Team-BHP > Team-BHP Reviews > Official New Car Reviews


Reply
  Search this Thread
2,800,753 views
Old 27th January 2020, 14:51   #1981
BHPian
 
d3mon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 914
Thanked: 4,074 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by iliketurtles View Post
Yes, I'd agree with that. It's just that they provide greater feel higher up in the pedal, but stopping power on the BMWs is certainly better. I had to adjust slightly to the fact that initial bite wasn't as strong when I switched from the Jetta to the 3. I reckon braided steel lines and fresh brake fluid would change that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dealer View Post
Both the 320i and 320d have the same brakes. I've had a similar incident and the BMW did not disappoint, i agree the car feels solid under heavy braking. I'm just looking for good initial bite when braking.
I think part of the reason why the braking "feels" not as strong is that BMW has fit significant amount of "anti-dive" in the suspension. They even mention this explicitly in their product brochure.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...36739EN/209106

Front suspension: Aluminium double-joint spring-strut axle with displaced camber, small positive
steering roll radius, transverse force compensation, anti-dive


When you brake in a regular car, the entire front end dives as the weight shifts to the front, but with anti dive geometry in the front suspension, this is reduced to a great extent. I guess our bodies are not quite as sensitive to small G forces as they are to vertical displacement that happens during dive, which is what causes a sensation of weaker than expected brake bite.



It's another matter that when you slam down hard on the brakes, the car retains it's composure and stops really well.
d3mon is offline   (10) Thanks
Old 27th January 2020, 15:12   #1982
Senior - BHPian
 
iliketurtles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Titwala
Posts: 1,507
Thanked: 4,834 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by dealer View Post
Any recommendations on dealers in Delhi or Mumbai? I looked through the team-bhp directory and couldn't find anything. I've decided on the EBC Drilled and Slotted Rotors with the Yellowstuff brake pads, accompanied with the MG Flasher Stage 1 Tune that im planning to get i should be set to handle the extra power.
GTO shared details on his 530d thread of trustworthy guys, I'm going to quote him on this, and vouch for AKD Automotive personally, as I bought my EBCs from them.

My advice: don't go for drilled rotors. The pads will wear away faster, and it's not that advantageous for non-track use, even if it is aesthetically very appealing. Get slotted discs, coupled with the EBCs. You'll be completely sorted. I'll be going for an identical setup once my pads wear out in 7-8 months.

Quote:
I would trust AKD Automotive (talk to Akshay on 9819917829), Sunil Shanbagh (Dadar) or Ajay Parekh (Walkeshwar).
iliketurtles is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 7th February 2020, 12:56   #1983
BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Delhi NCR
Posts: 126
Thanked: 60 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Recently changed both (front and rear) discs and pads from BMW infinity cars, Delhi. They did a good job and the customer service was excellent.
Fstlndrive is offline  
Old 7th February 2020, 13:39   #1984
Team-BHP Support
 
graaja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Coimbatore
Posts: 3,184
Thanked: 20,567 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fstlndrive View Post
Recently changed both (front and rear) discs and pads from BMW infinity cars, Delhi. They did a good job and the customer service was excellent.
Can you please share the cost breakup for this job (cost of pads, discs and labor) ?

Thanks in advance
graaja is offline  
Old 7th February 2020, 20:50   #1985
BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Delhi NCR
Posts: 126
Thanked: 60 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by graaja View Post
Can you please share the cost breakup for this job (cost of pads, discs and labor) ?

Thanks in advance
The car has run around 34000 kms. All were changed under BSI plus. All are charged to BMW. I paid none.

Front brakes:
Discs 2 - INR 20,275
Brake pad we 1 - INR 1987
Repair kit 1 - 12,515
Labour - INR 2409

Total: Including other nuts and servicing brakes and IGST - INR 48,629

Rear brakes:
Discs 2 - INR 18,246
Repair kit - INR 8905
Brake pad - INR 2318
Labour - INR 2409

Total: Including other nuts and servicing brakes and IGST - INR 41,550
Fstlndrive is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 8th February 2020, 09:38   #1986
BHPian
 
Kelly66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 97
Thanked: 79 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fstlndrive View Post
The car has run around 34000 kms. All were changed under BSI plus. All are charged to BMW. I paid none.
Was this your first change? Do we need to change the brake disc when pads are changed? I thought discs last longer unless one gets very close to it.
Kelly66 is offline  
Old 8th February 2020, 09:54   #1987
Team-BHP Support
 
graaja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Coimbatore
Posts: 3,184
Thanked: 20,567 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fstlndrive View Post
The car has run around 34000 kms. All were changed under BSI plus. All are charged to BMW. I paid none.

Front brakes:
Discs 2 - INR 20,275
Brake pad we 1 - INR 1987
Repair kit 1 - 12,515
Labour - INR 2409

Total: Including other nuts and servicing brakes and IGST - INR 48,629

Rear brakes:
Discs 2 - INR 18,246
Repair kit - INR 8905
Brake pad - INR 2318
Labour - INR 2409

Total: Including other nuts and servicing brakes and IGST - INR 41,550
Was this the first brake pad change? Usually, the discs are changed only every 2nd brake pad change. It is strange that you had to change the discs at 34K kilometers. But with a disc change, you will get the most out of the money you paid for the BSI+

I have taken a 3 year / 40K kilometers BSI+. The front brake pads were changed around the 20K kilometers mark. The rear pads have come up for replacement now at 34K kilometers. But no need for discs yet.
graaja is offline  
Old 9th February 2020, 13:54   #1988
BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Delhi NCR
Posts: 126
Thanked: 60 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelly66 View Post
Was this your first change? Do we need to change the brake disc when pads are changed? I thought discs last longer unless one gets very close to it.
Yes, it was the first change. Somehow, when the technician tested, disc also needed a change.

Quote:
Originally Posted by graaja View Post
Was this the first brake pad change? Usually, the discs are changed only every 2nd brake pad change. It is strange that you had to change the discs at 34K kilometers. But with a disc change, you will get the most out of the money you paid for the BSI+

I have taken a 3 year / 40K kilometers BSI+. The front brake pads were changed around the 20K kilometers mark. The rear pads have come up for replacement now at 34K kilometers. But no need for discs yet.
Yes, this was first change. Somehow the idrive showed that the pads need to be changed only around 34K kms. When the technician checked, the disc also required replacement.

In your car, did the sensors show to change the pads around 20K kms?

The idrive of my car shows that next change will be after 50,000 kms.

Last edited by suhaas307 : 24th April 2020 at 01:31. Reason: Spacing
Fstlndrive is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 17th March 2020, 17:32   #1989
Distinguished - BHPian
 
drmohitg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Liverpool/Delhi
Posts: 5,439
Thanked: 7,539 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Are the rear seats foldable on the F30? I couldn't spot any mechanism for the same. Had to carry a longish item and so was wondering if it can fit in the 3 series or will need to borrow a friend's car.
drmohitg is offline  
Old 17th March 2020, 20:21   #1990
BHPian
 
d3mon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 914
Thanked: 4,074 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by drmohitg View Post
Are the rear seats foldable on the F30? I couldn't spot any mechanism for the same. Had to carry a longish item and so was wondering if it can fit in the 3 series or will need to borrow a friend's car.
Not foldable on our cars.
d3mon is offline   (3) Thanks
Old 14th April 2020, 22:15   #1991
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 245
Thanked: 621 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by anb View Post
Front Brake pads of my car have been replaced three times and front discs once in 55000 km.
This happens if you don't have the brakes washed/cleaned regularly. The minute you see brake dust (looks grayish black soot) on your rims/alloys, it is time for a pressure wash. Pressure washing the brakes and under chassis always saves you in the long run. Brake dust has to be removed so that it does not start eating into the rotors and brakes themselves. Any brake dust between the brake pads and the rotors will eventually start "eating" into the rotors and brake pads because of cyclic heat and pressure.

Under chassis wash also helps remove dirt or grime that settles on suspension which have rubber part attached to it, i.e, lower arms, shock absorber boot cover, etc. These start "eating'' the rubber seals and shock absorbers start failing. The dirt starts to harden the rubber and it fails eventually.

I've clocked approx 52k km on the 2015 Duster and 18k km on the 2017 GT TSI with no brake pad change till date. Just regular service and regular under chassis washing.

On my then 2010 Polo 1.2 TDI, I had clocked approx 73k km before I sold it. I had changed the front pads and rear brake liner only once. That's how much of a difference regular pressure washing makes. Along with being judicious with the brakes. Of course, I was not sure if the buyer would be as diligent with it so I informed him to change the rotors and brake pads after 8-10k km to be on the safer side.

I changed only the front brake pad from stock to Brembo just because I thought it was cooler. But boy was I wrong! I don't know if these are original pads or not but there is a crazy amount of brake squeal. So the F30 gets a more frequent pressure wash compared to the Duster and GT TSI. The brake dust accumulation is also higher on the F30. Once I wear them out, I will shift back to the original pads.

Last edited by vishwasvr : 14th April 2020 at 22:29.
vishwasvr is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 16th April 2020, 18:03   #1992
anb
BHPian
 
anb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Idukki
Posts: 816
Thanked: 3,172 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by vishwasvr View Post
This happens if you don't have the brakes washed/cleaned regularly.
I don't pressure wash brakes since I am afraid of getting the abs sensor damaged. I also have 2 polo GT's and rotor of one car was replaced twice ( 20k and 60 k.) and the other one is running on big brake kit

Last edited by anb : 16th April 2020 at 18:07.
anb is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 16th April 2020, 18:49   #1993
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 245
Thanked: 621 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Quote:
Originally Posted by anb View Post
I don't pressure wash brakes since I am afraid of getting the abs sensor damaged. I also have 2 polo GT's and rotor of one car was replaced twice ( 20k and 60 k.) and the other one is running on big brake kit
Yes, what I meant is pressure wash it from a distance. Don’t have to go too close to the wheel. About 3-4 feet is safe enough. I use an industrial grade washer (Kaercher 7/17) and I stand about 5 feet away since the water pressure is approximately 170 bar and it gets cleaned.
vishwasvr is offline  
Old 20th April 2020, 15:12   #1994
BHPian
 
d3mon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 914
Thanked: 4,074 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Just for fun - a comparison of

F30 320d Stage 1
F30 330i Stock
F10 530d Stock

https://viewsync.net/watch?v=N7ZuH4f...t=13&mode=solo

The remapped 320d is every bit as fast as the 530d until ~180kmph, while the 330i takes the lead after 110-120 kmph.
d3mon is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 23rd April 2020, 16:53   #1995
BHPian
 
dealer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: jaipur
Posts: 199
Thanked: 786 Times
re: BMW 320d & 328i (F30) : Official Review

Hey guys,

After using a vin decoder online I noticed that my F30 LCI 320i had the option -
S858 - Low Compression Engine

I couldn't find much info regarding this option and was wondering what difference it made in terms of power. Previously when the car came with the N20 series of engines, the S858 variant shared the same pistons between the 320i and the 328i. Can fellow 320i/328i/330i owners check if they have the same option when using a vin decoder? Does the option mean that running a higher Octane of fuel wouldn't make a difference?

Last edited by Akshay1234 : 23rd April 2020 at 17:35. Reason: spacing
dealer is offline  
Reply

Most Viewed
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks