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Old 21st May 2023, 00:12   #3541
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Question to fellow Innova crysta automatic owners - is there anyone else that experiences the extreme sluggishness and lack of response in the diesel autos esp from the BS6 stable? I bought the ZX AT in Sept and the car struggles to ascend inclined roads and even on the highways it’s an effort to get it past 90 kmph. I am fully aware of the sluggish start of diesel autos but this one’s feels weird. Also the transmission doesn’t work properly. You need to use the ‘off the pedal’ and then ‘ on the pedal’ method for the transmission to work.

Overall it serves my purpose given that we are a family of 5 with all the practicality, but I cannot also help but feel that the DPF system and BS6 plus the unresponsive auto tilts the balance in favour of the new hybrids.

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Could be that the DPF is clogged. Have you idled it a lot or spent a lot of time driving slowly in city traffic or doing short trips? Try taking it to the dealership and having them take a look.
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We've a 2021 August 2.4 Z Diesel AT due for its 30,000 kms service this week. Can someone help me with possible service cost for this ODO reading?

Got an eye view from audioholic's post

If there're different experiences by anyone, please do share.



Maybe after a while of your usage, if you can review the product here would help.
You can also now take AMC for 30k, and 40k km. The cost is ~22k. This covers the regular servicing. Additional things like wheel balancing, alignment would be at actuals, but you get 30% discount on labor charges. And now with the AMC, you can get the servicing done from any of the dealerships. The earlier SMILE package was tied to a dealer.
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I did a highway drive completely in S6 mode and I can vouch for the transmission behavior to be different and actually better.
Now that you have mentioned it, I tried it with a 2017 Fortuner and yes, it is exactly what you say. Felt like someone has swapped the D and S modes shift logic.

OT joke: Did a Tata guy find his way into Toyota?
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Here's a particular problem I noticed (maybe it's common and I may not be aware). My 2021 Innova VX MT covered 20k kms as of date, after a 20-25 kms drive was parked by the side of the road idling on neutral , handbrake up , AC on. I feel the vehicle shudder/vibrate for couple of seconds (maybe when the ac compressor kicks in) and the vibration is noticeable.lt felt as if I'm doing a half clutch on a slope and the vehicle is waiting to move. This happened 2-3 times before I had to move from the place. Is this shudder normal?
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I have an Innova crysta bs6 2021 model which I purchased from Ravindu Toyota utrust Bangalore 2 months back.

I am hearing a ticking sound from the engine when I start. It’s unheard from the cabin but can be clearly heard if I open the driver side door. The sound is like a paper touching the fans.

Please can anyone help me figure out from where the sound is coming? Is it common or do I need to visit the service center?

Thank you.
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Dear BHPians,

I have recently bought a Pre-worshipped 2018 Innova Crysta.
I have started to love the car, and the only thing I am not happy about it is the absence of Apple Car Play / Andriod Auto in the system. My question is: Is there a way I can get this installed on the existing system? I do not want to change the head unit / music system, as I absolutely love the touch and feel, however I hate to put my cellphone on the holder and attach it to the dashboard. Please let me know if anyone has tried installing And Auto / Car Play into the Crysta system?
Not sure if you are still looking for an answer but the 2018 models do not support Android Auto / Apple Car Play. But the new models (2021 onwards?) do. You will need to change the Head Unit and I can tell you that it is worth doing so with some fantastic features now available on the new head units.


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I recently took my 2020 Innova Crysta Leadership Edition for getting its tyres changed for the very 1st time after clocking 45,000 kms on the OE (Bridgestone Turanza) tyres to Michelin India dealer in Lajpat Nagar, New Delhi on 29th May 2023. While my stock tyre size was 215/55/R17 – dealer recommended that I should upgrade to Michelin Primacy 4ST with a size of 215/60/R17 which would lead to a higher aspect ratio and thus ensure a more comfortable ride.

I eventually bought 4 set of Michelin Primacy 4ST tyres for INR 48,000/- based on the recommendation given by dealer.

After purchasing Michelin Primacy 4ST tyres, I came across this article which clearly dissuades an Innova Crysta owner from replacing OE tyres with 215/60/R17 as the higher aspect ratio will foul with the car’s suspension. It recommends investing in 225/55/R17 tyre size instead. https://www.autocarindia.com/advice/...-go-for-426396

Another article on the internet says that one should not increase the tyre aspect ratio by more than 5% since this can negatively impact the handling and stability of the vehicle, especially during cornering.

Can this esteemed forum advise the long term impact of merely upsizing the tyre aspect ratio from 55 to 60? BTW...the Michelin dealer has offered to replace the 4 tyres with 215/55/R17 i.e. the OE size at a marginally higher cost. Please advise
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You will need to change the Head Unit
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Thanks Nikhil, and yes I did enquire about changing the Head Unit from the Toyota ASS, however they mentioned that there is no such provision of changing it and the older dashboard structure cannot accommodate / fit the new head unit. Surprising but not too sure if that is true.
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Another article on the internet says that one should not increase the tyre aspect ratio by more than 5% since this can negatively impact the handling and stability of the vehicle, especially during cornering.
With the change, you have increased the diameter of your tyre by 3.4%. The general guidance is to stay within the 3% buffer. But, there is no other size which is available within that 3% range which stays within the recommended tyre width for the rim size on the Crysta ( 6.5 inches ). When you upgrade more than the recommended limit, the following factors are impacted.
  1. Speedo meter error. But, your change will make it more accurate considering that the speedometers on every car is designed to show more speed than what really is the speed due to govt regulation. So, this is a positive for you.
  2. Odometer error. This is real. You would have travelled 10340 kms when the odometer shows 10000 kms.
  3. Comfort - There will be an increase in comfort with 215/60 R17 due to 9.1 % higher sidewall.
  4. Alloy wheel and tyre durability - This will improve due to the extra protection ( 9.1% increased sidewall ) with Rubber.
  5. Rim size to Tyre size matching - The recommended tyre width for 6.5mm alloy wheel width and 55 profile is 205mm whereas with 60 and 65 profile, it's 215 mm which means you got a better match with the rim width by going for 215/60 R17. Reference link
  6. The contact patch area for 215/60 R17 will be more than the 215/55 R17 which translates to more grip on the roads on straight lines and while braking.
  7. Your cornering ability will decrease due to the increased flex of the tyres.
  8. Your suspensions will thank you for the extra cushion of the 215/60 profile ( 9.1 % increase in sidewall height ).
  9. 3.4% taller gear ratios. The general guidance is to keep this within 3%. But, 3.4 % should be ok considering the tractability and torque spread of the engine.

If I were in your position, I would have sticked with 215/60 R17 than the stock size.

Rim width to ideal tyre size
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Inputs for contact patch calculation
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Output of contact patch calculation
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Disclaimer: I own an Innova Crysta Touring Sport 2.8 Diesel Automatic and I downsized my tyres from 215/55 R17 to 205/65 R16 after downsizing all alloys to 16 inches

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Reasoning for the downsizing (Toyota Innova Crysta : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread)

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Re: Toyota Innova Crysta : Official Review

Thanks Amalji for the detailed response. It definitely lends a lot of clarity. I think I will stick to 215/60/R17 size.
Any idea if fuel efficiency will get affected because of the change in aspect ratio from 55 to 60%? Thanks again!
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Thanks Amalji for the detailed response. It definitely lends a lot of clarity. I think I will stick to 215/60/R17 size.
Any idea if fuel efficiency will get affected because of the change in aspect ratio from 55 to 60%? Thanks again!
  • Because of the bigger contact patch, the rolling resistance might increase which can reduce the fuel economy a bit
  • Because of the effective taller gearing, it can increase the fuel economy a bit.

So, in effect, it might even out.

Regardless of the above 2 points, the MID will show lesser mileage than what it used to show because of the 3.4 percent odometer error.
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I went through something similar, booked a Z8L 4x4 White but cancelled it as the quoted waiting period was way too long. Was almost about to pick a 35k run 2.8Z but held back, reason, someone before me got the car inspected by Toyota but later abandoned the deal, which spooked me big time.
Guess what happened, was test driving another Crysta, a 2019 2.8Z Garnet Red with an impossible running (69k). Got a call from showroom that my Z8L is coming next week.

Picked it up on 31st May and I do not regret it. Maybe things happen for a reason.
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Turns out there is indeed a ‘mechanical problem’, the service center couldn’t figure it out for a week and thus they have got in touch with Toyota, I am trying to find out the exact issue but thus far they are mum. The car has just done 5k kms and is covered under warranty as I bought it last sept. Let’s see what comes out. But I am a tad disappointed - not common for Toyota cars to run into transmission and mechanical issues.




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What you are experiencing is not the normal behavior for the car. Even in Eco mode, the diesel auto will easily pull to 120 or more. In Eco mode, the gear shifts to higher gears happen quickly and will feel slightly lethargic especially when compared to Normal or Power modes. For a sedate driver Eco mode is good enough even for highways. Normal/Power mode helps in quick acceleration and quick overtaking. Also there should be no issue in driving on steep gradients of hilly roads. Also you need not do anything special with the accelerator for the transmission shifts to happen. Get your vehicle checked and if possible, drive another vehicle or the test car (if still available in the same variant i.e., diesel auto) for you to feel the difference.
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Re: Toyota Innova Crysta : Official Review

Folks, where is the review of the 2.4 AT ? Searching, but not able to find.
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I am completely fed up of the Bridgestone stock tyres. Even with Air pressure on the lower side it easily locks up that too at the front and on ghat sections both me and my dad end up with tyre squeal even with moderate speed cornering. Tyres have done 31k and am waiting for a bit more to ditch them for good. However the positive side of things is that they have held up well over potholes and bad roads without any sidewall cuts as reported in the initial days by other owners. Hence thinking of a good upgrade in softness and grip but at the same time worried about damage since we use the car pretty roughly and on bad roads.

Brake pads are almost out and before I get them changed at Toyota I ordered a set of TVS girling premium range pads which are supposed to offer better performance than regular pads. If it works well I will keep otherwise switch back to Toyota OEM.

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Folks, where is the review of the 2.4 AT ? Searching, but not able to find.
Which review are you looking for, official review from TBHP? That's not there. However there are quite a few reviews in this thread itself from owners and a few other threads.

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