[FourWheelDrift]

While visiting Toyota Bharat's website today, I noticed that the units for torque have been mentioned as kW and PS, which is incorrect.

The correct units are Nm and kgm.

https://www.toyotabharat.com/showroo.../#top-features

Hopefully, someone from Toyota Bharat is watching this page and will fix this soon.

Cheers,

FourWheelDrift

[geotracks]

Completed the 15K servicing of my Innova Touring Sport. Actual odo reading was 11.5K but it had been 6 months since my last service. I was very impressed with the quick turn around and professionalism of Toyota staff. This was my first paid service. Bill came to Rs. 1.5K. They did the regular servicing (checking nuts & bolts, AC vent cleaning etc.) along with topping up of fluids. They also did a great job of washing and cleaning the vehicle from inside.

I was also advised to change the air filter with a special 0.25 microns?? during my next 20K service. The air filter shown to me was 'Made in Japan' with odor neutralizer.

I asked the service manager why every 5K servicing was required for the Innova. I was told that the 15K, 25K, 35K etc. service is just to ensure all is well with the vehicle and do any preventive maintenance as required. Not doing this could void warantee of certain parts of the vehicle. The 10K, 20K, 30K etc. services are the bigger ones requiring oil change etc.

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by geotracks

I asked the service manager why every 5K servicing was required for the Innova. I was told that the 15K, 25K, 35K etc. service is just to ensure all is well with the vehicle and do any preventive maintenance as required. Not doing this could void warantee of certain parts of the vehicle. The 10K, 20K, 30K etc. services are the bigger ones requiring oil change etc.

The 5K service is just a rudimentary checkup. While it appears that nothing is done to the car, if you have time, its better to get done. For one you get car washed, secondly the car is given a thorough checkup which ensures peace of mind. It might get bothersome as you have to visit service center often, but I feel its worth, provided you have accessibility to a good service center.

[geotracks]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

The 5K service is just a rudimentary checkup. While it appears that nothing is done to the car, if you have time, its better to get done. For one you get car washed, secondly the car is given a thorough checkup which ensures peace of mind. It might get bothersome as you have to visit service center often, but I feel its worth, provided you have accessibility to a good service center.

Yes, absolutely agree. In fact the service manager mentioned that in case of trade-in at a later time, Toyota checks the service record and gives a quotation accordingly. So a regularly serviced vehicle fetches better trade-in value as per the service manager, than otherwise.

He also said that in the Rs. 1,500 (approx.) of service charge, top-up of fluids are included, meaning Toyota does not charge anything extra for any amounts of top-ups.

[haisaikat]

Does anyone know if the following accesories can be fitted by dealer in GX model?
1. Door puddle lamp
2. Glove box lamp
3. The black glossy back door ornament of the touring sport
4. Door chrome trim that gives a chrome line at the bottom of the windows
5. Steering cover with leather or wood finish?

I am hearing a "not possible" and "not available" response from dealer.

Thanks in advance

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by haisaikat

Does anyone know if the following accesories can be fitted by dealer in GX model?

4th one is available at dealer, though I recall it doesnot cover front quarter glass. Wood finish is not possible, however you can get the steering leather wrapped. Leather wrapping is not official Toyota accessory. Rest are not listed as accessory, but you might able to procure them as spare parts.

[Sankar]

Originally Posted by haisaikat

Does anyone know if the following accesories can be fitted by dealer in GX model?

1) Possible, needs wiring from door open switch. Better to DIY or an FNG auto electrician if dealer is not too keen. Buy the lamp from the ZX/VX model.

2) Should be possible and will need the lamp alongwith the switch and a tap off from a 12v ACC source. Better to DIY or FNG auto electrician.

3) Possible - order the part for touting sport or get the current one painted glossy black in the same shade like many do and it looks good.

4) Possible, get all 4 chrome window trims from the VX/ZX model and get it installed. For the third row window and the front quarter glass you will need to buy 3rd party stainless steel trim set for GX and use the two pieces for these two windows and discard the rest. It won't be easily caught out as stick on bits. I had it like this on mine but later removed all chrome trims and went back to stock as i got fed up with chrome look. Wouldn't suggest using stick on trims for the main windows as they get easily caught as stick on trims and mostly look yuck in close up.

5) Buy OEM steering wheel l if you need the wood look. There is no other way if you need quality anything else would be a jugaad.
If you need just the leather then get the GX wheel wrapped up by Stanley, Ovion or small time shops who specialise in automotive leather works.

[haisaikat]

Thank you Sankar and PrideRed for your inputs.

Will getting the glove lamp and puddle lamp not void the warranty if there are no dedicated connection points given in GX model? I have seen in some cases cars having logo projection lights installed under doors and they look cool.

For the chrome window garnish will check with dealer regarding their willingness and price offer. If I find it's 3 times what I am being quoted outside then I need to revisit. But on the same lines the side P moulds (side chrome beading) costing at dealer close to 17k and same outside is 4-5 k . Are you guys suggesting that the one at the dealer would be always better even if overpriced?

Finally a word about floor mats and seat cover? In the GX trims there is no window/curtain air bags a d I have read posts earlier that with curtain air bags warranty can be void if I install seat covers outside the dealership. But that is not the case in GX. So checking for AutoForm seat covers and 3D floor mats. In some video reviews I have seen that with externally installed seat covers the one touch tumble of middle row seats does not work seamlessly. While I can still live with that, hope nothing else gets messed up.

Any suggestions or advice here?

[Sankar]

Originally Posted by haisaikat

Thank you Sankar and PrideRed for your inputs.

Will getting the glove lamp and puddle lamp not void the warranty if there are no dedicated connection points given in GX model? I have seen in some cases cars having logo projection lights installed under doors and they look cool.

There is a fusebox above the passenger kickpanel towards the top and left. You should be able to get an acc line from there withut splicing any wire for the glovebox lamp.

Regarding puddle lamps if the dealer is offering the same then you can use the same line to power the door open warning lamps. Basically both are on when door is open.

For the chrome window garnish will check with dealer regarding their willingness and price offer. If I find it's 3 times what I am being quoted outside then I need to revisit. But on the same lines the side P moulds (side chrome beading) costing at dealer close to 17k and same outside is 4-5 k . Are you guys suggesting that the one at the dealer would be always better even if overpriced?

The window trim from dealer is OE part from VX/ZX outside shop do not have this, they sell what goes on top of GX trim. In case of OE window chrome trim the original GX black trim is removed and this is installed in its place.

The door beading you can source from outside, no point in paying more for dealer stuff even if its TGA.

Finally a word about floor mats and seat cover? In the GX trims there is no window/curtain air bags a d I have read posts earlier that with curtain air bags warranty can be void if I install seat covers outside the dealership. But that is not the case in GX. So checking for AutoForm seat covers and 3D floor mats. In some video reviews I have seen that with externally installed seat covers the one touch tumble of middle row seats does not work seamlessly. While I can still live with that, hope nothing else gets messed up.

Any suggestions or advice here?

Autoform cover fits well and the material feels durable, they are custom fit covers. I had autoform art leather cover in my swift. Only problem i faced was being art leather it was hot and my back used to sweat. I have genuine leather OE fit perforated covers for my GX, no sweating problem and cleaning is easy (unlike fabric). I got this done at Bangalore.

I had TGA seat covers for a while, it didn't look good like a custom fit or OE fit cover.

Custom fit:- Goes on tight over the existing factory seat cover.
OE fit:- Original seat cover is removed and new cover goes over the bare foam.

Middle row tumble issue can be fixed if it happens, it is mostly because of improper re-installation while fitting the seats back.

Ensure that ISOFIX points are not covered when you get the seat covers.

[abishekkalro]

Hi

Has anyone fixed front parking sensors for their Innova crysta ?

I have been researching and have not been able to find anyone who has.

Thanks

[landcruiser123]

Originally Posted by geotracks

I asked the service manager why every 5K servicing was required....

Toyota should just stop making their customers do this exercise. We stopped doing the 5k services for our previous-gen Innova after 50k km. The car ran perfectly till 80k before we sold it. My dad went in only for the 65k km service as it the clutch was weak.

I just used to do visual inspections of all the parts and dust the air filter. I'd recommend you do that too after your warranty period expires.

[haisaikat]

Thanks for the inputs. I have further 2 doubts.

Is Toyota still offering the 6th and 7th year extended warranty? The dealer has denied, stated only till 5th possible now and may be at the end of 5th year purchase for 6th and 7th year of timeless warranty.

My other question regarding seat cover, if I go with nothing additional now, will fitting a seat cover at a later stage be difficult? The dealer has raised concern that with some usage without covers the seat base and back rest shrink or loses shape marginally and hinders a perfect fit with TGA seat covers or even those tailored from outside. Also per him the default seat does not come with a fabric cover rather it's the seat fabric exposed on the surface only and with risks to attract permanent stains / damage if abused. So per them the solution is the Art leather TGA seat cover for 28K which is perforated for best experience. I have preference for beige tone covers available outside which dealer is not having and trying to persuade that the tan brown tone TGA seat cover looks best citing that even the lighter tone ivory option in OE leather seats for ZX has been poorly received and not selling at all. Please advise.

[boniver]

Originally Posted by haisaikat

My other question regarding seat cover, if I go with nothing additional now, will fitting a seat cover at a later stage be difficult? The dealer has raised concern that with some usage without covers the seat base and back rest shrink or loses shape marginally and hinders a perfect fit with TGA seat covers or even those tailored from outside. Also per him the default seat does not come with a fabric cover rather it's the seat fabric exposed on the surface only and with risks to attract permanent stains / damage if abused. So per them the solution is the Art leather TGA seat cover for 28K which is perforated for best experience. I have preference for beige tone covers available outside which dealer is not having and trying to persuade that the tan brown tone TGA seat cover looks best citing that even the lighter tone ivory option in OE leather seats for ZX has been poorly received and not selling at all. Please advise.

Good morning,
It won't be an issue if you don't get seat covers fitted now. If at all the seat loses shape at a later date, you'll have two options:
1. Re-upholster the seat with extra padding/foam and get it shaped according to your liking, and then fit custom seat covers of your choice.This is a good option, and will allow you to use the normal seats for a while and list out it's shortcomings and correct the same during re-upholstering (eg. extra thigh support, lumbar support, contouring etc)
2. Get custom made seat covers according to the shape that your seats will have taken at that time, if at all they lose shape/shrink.

None of my friends own a Crysta so I can't confirm the exposed seat fabric part. It's best to check for yourself, and not take the dealer's word for it. After I got my Santro's Autoform seat covers removed, I discovered another layer of seat covers under them which looked like OEM fabric and, if I hadn't checked properly, would have been easily mistaken for the seat fabric.

Best option is: get the car without seat covers, drive around for a week or two, list out the shortcomings of the seats, get them fixed (or don't), and then go for those beige covers that you want! Please check beforehand whether you can live with art leather seats (perforated or not) since I've heard that they tend to get really hot, especially in our climate. Get the seats done from a good place though, since fitting is the most important part. Don't let the dealer force you into taking his stock, especially when you don't want it.

[Sankar]

Originally Posted by haisaikat

The dealer has raised concern that with some usage without covers the seat base and back rest shrink or loses shape marginally and hinders a perfect fit with TGA seat covers or even those tailored from outside.

Ask him whether Toyota's seat quality is so bad that it will lose shape in a few years.

Also per him the default seat does not come with a fabric cover rather it's the seat fabric exposed on the surface only and with risks to attract permanent stains / damage if abused.

Crysta's fabric seats are like any other fabric seat out there. The surface you sit on is a cover put over the foam, that is how seats are made. Either a fabric cover is put or leather and that makes the seat fabric or leather on the feature list. Crysta's original fabric covers if gets worn out can be purchased new from the factory and has a part number (like other parts of the seat).

So per them the solution is the Art leather TGA seat cover for 28K which is perforated for best experience. I have preference for beige tone covers available outside which dealer is not having and trying to persuade that the tan brown tone TGA seat cover looks best citing that even the lighter tone ivory option in OE leather seats for ZX has been poorly received and not selling at all. Please advise.

I had the TGA leather (top of the range) perforated seat covers and they are not worth the price being asked for it. To put that in perspective i got all three rows of my 8 seater done in genuine leather (seat front, back, sides) for Rs.5000 less than the price of TGA leather seat covers for my 8 seater version. TGA leather seat cover is not full leather either; only the centre perforated portion that come into contact with the thighs and the back is genuine leather, rest all are made up of art leather/vinyl.

Same goes for the TGA art leather stuff, it is not worth the price. For lower cost better fitting seat covers and seats can be done in the aftermarket.

There are some things which should be bought TGA and seat covers aren't one of them. Better quality and fitting can be done by third parties, you just have to find them.

[haisaikat]

Does fitting protruding accesories like window rain visors, side foot step, roof rails and rack, etc hamper the aerodynamics of the car? The dealer is trying to sell me rain visors stating that they are the best beneficial accesories to prevent fogging of the glass areas in rains with AC on, just an example. While I am not in favour of installing these I can only go the rain visors for their chrome lining looks.

Another thing, has someone ever installed TGA window sun shades that are retracting. Dealer does not have any pics and hence checking if someone is using the same