Team-BHP - 4th-gen Honda City : Official Review

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Originally Posted by car_guy1998 (Post 5804736)

...gave our 2014 Honda City iDTEC for 1,80,000 Kms service ... got the timing kit replaced along oil seals and radiator.

..got the new set of clutch along with master slave cylinder ...

The bill I got is close to a lac

....thinking whether to sell off this car or retain even after we get its replacement and retain as a 3rd car ....
few folks I know, who advised me against selling off this car.

You seem to have already replaced all big ticket parts, except the power steering rack, fuel injectors, alternator and fuel pump.
If the Honda service can check and confirm that the above parts are in good condition, then you're good to go for another few years to recover the ROI on your spending :)

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Originally Posted by for_cars1 (Post 5819404)

Had replaced the power steering rack during suspension overhaul itself 2 years ago.

Btw, the car has completed 1,88,000 Kms few days ago and I can see some drop in FE even after getting serviced and getting the EGR cleaned.

I think I should do a highway run in order to see the increase in FE.

A new 4th gen Honda City owner - replaced my trusted Ecosport with a preowned 7 yo City VX last month. The vehicle has done 18k km only and passed with a clean chit for quality at Honda service station. There are a couple of issues I'm facing and wondering if these are normal for the City.

1) At every ignition on in the morning (first time of the day) the motor revs at 1200-1300 rpm (without the AC on) in neutral and continues to do so at every gear. I haven't noticed when it comes back to revving at 1000 rpm but it does after a few minutes of driving. Is this normal?

2) Down shifting to first gear is very tight - almost as though the motor doesnt want to be slotted into Gear 1.

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Originally Posted by Seshadri Kannan (Post 5819795)

I will try to answer both as per my experience with my petrox Swift VWi ( point #1) and Honda City diesel (point #2)

#1 There is a way to manually increase RPM. I noticed during a PUC testing, where the guy increased the RPM to get a reading. Can you check with the service person, if this has been done to your car for a different purpose

#2 My City iDtec too struggles to be downshifted into 1st. Its difficult to slot it in. I rarely downshifted except for the occasional hill climb or a steep hair pin incline in the last 9 years. However, downshifting was never an issue as even during a routine traffic stop, it comfortable used to roll from 2nd gear. However, it gasps for breath now

Hope this helps

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Originally Posted by Raghav96 (Post 5830255)

...4th gen city is making a rather annoying rattle and I am unable to reproduce it in front of service center guys(it has a mind of its own, rattles irrespective of road condition and stops on its own)
kindly help .

That sound is not due to the blower motor.

It is being produced by the faulty/worn out HVAC air blend actuator, a small black plastic box costing about 2K including labor as I recall.
The sound will occur depending on the mood of the worn out HVAC actuator whether the blower is on or off.
There is no need to remove the dashboard as this HVAC actuator can be easily accessed below the dashboard and its a 5 minute job.

Please get this HVAV air blend actuator replaced at a Honda service center with an original part. and the sound will be gone for good.:thumbs up

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Originally Posted by Seshadri Kannan (Post 5819795)

1) At every ignition on in the morning (first time of the day) the motor revs at 1200-1300 rpm (without the AC on) in neutral and continues to do so at every gear. I haven't noticed when it comes back to revving at 1000 rpm but it does after a few minutes of driving. Is this normal?

Completely normal for a cold start in a petrol engine. When it runs up to operating temperature, it will settle. There are multiple reasons for this high idle during starting, the engine itself requires a richer fuel mixture when cold and the catalytic converter needs to warm up quickly to do its job of reducing emissions.

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Originally Posted by car_guy1998 (Post 5804736)

Recently, gave our 2014 Honda City iDTEC for 1,80,000 Kms service though the odo is at 1,87,000 Kms and also found that engine oil along with coolant was leaking in our car. As a result, we got the timing kit replaced along oil seals and radiator.

Also got the new set of clutch along with master slave cylinder (replaced this one for the first time in 7 years of ownership) as the previous set has run 1,15,000 Kms.

The bill I got is close to a lac though I'll be posting the final bill once I get the car.

After getting everything replaced, I'm good to go for another 1-2L Kms though I've an itch to get a new car replacing this one though we bought a Hycross Hybrid last year, which was bought as the replacement for our previous OG Innova that we sold in 2022 and is our primary car used by dad. Still thinking whether to sell off this car or retain even after we get its replacement and retain as a 3rd car whenever any of our cars go for service or for major repair work. The plan is to let go of this car as soon as it completes 2L Kms on the odo, which will happen next year mostly and by this time till I move back to US next month, I guess I'd be adding another 2-3k Kms on the odo.

Was supposed to let go of the City this year and get an EV or Petrol AT as running has decreased significantly after I moved to USA last year. But, with a heavy heart, had to keep this car for atleast an year as my parents said big no in selling off this car due to economic reasons and with me not being in the country for at least 1-2 years, it doesn't make sense to sell it off as per my parents and few folks I know, who advised me against selling off this car.

In the last 2 years, with the intention of retaining this car for another 2-3 years, I guess we have spent nearly Rs.3-4L, which is the resale value of this vehicle if I sell it off now, by getting repainted at Honda ASC, overhauling the suspension, replacing the engine mounts and gearbox mounts, getting fresh set of tyres (present ones have run 30k Kms already), new battery, radiator fans as they were busted and now, spent money on getting the timing kit replaced along with new radiator, coolant and new set of clutch.

But, according to me, being a 10 year old car, it no longer makes sense to splurge more money on this car. Told dad this will be the last major expenditure on this car as I got sick on splurging more money on this car. If any major expenditure comes, insisted my folks to sell it off ASAP even with my absence.

Any advices on this?

You seem to be leaving town soon. That means the vehicle will be used sparingly. Buying a new vehicle in the similar segment or above will easily set you back by 15-20 lacs. Why spend that on a vehicle that will be used sparingly? (If you really want to :D )

It's better to keep this one running. It's a honda, so would be reliable. Diesel is a cherry on top. These are just routine repairs which seem to have bothered you. And try finding a good FNG. Clutch service should not cost 1 lac rupees.

Good FNGs will do the same work at a quarter of the price.

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Originally Posted by Rshrey22 (Post 5831400)

Already moved an year ago and was here in India for vacation until recently. The problem is, this being a Diesel, will require lots of maintenance though I'm still keen on getting a newer BS6 Diesel AT vehicle like Seltos/Creta or Thar next year replacing the City before Diesel goes extinct.

Else, will have to look for Petrols, mostly Turbo as I don't mind letting go of mileage considering that this will be a secondary car or an EV.

Coming to FNG, there aren't any decent FNGs around our vicinity and since Honda ASC is barely 10 min drive from home, it made sense to us. Also, my folks always prefer getting the car serviced at ASC itself no matter how much it costs.

Have been going to Honda ASC since its purchase btw.

My 2008 City VTEC plus has done about a lac kms and I intend to keep it for a few more years as it’s still reliable and comfortable in every possible way. I switched to a FNG a couple of years ago as Honda authorised service wasn’t satisfactory and sourcing spares has become a headache.
I’ve recently got the clutch and related hardware replaced from a FNG. Sachs (ZF) makes aftermarket clutch kits (release bearings, etc) and they’re of very good quality. I’ve also replaced the suspension hardware(OEM front struts and TRW rear struts along with all the bushes)
This particular City (VTEC) has a peculiar low rpm(under 1000 rpm) hesitation in picking up speed inspite of cleaning the throttle body, IAC valve and replacing plugs. I’m going to check the ignition coils and replace them if necessary but that’s a steep expense for a 16 year old car!

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Originally Posted by Rshrey22 (Post 5835716)

If money's not the issue then why are you so much bothered about letting this car go? Seems like a toxic relationship :D

Coz it's a 10+ year old car and need change as we usually replace our cars within 5 years of ownership and AT is the need of an hour since the car is mainly driven in city traffic and occasionally on highways. Also, this car has run close 1.9L Kms till date (1.89L Kms to be precise) and decided to sell as soon as it completes 2L Kms on the odo, which might happen next year.

Also, have a fear that Honda might exit from the Indian market due to low sales and lack of new launches. Hence, willing to let this car go.