[Dr.Naren]

New thread about remap for 1.6 S-Cross is out!!

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...o-tronics.html

I have driven around 150 KM post remap and totally enjoy the car. Who wouldn't love a remap which has good power, no black smoke and gain in FE?

[nimit3105]

I have a weird problem with my S-Cross 1.6. Sometimes when I start the car in the morning and try to move a little ahead in first gear, there is a loud sound from the rear of the car. This doesn't happen often or when the car is being driven. It only happens when the car is parked for a day or two and then used again. The SA told me not to park the car with the handbrake pulled up and since then there has been no sound. Also, today when I started the car, it started vibrating a lot for some reason. I turned it off and on again and everything seems fine. What could be the issue?

[abhinav.s]

Originally Posted by nimit3105

I have a weird problem with my S-Cross 1.6. Sometimes when I start the car in the morning and try to move a little ahead in first gear, there is a loud sound from the rear of the car. This doesn't happen often or when the car is being driven. It only happens when the car is parked for a day or two and then used again.

If you park the car with the handbrake pulled after you have washed the vehicle and leave it as is for a day or two, the rear brakes tend to get slightly jammed. Even after disengaging the handbrake, the wheels will not move freely. I face this on my Fiesta. As soon as i notice the resistance to move ahead, I engage reverse gear and reverse the car a bit. That tends to free up the wheels and I dont hear that loud sound that I used to get earlier.

[nimit3105]

Originally Posted by abhinav.s

If you park the car with the handbrake pulled after you have washed the vehicle and leave it as is for a day or two, the rear brakes tend to get slightly jammed. Even after disengaging the handbrake, the wheels will not move freely. I face this on my Fiesta. As soon as i notice the resistance to move ahead, I engage reverse gear and reverse the car a bit. That tends to free up the wheels and I dont hear that loud sound that I used to get earlier.

Thanks for your reply Does the Fiesta have Rear Disc Brakes as well? The Service advisor mentioned the same thing(He said it's due to heavy rains and the car being parked for a day or two). I was quite worried about it. Thought there might be some issue with the rear axle as a lot of S-Cross owners on the forum are facing it.

[abhinav.s]

Originally Posted by nimit3105

Thanks for your reply Does the Fiesta have Rear Disc Brakes as well?

Nope the Fiesta has drum brakes at the rear. And the SA could be right. Heavy rains might cause the brakes to jam if the handbrake is engaged while parking for extended periods of time.

[invidious]

Does anyone have an update on the release of the Petrol AT S-Cross? I realize the Indian manufactured Petrol AT version has already been released in Indonesia.

[sou_3749]

Originally Posted by nimit3105

I have a weird problem with my S-Cross 1.6. Sometimes when I start the car in the morning and try to move a little ahead in first gear, there is a loud sound from the rear of the car. This doesn't happen often or when the car is being driven. It only happens when the car is parked for a day or two and then used again. The SA told me not to park the car with the handbrake pulled up and since then there has been no sound. Also, today when I started the car, it started vibrating a lot for some reason. I turned it off and on again and everything seems fine. What could be the issue?

Finally somebody else has this problem. I failed to reproduce this issue in front of mechanics though I face this issue almost everyday and my car never rests for a day. Though there is logic behind the explanation, I fail to understand this why it didn't happen in my earlier cars. No matter if I move forward or backward, the jamming sound comes. But, my car is washed everyday including the wheels and I am sure the guy must have put water into the rear discs. The combination of damped rear discs and hand brake might be the culprit here. Thanks for bringing this up. I will ask the guy to stop rinsing the wheels for couple of days. Let's see if this will help.

[cpbopanna]

Originally Posted by sou_3749

... I will ask the guy to stop rinsing the wheels for couple of days. Let's see if this will help.

Simplest solution is to leave the vehicle in gear and not apply the hand-brake!

[Sree73]

Originally Posted by sou_3749

Finally somebody else has this problem. But, my car is washed everyday including the wheels and I am sure the guy must have put water into the rear discs. The combination of damped rear discs and hand brake might be the culprit here.

sou_3749, It is clearly the water on the disc and the caliper / shoe creating this problem. I do have this sound coming from the rear wheel when I start the car on Monday. I clean the wheels every Sunday with water rinsing. The sound is like some thing getting detached if you apply force (Tak Tak sound.. Once or twice)

[phoenix7]

Originally Posted by sou_3749

But, my car is washed everyday including the wheels and I am sure the guy must have put water into the rear discs. The combination of damped rear discs and hand brake might be the culprit here. Thanks for bringing this up. I will ask the guy to stop rinsing the wheels for couple of days. Let's see if this will help.

Yes you are thinking in the right direction. I faced the same issue with my superb an year back. My service centre guy asked me to make sure that the car cleaner doesnot put water directly on the alloys, as it goes onto the discs and can lead to rusting if the car is not driven for a while. The car cleaners have a habit of throwing the excess water left in the bucket after cleaning the car onto the tyres, this causes this issue. So everytime they do this, youll feel a jerk and some noise ,the first time you start moving the car after cleaning. Get hold of your car cleaner and ask him if he does so😁

[Vigkey]

Originally Posted by cpbopanna

Simplest solution is to leave the vehicle in gear and not apply the hand-brake!

Originally Posted by nimit3105

The SA told me not to park the car with the handbrake pulled up and since then there has been no sound.

Frankly, I dont think it is advisable. It is always better to park the car with the handbrakes engaged.

While parking in slope, it is advisable to engage the hand brake and in addition leave the car in gear (first or reverse) based on the direction of slope. Even in this case, the process to be followed is:

1. Move the gear to neutral with brakes on
2. Engage the hand brake and release the brakes - Now the car is braked entirely by the hand brake
3. Move the gear to first / reverse - The gear acts as a supplementary brake and there is no pressure on the gears

If the Gear is engaged -> Brakes released -> hand brakes engaged, the pressure will be on the gear and hand brake will be supplementary. This is my POV. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[KiloAlpha]

Originally Posted by Vigkey

Frankly, I dont think it is advisable. It is always better to park the car with the handbrakes engaged.

While parking in slope, it is advisable to engage the hand brake and in addition leave the car in gear (first or reverse) based on the direction of slope.
...

You are 90% correct.
When parking on a slope, check if you can park with the steering wheel turned quarter lock so that the front tyre is jammed up against the kerb. This is always the best option, as it will ensure that the car is being physically restrained from rolling away by a barrier.
If this is possible, it means that both handbrake and gearbox are supplementary restraints.

[cpbopanna]

Originally Posted by Vigkey

Frankly, I don't think it is advisable. It is always better to park the car with the handbrakes engaged.

Theoretically you are right.

I am specifically referring to cars parked in our own garages whose brakes have been doused with water. In most of the cases, with our garages/car parks being on level ground, we use hand-brakes just to prevent untoward incidents (unintended vehicle movements).

In our Jeeps and Ambassadors of yore, (effective) hand-brakes were virtually non-existent! We always kept those vehicles in gear, whether parked on a slope or not!

If the slope is so high that it challenges engine compression, it will stress the drive-train, else it should hardly matter!

[Vigkey]

I am not sure the issue I am facing is same as the clank / tak-tak sound many reported for which the rear axle tube was replaced. Please clarify.

The issue: When I accelerate quickly OR when I enter / exit curves OR on some bad roads, my S-Cross 1.6 gives a small but highly irritating sound. I feel it comes from under the driver seat - pretty much like the rivet holding the seat to the chassis is loose - it is like the sound of metal to metal rubbing. This is not something that occurs every time - but the frequency has increased off late.

I had reported the issue during the first service when the sound was very feeble and I was told it was resolved. Also, we could not replicate it in the post service test drive. After that it reappeared in some days and now it has become very irritating.

Folks who replaced the rear axle tube, please confirm if the issue you faced was similar to this or not.

[sou_3749]

Originally Posted by Vigkey

The issue: When I accelerate quickly OR when I enter / exit curves OR on some bad roads, my S-Cross 1.6 gives a small but highly irritating sound. I feel it comes from under the driver seat - pretty much like the rivet holding the seat to the chassis is loose - it is like the sound of metal to metal rubbing. This is not something that occurs every time - but the frequency has increased off late.

I had reported the issue during the first service when the sound was very feeble and I was told it was resolved. Also, we could not replicate it in the post service test drive. After that it reappeared in some days and now it has become very irritating.

I do hear sometimes when I take curves and I can pin point this coming from the driver's seat assembly. This is small yet significant irritant noise which breaks silence of the otherwise very tidy cabin. Other than this I can feel the suspension has become a tad hard and can feel the potholes a little more.I am not sure if the suspension springs to be blamed or the hard compound tires showing it's character. This is after 17k kms. Till now I though these are some isolated issues related my my car.