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Originally Posted by cogWheel A "sticky" clutch pedal usually points to problems with the clutch master (or slave) cylinders. Low transmission oil levels due to a leak, air trapped in the system or a worn out cylinder could be the culprits. May require replacement of cylinder(s) in worst case scenario. Get to a service center at the earliest. A clutch failure while driving can be an unpleasant experience. |
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Originally Posted by vishnusv This might be a sign of clutch master/slave cylinders needing replacement. Please make sure that it is addressed asap or you might end up stranded on the road. |
Hi,
I went to the ASC on Friday for the 60k kms service as well as for addressing the clutch issue.
First I went to Concorde Motors, Mohan cooperative estate in the morning. After the test drive they said:
1) Clutch needs to be replaced since the clutch is a little hard & the gears were slotting only when the clutch was pressed fully. As per the SE, if the master cylinder or slave cylinder were broken, the clutch won't come back at all and will be depressed fully. ( Estimate of around Rs 7,500 without the flywheel & GST)
2) The suspension was making some noise & a few components might need to be replaced. I asked him to do greasing for suspension and that might solve this issue.
3) He told me that the timing chain for the 90PS version is to be replaced at 60k kms and if I don't get it changed there will be trouble for my warranty. (Estimate of around 10-12k pre GST)
4) The estimate for the 60k service was around Rs 10,000 for the oil, filters, labour, suspension greasing etc.
In the end, what I understood was that I will have to spend Rs 30,000 for a 2 year old car with 60,000 km on the odo just for regular maintenance (Without anything broken down).
Since I was asked to drop the car for 2 days since it was already noon and the car wouldn't be completed in one day, I took the car off as I needed the car next day urgently.
After that, I visited newly opened Treo Motors in Vasant Kunj as it was not much of a detour for me and I was getting SMS and calls from them since a week that they have opened a new TATA workshop and requested me to visit them for my car's service.
I went there talked them about the issue. They also told me :
1) It is recommended by TATA for the 90 PS to change the timing chain at 60k kms and if I don't get it done now, there will be trouble in claiming warranty in case something goes wrong with the engine related to timing chain. I asked them if the timing chain can be inspected and checked whether it needs immediate replacement, they said it's not possible as everything is sealed. (I wonder how they can change it if everything is sealed)
2) They also told me the clutch needs to be replaced and the master cylinder and slave cylinder cannot be inspected for damage. As per them if the master cylinder was damaged all the break oil would have leaked and the clutch pedal won't come back up and will be fully depressed.
I asked them to do a basic 60k service for oil and filters change. There was some discount going on and in total the bill was Rs 6,200. I did not opt for engine flushing and engine oil additive (Rs 1300).
Surprisingly, the clutch is a lot better after the service (Nothing clutch related was done), is not stucking anymore and the gears are slotting a lot better. The suspension noises are also gone and the car is running fine.
As per their introductory offer, they also dry cleaned my seats
When I bought the car from Tuli Motors, I specifically asked them what is the recommended kms for the change of timing belt and I was told since Zest has a timing chain instead of a timing belt, it needs to be replaced at 90,000 kms.
Though the car is running fine, I am still amazed that the clutch has worn out at 60k kms. Of all the cars I have owned earlier, the clutch has always lasted for about a lakh kms before replacement since my driving does not involve much clutch usage. I am shocked that the ASC cannot inspect the master & slave cylinder for the clutch issue.
Also, the timing chain replacement for 60k kms is a bit early for a car. For the 75ps version, it is recommended to be changed at 90k kms. And the timing belt also cannot be inspected, is a bit shocking.
I am currently not in the mood of spending Rs 20k more just for the regular maintenance of my car and wondering whether it is really required to get the timing chain & clutch replaced at the ASC. Also, I am scared that if the timing chain of Zest 90PS is indeed pretty fragile and would break at 60k kms and I would end up getting my Zest's engine seized.
What should I do?