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Old 22nd January 2019, 12:16   #736
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Well, has anyone enquired for a deal at KHT Bangalore?
I enquired with them last week over the phone, and they said Abarth Punto (black) is available for Rs. 10 L OTR. I didn't probe any further, I was more interested in T-jet.
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Old 22nd January 2019, 13:24   #737
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Tafe Access in Coimbatore are thugs when it comes to sales. I know them since the 90s. Don't give in to them. Their monopoly over decades is the root cause of their callousness. OTR is "On The Road".

If you have decided on the Abarth, check out dealers in other cities. If you don't mind Tata, check out if the JTP is available at SRT Motors on Avinashi Road.
I did not check the price of Abarth with Tafe Access. SRT Motors on Mettupalayam Road is the dealer for Fiat in Coimbatore and I enquired with them. Still they do not agree to the huge discounts that Fiat is giving. They say "Only temporary registered customer will get that price (8.7L)"

Most of my Business trips to Europe will be to Italy and Spain, where I see lot of Fiat cars on road. During my last visit in November, one of my customer, took me on his 3 door Punto, which had run more that 250000 KMS. He was driving pedal to the floor, which is very rash to European standards, and the car equally responded well. He spoke highly about the reliability of the car and did not want to part its company since 9 years. He also has a Honda CRV, but he prefers driving the Punto. This some what influences me to stick with Fiat and not go for JTP.

While I was trying to contact Marvel Fiat, Erode, for Abarth quotation, I got a lead of 2016 pre-owned Abarth in Erode, which has run 18,000KMS and in good condition. I'm quite new to this forum and I'm not sure if I can mention the price here. Now I'm in a dilemma whether to go for a new or pre-owned one.
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Old 2nd February 2019, 11:14   #738
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Headed for the test drive today with mixed feelings.

The news of the Fiat brand shutting shop has indeed dampened the spirits. Even my Fiat owning friends are now suggesting it is time to look beyond the brand.

Maybe the sales guy inadvertently did me a favour by not responding to my request for the past week.

The big question in my mind will be availability of spares, especially since I was thinking of holding on to the car for a long time.

Time to read up on the experience of the Chevy ownership threads.
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...The news of the Fiat brand shutting shop has indeed dampened the spirits. Even my Fiat owning friends are now suggesting it is time to look beyond the brand......
If you are looking at a peaceful ownership with most parts readily available, don't bother considering Fiat even if they were not shutting shop in India. They are simply not efficient.

But if you want a hatchback with nice power, modification potential and can deal with a FNG, go ahead and buy the Abarth Punto as most the parts can anyways be procured from Mopar.

One thing for sure, ownership wont be a cake walk.

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Have done 2100 kms, man, this is one amazing machine. The power on tap and consistent city FE of 10-11 is icing on the cake. No need to worry about the brand going in grave, this car is meant to be enjoyed.

In fact, post the forge IC change, I did find a better bottom end and engine breathing more freely.

More mods to come slowly.

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Update on test drive 1:

Spent more time in the showroom than driving the car. The manager and the sales man were in "let us explain why you need not worry about the article" mode.

Heard them out, but there was nothing much that they could incrementally add to the bits in the public domain.

Coming to the car itself.

1. The seating position - I'm 6', 115 kgs. And it took me barely a few seconds to find a good position. I guess that's good news given all that's been said on this.

2. The dead pedal - Aaaaaargh. I was wearing my boots (had taken the RE) and it was a mess. The size 13 left boot kept fouling with either the dead pedal or the clutch pedal while driving. Couldn't figure that bit out in the 10 minute drive around the showroom. I asked if it could be removed (the dead pedal, not the boot!!) was told "No sir". Will be critical to check this on the longer test drive next week. Has anyone removed/tried and failed to remove the dead pedal without mutilating the well?

3. The brakes - Woooowieeee. Best set of brakes I've come across in a small car/compact sedan

4. The engine - barely got it going beyond 1700-2000 rpm. And I guess that's a good thing. Sets expectations on what to expect while using it for the 30 mins / 3 km long trip between home and the daycare centre. I expected the 1.4 given that it is a 1.4 to have a bit more grunt at the low end vs say the petrol DZire. The next drive will be a longer one and I do plan to stretch her legs.

5. Other bits -

Only black colour in stock. That's the one I would have opted for in any case.

10 days for delivery after booking. That's cool too.

Company scheme of 1.88L as mentioned earlier.

The OTR quoted is more than what other BHPians have quoted earlier in the thread. I did some comparisons using carwalle (to account for the difference in road taxes) and realised that I need to negotiate a fair bit.

Didn't really bother with the music system. Will be me by myself most of the time and the stock one will serve my purpose.

More after the next test drive.

Cheers!

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So, finally got this beast home on 01 February 2019. One hell of a machine. I am just loving it and regret my decision of not owning it earlier. It's hard to find such cars meant for sheer driving pleasure and more often than not, we choose mileage above everything else (PS: I owned a Ritz and now own a Brezza and Celerio). I have just done around 300 KMS and already loving it. Sharing a few pictures below:

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So, finally got this beast home on 01 February 2019. One hell of a machine. I am just loving it and regret my decision of not owning it earlier. I have just done around 300 KMS and already loving it.
Congratulations mate and welcome to the club!

While many are stuck in a state of ambivalence, given the sealed fate of Fiat in India, I feel glad to get my hands on a master piece like this while I can.

Enjoy your ride man!
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So, finally got this beast home on 01 February 2019. One hell of a machine. I am just loving it and regret my decision of not owning it earlier.
Congratulations on your black beauty! The car looks stunning in black.

Wish you many happy and safe miles with it.

You should consider upgrading those tyres

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I expected the 1.4 given that it is a 1.4 to have a bit more grunt at the low end vs say the petrol DZire.
The bottom end is weak and you can draw similarities to the NA version of 1.4l engine. Little you can do about it. It improves a little as you put more miles. The fun starts post 2000rpm. Off course, not every scenario permits driving like this.

Next, wear less bulky footwear. Makes a world of a difference on a car with a cramped foot well. I struggled with this for years until one day, I decided to wear my fancy red Puma Ferrari sneakers and it was a match made in heaven.
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Congratulations mate and welcome to the club!

While many are stuck in a state of ambivalence, given the sealed fate of Fiat in India, I feel glad to get my hands on a master piece like this while I can.

Enjoy your ride man!
Thanks so much! I am sure with the expertise of Bhpians and members of the Abarth Club, the fate of Fiat would be inconsequential in having a trouble free ownership. Cannot agree with you more that it is truly a master piece for the price at which it comes.

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Congratulations on your black beauty! The car looks stunning in black.

Wish you many happy and safe miles with it.

You should consider upgrading those tyres

Thanks so much! While I agree that the tyres can be upgraded, I want to keep it stock for the time being and will consider mods may be after a few years.

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Next work done: Improving the overall driveability and making the car faster.
Estimated 170 bhp and 280 nm at crank post Quantum Remap.

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More in the coming weeks.
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Thanks so much! While I agree that the tyres can be upgraded, I want to keep it stock for the time being and will consider mods may be after a few years.
That was my thinking too. I own a Honda City i-vtec MT which came with 175/65/15 Bridgestone tires. Then at 28k kms I upgraded my tires to 195/60/15 section accelera (some Indonesian tire) and 6.5J alloys as adviced by my cousin (cheaper tires, good for our usual drives). After 15k kms due to increased tire noise I upgraded to 195/60/15 Michelin XM2 tires. Man the car switched itself to a completely different mode. Dry grip, wet grip, braking etc. made a terrific improvement, while the tire noise reduced to a minimum. I still regret for not upgrading the tires from start, I wasted 42k kms of my car life on some crappy tires. I just love driving my car now, 4.5 years and 76,000 kms completed.

A good set of tires can improve the driving experience to a different level. I think you know what I am getting into

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Got this baby home last week. She was sent straight to the detailing studio from the showroom.

This car is money well spent!

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If you are looking at a peaceful ownership with most parts readily available, don't bother considering Fiat even if they were not shutting shop in India. They are simply not efficient.

But if you want a hatchback with nice power, modification potential and can deal with a FNG, go ahead and buy the Abarth Punto as most the parts can anyways be procured from Mopar.

One thing for sure, ownership wont be a cake walk.
What does Fiat have to say about supporting their existing cars? Will all parts be available and will official servicing be done? What about warranty?
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