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Originally Posted by Tats07 (Post 3339870)
Same here. I spoke to Whitefield Honda. These only have diesel vehicles for test drive. The SA tells me that not only deliveries, but even test drives for petrol vehicles are not available before Feb/March. I'm surprised. I know the engine is nearly the same, but Honda actually expects people to book petrols without a TD?!

No offence meant, but I'm kinda exasperated with this diesel demand and push, even though it may be for the right reasons. If one asks for a Vento TSI TD, the SAs say the TDI is a better vehicle, and one 'should' TD that instead of TSI!

Feb/March is too much of a wait I believe. We may even get our vehicle delivered before the TD vehicle arrives!(I have no idea when deliveries will start for petrol City) May be Honda is banking on the fact that many people loved the engine in 3rd gen and by keeping the same engine people needn't TD petrol City. I thought of booking the petrol City this sat. But now I'm in two minds.

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Originally Posted by Tats07 (Post 3339870)
If one asks for a Vento TSI TD, the SAs say the TDI is a better vehicle, and one 'should' TD that instead of TSI!

+1 to that. The Volkswagen Palace Cross SA asked me to TD diesel Vento saying both diesel and petrol offer the same output. It was only when I insisted that I want to TD petrol vehicle did he get the vehicle out.

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Originally Posted by anand89 (Post 3340020)
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Feb/March is too much of a wait I believe. We may even get our vehicle delivered before the TD vehicle arrives!(I have no idea when deliveries will start for petrol City) May be Honda is banking on the fact that many people loved the engine in 3rd gen and by keeping the same engine people needn't TD petrol City. I thought of booking the petrol City this sat. But now I'm in two minds.

Do not book without a TD. You have a right to that, regardless of the number of times you may have driven the earlier version with the same engine and similar output/torque. I'm particularly interested in low RPM response, and the ride/handling. I was not very happy with the earlier generation on these counts, and it seems from GTO's review that there's been some improvement in these areas.

I drove a friend's Brio last evening, and was very happy with the way the vehicle responded at slightest input of throttle. The steering felt good too - it felt very nice to drive even in a short try. I need to feel at least close to that sort of a drive in the new City before I think of booking.

For all you know, a petrol TD vehicle may arrive in next couple of weeks - I have a feeling it will. I NEVER believe SAs. :)

I'd visited Dakshin Honda, Hosur Road, Bangalore, to evaluate the Honda City. I am disappointed by the looks of the bonnet lid, as pointed out in the review, is "naked" and the cables are clearly visible.

This reminded me of the dialog in the movie, Star Wars "The Phantom Menace" where one robot asks the other, "Why are you naked?" - Sorry, I don't recall the character names. :D

The brake cables are also pretty much visible which I feel should have been neatly tucked to avoid any damages on rough/wet stretches. The joints on the doors also look poor. They could have drastically improved the structural quality.

The looks are definitely stunning, especially the interior.

As for Dakshin Honda, they're the same as six years ago - the don't care attitude! :D

And when you are TD'ing the vehicle, if possible check the air pressure of the tyres. When I TD'ed the Brio, I had a feeling that the pressure was way too high as I had a pretty bumpy ride, unfortunately I could not get it checked.

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Originally Posted by Tats07 (Post 3340088)
Do not book without a TD. You have a right to that, regardless of the number of times you may have driven the earlier version with the same engine and similar output/torque.

For all you know, a petrol TD vehicle may arrive in next couple of weeks - I have a feeling it will. I NEVER believe SAs. :)

Thanks for your advice. Will have a look at the display car this week and book the vehicle only after a TD. I really hope that the petrol TD vehicle arrives in a couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by SumitBahl (Post 3339522)
Pedals are Rs. 3500.:

Is it complete pedal or just pedal cover. For my EcoSport, the pedal cover for ABC came fir just 525 and the quality is really good

Finally booked a VMT Petrol Taffeta White Today. The delivery would be by March :(

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Originally Posted by FarPatel (Post 3339919)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see much point in checking if the car clears the speed breakers at an angle. Can you ever do this without hearing a loud objection from the motorist just behind you? Also, the toll plazas, at least here in Mumbai and on the way to Pune, have multiple speed breakers and their lanes are just wide enough for a car. There's no way we can hit the breakers at an angle in actual fact. Further, I think there are less odds of the lower suspension mountings hitting the breaker if you tackle it head on, since they will ride up along with both wheels as one unit.

That's true. However, I wasn't too confident to take on the speed breakers head on. I hope someone does that and updates how capable the City is with its new raised ground clearance.

Apologies if this is a repeated posting. I have received the price list from one of the dealers in Delhi and the same is attached for your reference.

Here is the road tax on ex-showroom for Karnataka:

less than 5 Lakhs: 12%
between 5 and 10 Lakhs: 13%
more than 10 Lakhs: 16%

In addition to this, there is a 10% CESS on the road tax (not on the ex-showroom price).

source: http://www.rto.kar.nic.in/feestaxcss.html

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Originally Posted by swiftnfurious (Post 3338282)
Edit:: A very bad time for Ford to increase Ecosport's price. As a sensible buyer, I would NO way touch an Ecosport over City, unless Honda jacks up the price the same way. Except the high seating & GC, I do NOT see anything favouring Ford's kid now!!

AFAIK Ecosport has got a waiting period of 5 months+. Ideal time for them to cash in some money. We all know Inevitable- Every manufacturer has to offer discounts, so higher price comes handy there also lol:. Expect a mouth watering discount as sales start to dwindle.

All in all I see a perfect stratey by Ford to milk it's cash cow:D

Did any BHPians from Bangalore had an opportunity to do a test drive? If yes which dealer it was and how crowded the showroom was during your visit?Appreciate if any one can shed some light on this.

Cheers!

Any idea when they are starting delivery for Diesel cars in Bangalore ? I went to Magnum Honda in Mekhri circle and the SA said it will only be by month end.

Also they dont have vehicles for test drive yet (expected by weekend only):Frustrati plus the only model on display was out of battery :Shockked: and hence could not see much of the features..

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Originally Posted by RavenAvi (Post 3338409)
Here's a look at the price-wise comparison of all sedans and their variants in the C2 segment.

Improved on this previously posted chart, since Volkswagen India hiked prices across all it's models from January 2014 onwards, and Skoda India added some new variants of the Rapid.

In addition to all the sedans in the C2 lineup, I also added the Scala/Sunny twins and the Ford EcoSport as well. Even though the Sunny & the EcoSport have petrol variants which are more than a lakh cheaper than the others variant-wise, their diesel variants are almost a match across the range. Makes for an interesting comparison.

Prices have been taken from the respective official company websites, except for Volkswagen Vento whose updated prices are taken from gaadi.com.

Added the prices of the outgoing 3rd Gen City for reference as well. All prices mentioned are ex-showroom, Delhi.

(Click on the table to open in a separate window)

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Dear BHP'ians,
  1. How would you compare the NVH, ride & handling of the Scala/Sunny vs the new Honda City diesel?

    Our main use case is long highway rides with a nuclear family

cheers,


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