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Even though it’s a year late, here’s a nice article about all four generations of the City by ACI.

https://www.autocarindia.com/auto-fe...r-citys-407195

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Originally Posted by fordfreak (Post 4702566)
Anyone here facing issues with rust? Especially near the rear wheel arches / rear rocker panel area? My car had rust repair carried out by the dealer under extended warranty and it has reappeared. The car is still under extended warranty till Feb-2020.

Also, has anyone observed their steering wheel develop white-ish spots with use?. Will share a picture of my issue shortly. Any inputs / views would be appreciated.

Edit: My car is a Feb-2016 VX-MT i-VTEC.

Apologies for the delay, but here are the pictures as promised.

Steering Wheel:-
4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-img_0081.jpg

RHS Rear Quarter / Rocker / Wheel Arch area:-
4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-img_0082.jpg
4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-img_0083.jpg
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LHS Rear Rocker / Wheel Arch area:-
4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-img_0085.jpg

can the existing ICE be changed to Digipad 2.0? Is Digipad 2.0 ICE offered as an accessory

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Originally Posted by fordfreak (Post 4711768)
Also, has anyone observed their steering wheel develop white-ish spots with use?. Will share a picture of my issue shortly. Any inputs / views would be appreciated.

Mine Nov 2015 City VX MT iVTEC steering wheel also has similar white spots (though they are less pronounced). Still it does not look good.
It was earlier being used by my father. Could be because of ring rubbing against the steering wheel?
I have not found fix for it as yet other than getting a steering wheel cover.

Thanks.

Need an advice. Looking for a petrol car with an ownership of a decade.

Today went to a Honda Showroom and enquired for Jazz VX MT and WRV VX MT.

They don't have both so tried for the Jazz VX CVT and City SV MT (P)

Jazz VX CVT they are offering at 9 Lakhs + my 11 year old swift in return (80k valuation) and City SV MT for 10.3 Lakhs + swift in exchange.

Jazz is highly practical for Mumbai and with all bells and whistles whereas City too has everything apart from the touch screen.

Please put your thoughts and help me decide.

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Originally Posted by VWAllstar (Post 4717128)
Jazz VX CVT they are offering at 9 Lakhs + my 11 year old swift in return (80k valuation) and City SV MT for 10.3 Lakhs + swift in exchange. Please put your thoughts and help me decide.

As you've said go for the Jazz CVT. It's a boon in traffic, but if you're a big family and travel together City makes sense try the CVT, since you're going to keep the car for a decade it think bigger would be better CVT is a boon given today's traffic.

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Originally Posted by VWAllstar (Post 4717128)
Need an advice. Looking for a petrol car with an ownership of a decade.

Jazz is highly practical for Mumbai and with all bells and whistles whereas City too has everything apart from the touch screen.

Please put your thoughts and help me decide.

City all the way, eyes closed. I own both the City and the Brio currently and while the 1.2 iVTEC is a sweet engine by itself, the 1.5 iVTEC is in a different league. And i am not just talking about the numbers on paper and top end power, i am talking about low end responsiveness which i find to be stellar in the City. Lot more fun to drive, leaving aside practical considerations such as boot space , cabin space and overall comfort.

The City is being offered at a.minimal cost increment over the Jazz so go for it without second thoughts - you will not regret it.

Let me just say for starters, I have a particular OCD for keeping my cars right, drive them moderately and let go of them fairly early. I had a couple of cars in the past the Millicento, multiple 800s (one still remains - '03 @ 33k current), the jelly bean carbueretted Zen, Maruti Alto, my precious Nano XTA (current), Hyundai Verna Transform, Hyundai Creta (current) and the recent 80 day old Honda City VMT (current). Now if you observe closely, the cars in the past have had particularly good reviews either in terms of the body or even the reliability. Enough said, the research I did made me exchange my Verna for the City, but little did I realize I ended up with a tin box.

The day I got the City delivered from the Dakshin Honda Magrath Road branch was heaven's day and it poured cats and dogs in Bangalore. The whole delivery process itself was weird uneventful and emotionless if you ask. Possibly because I've been through the drill multiple times earlier and this was yet another one. But this was rather special, a gift for my wife - she loved the City endlessly. The car I brought home was a disaster - issues with the lights, seat covers, alignment and many more. Let me just stop here. It's way too much to type and I rather speak at length about the whole sales experience and the rogue salesman at Dakshin Honda.

Now, to ensure parking for this car at home, I had to break one part of the compound wall and get an additional gate fitted so I could plug this car inside as well. This would ensure that rogue pedestrians with evil minds with the agenda of damaging cars would not harm this one. I didn't realize though that the new gate itself would prove to be the evil master. While backing my car in, the multiple fold in the gate was not be clearly visible in the rear view cam and a slight move in reverse made me hit the gate. Nothing major or so I thought, but then I see this!!! I was shocked. My Nano, Verna, 800 have been through enough in their lives and never did they show this amount of wear. My goodness, it hurt - a new car, gift for wife, new gate. "Ridiculous" was my first impression of the build quality of the City. I wouldn't want to complain of the AFE, since I'm getting about 9 km/l in the city of Bangalore. Possibly because the car had run ~ 800 km in 2 months. Yesterday, wife and I decided to drive down to Chennai for lunch at Annalakshmi and head back to Bangalore. Call us nuts, I'd tend to agree a tad. I love the food there. Along with the ambiance, it just makes me smile. The set menu is way ahead of that in Masala Klub or K&K in Bangalore. That aside. While heading back to Bangalore, we were waiting patiently in line at the Krishnagiri toll to see some anti-social elements squeeze through cars in the opposite direction. As they headed towards mine, I peed in my pants hoping and praying they would leave my car alone - which they did. But, their Honda Activa did the job well. The squeeze through hit my front RH fender making a sound. I presumed it to be the mirror and when i checked, it looked all good. Thank Heavens. As I glided through the Fastag lane, which turned green and went past the RFID detector, a huge thud was felt over my head. Shocked, I simply slammed the brakes and got out of the car to see what had happened. The damned boom gate for some reason banged the roofline causing a dent. Furious, I went to the guy inside the booth and asked and his reply was - it turned green, you should've waited but you decided to go through. That's why the boom gate fell. As he finished saying what he had to, he couldn't care less and went on to billing the next guy. Really, no point arguing with such people, who have no value for other's things. the rogues earlier, the lesser said the better. This morning as I went to check the car, I saw the dent(s) and was shocked. A minor scrape through of a bike leading to such a dent is horrendous. Speaks volumes of the quality of this tin can called the Honda City.

No cribs or qualms about the performance. It is a pleasure to drive on the highway. High speeds? No problem. Great ABS, ESC etc. But the quality remains poor. Considering the traffic in Bangalore now, I'm considering selling off the 80 day old City and going for anther new car. Just too scared to keep this delicate darling anymore.

I have driven enough in the other cars. The Creta does the job of my highway travel and its sole purpose is only that. But, this City is a whole new story.

Pics below. How expensive do you believe getting the bumper, RH fender and the roof fixed would be and is it worth claiming insurance in the first 90 days itself? My second service @ 3 months is due in the next 10 days and I rather get this thing done up along with the service too tomorrow itself.

4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-roof-rail.jpg

4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-rf-fender.jpg

4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-rf-fender-2.jpg

4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-rf-fender-1.jpg

4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-rear-bumper.jpg

4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-rear-bumper-2.jpg

4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-rear-bumper-1.jpg

4th-gen Honda City : Official Review-gate.jpg

That is indeed a sad thing to happen to any new car. Honda has really been most disappointing when it comes to build quality and QC of late. Another BHPian’s City has started showing rust in the wheel arches (see above). Wish you all the best for getting a speedy solution.

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Originally Posted by akshays (Post 4719352)
Considering the traffic in Bangalore now, I'm considering selling off the 80 day old City and going for anther new car. Just too scared to keep this delicate darling anymore.

I have driven enough in the other cars. The Creta does the job of my highway travel and its sole purpose is only that. But, this City is a whole new story.

Pics below. How expensive do you believe getting the bumper, RH fender and the roof fixed would be and is it worth claiming insurance in the first 90 days itself? My second service @ 3 months is due in the next 10 days and I rather get this thing done up along with the service too tomorrow itself.

Honda city does have thin sheet metal however in the incidents you mentioned above, most of the car would have shown similar results. I recall dent on my Vento's fender when two wheeler pillion's knee hit. Though he sped away, I am sure he had a cracked knee and I had dented fender.
I doubt if insurance provider will cover all three repair, as most providers insist on repairing only latest accident one at a time. I would suggest get rear bumper and pillar dent removed at a FNG . You can try dealership or FNG for fender repair as well. From my personal experience, specialist garage do a better job than authorized dealership when it comes to painting.

Bumper painting-2k
Pillar repair/painting-2K
Fender painting- 3-4K.

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Originally Posted by PrideRed (Post 4719381)
Honda city does have thin sheet metal however in the incidents you mentioned above, most of the car would have shown similar results. I recall dent on my Vento's fender when two wheeler pillion's knee hit. Though he sped away, I am sure he had a cracked knee and I had dented fender.
I doubt if insurance provider will cover all three repair, as most providers insist on repairing only latest accident one at a time. I would suggest get rear bumper and pillar dent removed at a FNG . You can try dealership or FNG for fender repair as well. From my personal experience, specialist garage do a better job than authorized dealership when it comes to painting.

Bumper painting-2k
Pillar repair/painting-2K
Fender painting- 3-4K.

Thanks. I am not very convinced with approaching an FNG for a brand new car. I had the bumper and fender repaired in Dakshin Honda itself and it cost me 9,250 bucks. Expensive darn!

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Originally Posted by akshays (Post 4719398)
Thanks. I am not very convinced with approaching an FNG for a brand new car. I had the bumper and fender repaired in Dakshin Honda itself and it cost me 9,250 bucks. Expensive darn!

That's a standard rate with authorised service center. Each part is quoted around 4-5K. Some nuthead had dented my Kwid's door's and authorized center gave me a quote of 22K including replacing a door(which costs 5.2K). I claimed insurance. The final finish is just okay, they could have done a better job.

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Originally Posted by TheHelix0202 (Post 4719373)
That is indeed a sad thing to happen to any new car. Honda has really been most disappointing when it comes to build quality and QC of late. Another BHPian’s City has started showing rust in the wheel arches (see above). Wish you all the best for getting a speedy solution.

What was the solution offered by Honda ? Tinkering , painting anda dose of anti rust claimed under warranty ?

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Originally Posted by PrideRed (Post 4719400)
Some nuthead had dented my Kwid's door's and authorized center gave me a quote of 22K including replacing a door(which costs 5.2K). I claimed insurance. The final finish is just okay, they could have done a better job.

Skoda guys quoted 20k for a dent on the RHS passenger door (replace the door, they said). Claimed insurance. 22k for the Kwid is too high, no? :deadhorse

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Originally Posted by akshays (Post 4719408)
What was the solution offered by Honda ? Tinkering , painting anda dose of anti rust claimed under warranty ?

Please PM fordfreak (post #6752) on this same page.

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Originally Posted by TheHelix0202 (Post 4719422)
Skoda guys quoted 20k for a dent on the RHS passenger door (replace the door, they said). Claimed insurance. 22k for the Kwid is too high, no? :deadhorse

Indeed is high, 5.2K for brand new door, 12K for painting two doors and labour. I did not bother to argue as I had claimed insurance(zero dep).


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