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Service level of VW has definitely improved and we are witnessing a turn around. In fact in of the VW forums I highlighted the fact that VW is witnessing a turnaround in India post launch of new Polo last year where its monthly shipments have consistently crossed 4k units. I believe Vento will just add to this surge. And all this is not just because of better products but because of improving service level. In fact I complement them for offering automatic in diesel car something which Honda is shying away from offering. I too believe that Polo GT TSi is a much fun to drive AT then Jazz CVT. The main advantage that Jazz offers is space and lets not undermine this because for someone spending close to 10 lacs, you would expect the car to be spacious and not cramped. However both Polo TSi and Jazz CVT are reaching out to different consumer segments. Someone wanting a spirited, fun to drive car would consider Polo GT while someone wanting a practical, spacious and City car would go for Jazz CVT. However with the high pricing of Jazz CVT I am sure consumers will look for options and I think Ford Figo Aspire would be one strong alternative. The news is out today that Ford will be offering 1.5-litre petrol unit mated to a six-speed automatic dual-clutch transmission (DCT), and it develops 110.5bhp and 13.9kgm of torque. So someone wanting a powerful automatic car with a large boot can also consider Aspire. It comes with 359 litre boot, 6 airbags, 4.9m turning radius, leather seats, rear seat armrest, hill launch assist and ESP Last edited by damager21 : 11th July 2015 at 23:32. | |
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Yes, I've been following the news in thread here and also the various auto news sites from quite sometime now. I personally like the Aspire and have my eyes on the AT but its to be seen if it comes with all the top trim goodies. If the Ecosport AT can be considered a precedent then I guess Ford should deliver the same in the Aspire as well. | ||
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| ![]() Any news about how the initial response has been to the new Jazz? Normally, we will hear huge booking numbers in the first few days. So far, have heard nothing. Does that mean response is lukewarm? Question - can anyone explain the presence of the plastic cap in place of the start-stop button? I mean I understand the concept of part sharing etc but then no variant of the Jazz has the start -stop button. Is it for export models? But, even outside India, not all variants get the start-stop button. I wonder how is it in the City.. the lower variants of the City dont have the start-stop button. So, do they also get the plastic cap in the same place? To me, this is the worst mistake from Honda for the new Jazz and doesn't save them anything...it was plain lazy from Honda. I think if Honda gives the flat folding and 60:40 rear seat in the 'V' variant along with adjustable headrests and reclining option, and even prices it 15K higher than the current model, it would be a much more complete and appealing package. They should then either stop the VX variant or give it more equipments like the keyless entry and go, shark fin antenna etc |
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| ![]() I am in a huge dilemma. Spoilt by choice. We are looking for a small car (Read upto 4.3 meters). So naturally, we are looking at all cars like the Jazz, Elite i20, S Cross and Creta. Well I have seen both the Jazz and the i20; and it is already so confusing. While some may argue that on the outside, the i20 looks better, but I find the Jazz much sportier and IMO a white Jazz with 16 inch gunmetal wheels and proper rubber would look amazing and much sportier than the i20. When it comes to engines, Again IMO, the all aluminium 1.5 iDtec is more advanced and efficient than the i20, louder/unrefined though. It is more powerful and more advanced, no doubt. Again, I have driven both the cars and while both are similar, Jazz is slightly better. This is not a biggie for me as my driving style works with both cars. I20 definitely FEELs better when the car is on the move, maybe due to better NVH, less vibrations etc. Coming to spec sheets and equipment, well not saying much here but Jazz feels ancient. It is a car you can hand over to any driver and you wont have to show him around. I20 is just loaded. This makes the decision rreslly difficult for me. I am looking at Jazz VX i Dtec and i20 Asta CRDi. I20 is 50k cheaper and has 50 more features. But jazz will be cheaper to run and maintain, Better resale? I am in the 10 lac price band so considering the Creta SX (1.6 Diesel) and S cross 1.6 as well. I understand this thread is i20 vs Jazz, so please get me sorted there atleast. Thanks a ton ![]() |
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Given your budget and models in your consideration set, I think it will be worth while for you to wait for a month more. As is rumoured, Hyundai will be launching Creta 1.6 SX Diesel at 9.5 lacs (ex-showroom Delhi). If true, you will get a more powerful 1.6l diesel engine in Creta. Also, in terms of features, it will be on par with Jazz if not Elite i20 - 16" alloy wheel, dual airbag, reverse parking sensor, 5" touch screen audio system, ORVM electrically adjustable & foldable, Projector headlamp, adjustable rear headrest. etc. | |
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Now coming to Jazz vs i20, if you need space, its the Jazz. If its not your primary concern, I will suggest the Hyundai for Diesel and a Honda for petrol. | |
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Honda Fit LX - USA ![]() Honda Jazz VTi - Australia ![]() Honda Jazz Trend - South Africa ![]() I don't this so Adimicra. At least based on the images in the ownership reviews of City, I am pretty sure City different panels - sliver and black - in VX variant to accommodate the Engine Start / Stop button. Other variants do not have any plastic cap there. Also, if it was there I am sure our mods and fellow members who have seen lower variants of City would have pointed that out. | |
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![]() I wish honda had made it simpler for us to chose. I also compared the jazz to the city, for the differences and features offered, you pay exactly 2.5 lacs extra ex showroom for the City and get a boot and cruise control only as extras. That makes the jazz VFM? I dont think so. Quote:
I am looking for a diesel, I want to like the Jazz but don't want to make the call in haste. I want to have the car that offers excitement and doesn't make me feel compromised after some time. Last edited by ampere : 12th July 2015 at 12:06. Reason: Merged back to back posts | ||
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Though this is nothing to do with your actual decision, here are my views on both against my 1.6 GT TDi driving experience: 1. Its no brainer, but if you have to rank it on refinement levels starting from the most refined, its Elite I20 CRDI > Jazz I-Dtec > Polo 1.6 GT. 2. Though the outlook of any car is quite subjective and a big personal choice, I still think that Elite I20 is arguably the best looking hatch on Indian soil, particularly in its OEM Avatar. ![]() 3. I agree with your statement that Elite I20 CRDI feels faster due to refinement but on the road, the Jazz I-Dtec actually is a wee bit quicker. But neither actually revs as freely as 1.6 GT and by far feel a lot less scarier !! 4. Again nothing new here, but ranking them on overall comfort for occupants, Jazz > Elite > Polo. Elite feels a but cramped only if one has sat in or plans to sit in a Jazz. Polo is not for carrying passenger, PERIOD !! 5. Both Jazz and Elite have brilliant fit and finish inside out. Frankly speaking, as an owner of Polo for over a year now, I felt Hyundai and Honda have really caught up with the Germans in this department. 6. The ride on Jazz felt great but Elite is a notch above here. Neither crash into potholes or cracks like the way my Polo does. Then again, the body roll on Polo is almost negligible compared to both. 7. W.r.t ownership, Honda seems to be a legend and Hyundai offer same if not better reliability. I have owned the latter under 2 different ownerships and can personally vouch for that. I have not really had any issues with my VW yet and I strongly believe the German giants have really pulled up their socks here. All in all, if you are also considering Creta & S-cross, please do TD both and take a call. | |
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I would have still accepted this if Honda was to offer Push button as an accessory in which case one could understand that for ease of installation Honda has offered this provision. Following are the countries in which Honda is offering Push button Australia - VTi-L USA - EX Indonesia - RS Malaysia - E and above Philippines - VX+ Singapore - Jazz 1.5 Thailand - SV and above Having said that, in South Africa as rightly pointed out by you, Push button is not offered as a feature in any variant and strangely so, since Honda is exporting Jazz to South Africa from India, Indian variant also gets the same dashboard design. This also brings me to the question, can one buy Push button from external source and install it in Jazz? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Engin...377778835.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Jazz-...035987126.html Last edited by damager21 : 12th July 2015 at 12:37. | |
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![]() I have retrofitted cruise control on my VW, Are such mods possible on Honda cars, eg. Can one fit the Jazz with City's cruise control. I know germans are a OEM modders dream ![]() | |
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| ![]() I just had a test drive of the Jazz V petrol and I liked how it felt to drive on the road. Although the gear box felt clunky. Also, i felt the rear seats are not so comfortable. My i10 is much better for back seat cushion. Anyways, I felt the SV version is more VFM and going the bookings so far, SV is leading the trend at least in one area in Hyderabad. At ₹ 8 lakhs on road, I think you can just upgrade the alloy wheels for another ~₹20000/- and you get a well packaged car in hands compared to V trim level. Will try to test drive i20 Asta petrol and see how the engine feels on the road. |
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| ![]() Guys, A hell of confusion between Elite i20 and Jazz. I have never been associated with any of the two (H or H), existing car being Ertiga and looking for a premium hatchback. My primary requirement is petrol (MT) and looking to keep the car for next 5 years (min). Below is what I have broken down the the key factors(in no particular order): 1. Ageing 2. Better Engine - 70% city and 30% highway with min 2 and max 4 adults 3. After Sales & service 4. Cost of ownership How would you suggest for both the cars in above categories. Help ![]() |
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