage in the boot area, and with the seat folded, one can accommodate larger items on top of the boot area.
The availability of a parcel tray is essential. I'm not sure which level the parcel tray might be fitted, but if it can be moved downwards, it would be a good thing as it would be the same level as the folded seats, enabling you to stow away your backpack in the deep boot while allowing you to pack in crates, or whatever else needs to be placed in the back.