[vasudeva]

I can totally figure out and understand the flop of this car. But for me, it does not matter so much. I have bought 2 Toyota flop cars earlier-Corolla and Etios. Now my 2007 March Corolla H4 is nearing 15 years. Had for close to 2 years thought of buying this but with Covid, less driving, postponed it. Plus did not want to part ways with my Corolla. But now the time is near, and I am struggling between a new Urban Cruiser and a used Yaris/Corolla. I am near 55, with perhaps an average of 2,000 km per annum of driving. Even my June 2015 Honda City AT has less than 25,000 km on odo.

I have zeroed on a Toyota Yaris VX CVT silver which is Toyota certified. 2018 and 27,000 km. Price is 10.5 which I will try to bring down. I have sources in Toyota and so far do not feel bothered about whether it is a lemon. It is not a TD car but a demo car with single drive for senior manager. But technical evaluation will tell the story. The other choice now is a 67,000 km Altis 2016 CVT for 11.5.

The main point is parts availability after 5-10 years and resale. Resale is no bother since I plan to keep it to end of life of mine or car. But with Toyota, if you want to buy Toyota made, Innova is the cheapest. No point in paying 25 lakhs for driving 2,000 km pa. I dont dig the City as much.

Should I go ahead given these considerations.
Thanks

[Meph1st0]

Posting it here in the Yaris thread.
What could be a fair price for a well-maintained 2018 Yaris VX CVT with ODO in the range of 20k~30k kms? The quotes (mostly dealer) I see are mostly in the range of 11.xx lakhs which I think is high.
I know Yaris is discontinued and will be replaced with Ciaz but spares should not be a problem as long as Toyota stays in India. I am not worried about resale or the fact that Yaris was not a hit. Or should I not consider Yaris at all?
This car ticks a lot of boxes for me and hence my interest.

[Simhi]

Originally Posted by Meph1st0

Posting it here in the Yaris thread.
What could be a fair price for a well-maintained 2018 Yaris VX CVT with ODO in the range of 20k~30k kms? The quotes (mostly dealer) I see are mostly in the range of 11.xx lakhs which I think is high.
I know Yaris is discontinued and will be replaced with Ciaz but spares should not be a problem as long as Toyota stays in India. I am not worried about resale or the fact that Yaris was not a hit. Or should I not consider Yaris at all?
This car ticks a lot of boxes for me and hence my interest.

You should consider a minimum of 40% depreciation. Additionally, you should negotiate further considering the fact that production is stopped. In Pune, in 2018, VX CVT was costing around 15 lacs OTR. I would look at 8 to 8.5 lacs if I were in market now. I feel 11 lacs is on higher side.

[Meph1st0]

Originally Posted by Simhi

You should consider a minimum of 40% depreciation. Additionally, you should negotiate further considering the fact that production is stopped. In Pune, in 2018, VX CVT was costing around 15 lacs OTR. I would look at 8 to 8.5 lacs if I were in market now. I feel 11 lacs is on higher side.

Thanks for the inputs. I think Yaris was launched around 14 lakhs for VX CVT. Just considering the road tax and insurance, on-road should be around 17 lakhs in Bangalore. I guess you have factored in the discounts as well.

[vasudeva]

Have a query on my recent Yaris vx cVT purchase. I usually keep the car unlocked for the night in the safety of our apartment complex. Please no comments or warning on this!!!. But I see a light blinking at least for a minute in the speedo setup. Beyond that, I don't monitor and enter my home. Will it drain the battery.

[vasudeva]

Originally Posted by Meph1st0

Posting it here in the Yaris thread.
What could be a fair price for a well-maintained 2018 Yaris VX CVT with ODO in the range of 20k~30k kms? The quotes (mostly dealer) I see are mostly in the range of 11.xx lakhs which I think is high.
I know Yaris is discontinued and will be replaced with Ciaz but spares should not be a problem as long as Toyota stays in India. I am not worried about resale or the fact that Yaris was not a hit. Or should I not consider Yaris at all?
This car ticks a lot of boxes for me and hence my interest.

I have recently bought a Yaris vx cvt 2018 that has been in excellent condition with 26000 km on odo. As my driving is less than 3000 km per annum, another 10 years will bring it to maybe 65000, if it holds its toyota quality and my initial tech evaluation. I think it will but that is my judgement. This was from toyota trust. I paid 9.9 less 75000 for my old corolla. Yes the price may look a bit high but then this Yaris ticked all the requirements that I had for a used car. Toyota, silver, CVT, top end, leather, less driven, clean, technical condition. In a used car, it is tougher to get everything you want in 1 specific piece unless you really hunt. In this case, I got everything and for that an extra 20000 to 30000 won't matter to me in long term. I had a choice to buy a new urban cruiser or a Honda. But having owned a corolla for 14 years, I had no problem in buying a toyoya but maybe not a maruti toyota. Innova is not for me and that left me with only used Yaris or corolla. I have a Honda city new of 2015. But I don't like honda so much. Plus I can have 2 Toyota but not 2 honda. In a used car, the probability goes down as you start ticking all your preferences. Plus the population of a Yaris that is sold is much less than say a wagon r. So in used, you also get lesser number of cars that tick all the boxes for you. So if you feel that the car is right for me and you want to keep it for long, why not pay extra. But still 11 is too high unless it is a bs 6 car of 2020 onwards. bought a bs4 car that has an invoice of perhaps 14.8.

[Simhi]

Originally Posted by vasudeva

But I see a light blinking at least for a minute in the speedo setup. Beyond that, I don't monitor and enter my home. Will it drain the battery.

I think you are referring to the security indicator which keeps flashing. That's fine and it should not drain the battery.

Originally Posted by vasudeva

I have recently bought a Yaris vx cvt 2018 that has been in excellent condition with 26000 km on odo.

Congratulation on your purchase and welcome to the small family of Yaris owners.

[vasudeva]

Originally Posted by Simhi

I think you are referring to the security indicator which keeps flashing. That's fine and it should not drain the battery.



Congratulation on your purchase and welcome to the small family of Yaris owners.

Thanks. Considering my age of 55 and the fact that I dont drive much now (WFH, maybe 1,000-2,000 pm), I found this to be far better. I may be quitting my job during 2022 too. I did not care at all that:
1. it was discontinued
2. it did not sell (so did my first Corolla 2007 which got creamed by Civic from 2006)
3. it was used (did my own work and have contacts in toyota over 15 years)
4. parts availability may be an issue maybe after a few years (will deal with it when it comes).

What I wanted, I got. So no issues. The only issue is the steering grip of Yaris vs Corolla. The old Corolla had a fantastic steering that was thinner and one could cut so fast. The Yaris steering is the `modern' one that is thicker and clunky. But same is the case in nearly all cars now. So cant help it.

[anand253]

Originally Posted by Meph1st0

Thanks for the inputs. I think Yaris was launched around 14 lakhs for VX CVT. Just considering the road tax and insurance, on-road should be around 17 lakhs in Bangalore. I guess you have factored in the discounts as well.

Hi,

May I check where your negotiations stand. Someone known has looked at a VX CVT 2018 sparingly used and dealer is firm around 9.8 levels. Even I think the on-road would have been close to 16 here in Mumbai when it was initially launched although there were discounts starting 2019 onwards so not sure if this is still a good deal.

Regards

[Meph1st0]

Originally Posted by anand253

May I check where your negotiations stand. Someone known has looked at a VX CVT 2018 sparingly used and dealer is firm around 9.8 levels. Even I think the on-road would have been close to 16 here in Mumbai when it was initially launched although there were discounts starting 2019 onwards so not sure if this is still a good deal.

Regards

I could not go to the dealer's place to check the car. Will try probably this weekend or next.

[Palio_2005]

Hi. I am thinking of upgrading my Yaris alloys to 16 Inch with a 205/R16 tyre profile. Has anyone done this? If yes, could you let me know the positive and negatives? Does this void the warranty?

[vasudeva]

Just wish to know two things and would be grateful for advice.
1. My Yaris has 185 60r15 tyres of Bridgestone turanza. While I have no issues with handling, ride or tyre quality, would it matter to go to 195 60 r15.
2. Tyres are 27000 km old and I want to buy at least 2 new for front. This is a used car, and I thought spending some money on this won't cause much hurt to my wallet. Just feel like it
3. In that case, do I just buy 2 of 185 60 r15 at around 10 to 11k or 5 of 195 60 r15 at 30k. Won't be a financial strain but I am confused on upsizing.
4. No matter what, which brand would be great. I have had great experience with Bridgestone but not so much with Michelin primacy on my old corolla.
5. My drive is hardly 3000 km per year so whatever I do including upsize should last me for 7 to 8 years maybe. I am 55 now, and that explains a lot. I need for a longer time.

[Simhi]

Originally Posted by vasudeva

Just wish to know two things and would be grateful for advice.
1. My Yaris has 185 60r15 tyres of Bridgestone turanza. While I have no issues with handling, ride or tyre quality, would it matter to go to 195 60 r15.

195/60 R15 is a safe choice as difference in diameter would be less than 2.5%. Ground clearance will increase by 6mm. You will get better grip but steering might become little hard.

Originally Posted by vasudeva

2. Tyres are 27000 km old and I want to buy at least 2 new for front. This is a used car, and I thought spending some money on this won't cause much hurt to my wallet. Just feel like it
3. In that case, do I just buy 2 of 185 60 r15 at around 10 to 11k or 5 of 195 60 r15 at 30k. Won't be a financial strain but I am confused on upsizing.

How much tread is left? You can check with any reputed tyre shop to see how much life is left. If the tyre is in good condition, you can use it till 45-50K.

Originally Posted by vasudeva

4. No matter what, which brand would be great. I have had great experience with Bridgestone but not so much with Michelin primacy on my old corolla.

Both are good brands but my preference is XM2 and XM2 is available in both the size 185/60 R15 as well as 195/60 R15.

Originally Posted by vasudeva

5. My drive is hardly 3000 km per year so whatever I do including upsize should last me for 7 to 8 years maybe. I am 55 now, and that explains a lot. I need for a longer time.

Even if the usage is less, tyre should be regularly inspected for tread wear and cracks after 4 to 5 years.

[vasudeva]

Maybe in a conventional sense 185/60 r15 seems smaller than 195/60 r15 but that is mainly perceptual for me as I earlier had a Corolla with 195/65 r15. Thus, a `feeling' of running on thinner tyres. Yaris handling and cornering is great for me even at 185/65 r15 and I fear that 195/65 r15 may lead to some worsening. Comfort-wise, it is great overall and at 185/60 r15. With that in mind, should I move from 185/60 r15 to 195/60 r15. I presume 205/55 r15 will not be advisable even though the difference is 1% (it is 2% on 195/60 r15).

[Simhi]

Originally Posted by vasudeva

With that in mind, should I move from 185/60 r15 to 195/60 r15. I presume 205/55 r15 will not be advisable even though the difference is 1% (it is 2% on 195/60 r15).

If you are ready for upgrade, then 195/60 R15 makes sense. I am not sure if 205/55 is available in 15 inch size. I think it is available in 16 inch size. So, you will need to change the alloy too if you are going with 205/55.