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Old 6th June 2019, 10:25   #166
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On a similar note as above, I have owned only manuals all my life. Have driven AT's but not enough to get used to them.

What do I have to learn/unlearn to get used to an AT?
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On a similar note as above, I have owned only manuals all my life. Have driven AT's but not enough to get used to them.

What do I have to learn/unlearn to get used to an AT?
Others can add more points but the most important thing for me was to stop thinking of the brake pad as the clutch. After driving manuals for close to 10 years, I shifted to the City CVT and it was a very weird experience for the first few weeks. I did not take the car out during the day and treated myself as an amateur and took it out on test runs post mid night. My left leg would reach out for the brake pad (thinking it was the clutch) as soon as I approached a speed breaker or a pothole and would end up braking hard. It took a few more days for me to get used to things. Apart from that, stop fiddling with the gear lever and just enjoy the convenience.
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On a similar note as above, I have owned only manuals all my life. Have driven AT's but not enough to get used to them.

What do I have to learn/unlearn to get used to an AT?
After several years of driving a manual Punto, I bought a Jazz CVT. When you own a car / SUV with an automatic transmission after moving from a manual transmission vehicle, the main thing that you need to do is to force your left leg onto the dead pedal and make it ignore muscle memory. You might find your leg searching for the C pedal while driving as a force of habit from your days of driving a manual car.

Also if your left hand is usually by the gearbox (all too common in city conditions), you will have to "train" it to hold the steering wheel all the time with the automatic. This will gradually get your body used to driving an automatic transmission vehicle and unlearn the clutch shifting tendencies that our bodies memorize.
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On a similar note as above, I have owned only manuals all my life. Have driven AT's but not enough to get used to them.

What do I have to learn/unlearn to get used to an AT?
We already have a thread on tips to driving automatic cars.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...omatic-25.html (Tips on driving an Automatic)

Probably best to discuss it there
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Congrats on your acquisition and hope your ownership remains niggle-free.
Thank you my friend!

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On the MID FE numbers, please don't trust new age Tata vehicles. If you are keen on knowing the FE, calculate it Tankful-to-tankful. My Nexon shows 20% more FE on the MID, which means, if it is showing 20kmpl on the MID the actual FE would be ~16kmpl. I am assuming Harrier is also bitten by this bug. But anyways, 19.5 even on the MID is very very good.
Yes, I will do a proper tankful-to-tankful method after a couple of thousand kms.

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Since your car is from the newer batch, how is the NVH? Were you able to compare it with initial lot test drive vehicles?
Before I purchased my Harrier, I had taken 3 test drives on TD cars which were from January batch (I think). The noise and harshness are a lot lesser in my car (April make) compared to the TD cars. On the vibration front, my Harrier's steering vibrates a bit on idling when it is on Eco mode. The vibration stops the moment I put it on City/Sport mode. Gear lever does not vibrate on any modes.

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Please share your thoughts on the 'light steering' issue once you do a highway drive!
I did not find the steering to be 'light' on my highway drives. As I owned and drove a petrol Creta previously, I find the steering on Harrier to be just right for my driving style (usually I do not drive at 100+kmph on highways). I feel the steering needs some more effort to manoeuvre in city (read while parking) compared to the super light steering of Creta!

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Somehow missed the official Harrier review until this morning!

Every single auto magazine and auto reviewer should look at the official Team-BHP review for reference! This is the benchmark by a huge margin. I do not think anyone should ever buy any car without ever reading the official review here! The detail is just beyond words! Thank you to the team which does this so diligently!

Coming to the Harrier, I think the post from GTO just sums it up. Tata could have done something phenomenal here. But it looks like the Harrier is not so. And Im surprised as to why the harrier is not at par with the Hexa and the Nexon in terms of consistency in fit and finish.

But the Harrier has presence and tons of it. And its priced well. But the real issue would be if the Hector and the Kia Seltos launch in the same price point. And it looks like they will. And then Tata has to respond. And I hope they do it super quick!
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But the real issue would be if the Hector and the Kia Seltos launch in the same price point. And it looks like they will. And then Tata has to respond. And I hope they do it super quick!

Based on early indications of pricing going on in the Hector thread, it looks like it will be priced much higher than the Harrier. The top end Variant of the Hector is likely to be priced at 27.5 Lacs on-road from what I could gather from that thread. Compare that to a top-end Harrier which retails at a little less than 20 lacs on-road, it would seem to me that the Hector is being placed 1-2 segments above the Harrier.

On an unrelated point, TAMO seems to be stealthily hiking the prices of the Harrier. At launch the ex-showroom price of the base XE variant was 12.69 lakhs, but now I cannot see any city where it is less than 12.99 Lakhs. The deceptive thing is that the headline of the page says "Harrier priced from 12.69 lakhs ex-showroom Delhi", but scroll on down the page, the Delhi pricing for XE is shown to be 12.99 Lakhs!

https://harrier.tatamotors.com/price

Similarly, the XZ variant was priced at 16.25 Lakhs at Launch and now it is priced at 16.55 Lakhs.

Bottom line, it appears TAMO has hiked the price of the Harrier already by 30K across variants.

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I went to check out the Harrier this weekend. We are considering it for my dad.
I wasn't able to TD the car, just checked out the car. Checked out the Copper and the Grey versions, i liked the Grey more, but my pick would be the White.
I liked the overall design, very butch and definitely has presence. The OVRMs are huge (as well spoken about), but i was of the opinion that this won't be much of an issue if careful.
The interiors were good, i liked the dashboard layout, materials used, overall look. I liked the central console design, but my wife found it cluttered for her liking. The rear was a notch lower in quality when compared to the front, but good nonetheless. The armrests seem to have been placed a little higher, i found it comfortable, my wife found it too highly placed, especially at the rear. I found the drivers seat adequate but car like. I would've preferred the seat squab to be a bit longer. The rear seat was good overall. The fit and finish was a hit or a miss, found the panel on inner front passenger door was bit off, rough finishing around the central console storage areas.
Coming to the reason for this post, I was facing the issue of the left knee fouling with the central console, i tried various seating positions but to no avail (I am 5'11" for reference). Do any of the Harrier owners face this issue and is there a way around this? Is it too uncomfortable during long drives?
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Coming to the reason for this post, I was facing the issue of the left knee fouling with the central console, i tried various seating positions but to no avail (I am 5'11" for reference). Do any of the Harrier owners face this issue and is there a way around this? Is it too uncomfortable during long drives?
Hi, I am also of the same height and while it does take a day or two to settle into your own driving position, I have not faced an issue with my left knee bumping into the centre console. And, it is a pleasure driving the car on the highway. I did a 2,500 round trip from Hyderabad to Coorg and did not face any discomfort of fatigue even after driving the car non-stop for 14 hours.
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Tata has hiked the prices by 30,755Rs across variants.

Ex showroom prices Delhi.

Tata Harrier XE - Rs 13 lakhs

Tata Harrier XM - Rs 14.06 lakhs

Tata Harrier XT - Rs 15.26 lakhs

Tata Harrier XZ - Rs 16.56 lakhs

Source: https://www.carwale.com/news/tata-ha...ased-in-india/

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There is complete radio silence from Tata Motors on the Harrier automatic!
No leaks, no sneaky exclusives from the regular sources. Especially in the face of two major launches from MG and Kia!

They need to take a page out of the way MG has been communicating with potential customers.
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Tata hikes prices a day before MG Hector reviews came out. Speaks of their confidence and reiterates that HARRIER is having one of the longest waiting periods in the market.
https://www.cardekho.com/india-car-n...2019-23849.htm
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Tata hikes prices a day before MG Hector reviews came out. Speaks of their confidence and reiterates that HARRIER is having one of the longest waiting periods in the market.
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Hopefully that is justified. Looking at the early reviews the MG is a solid product. Couple that with a long and unlimited mileage warranty it *could* just turn the tables on Tata.

Personally, I just hope either of them launches a diesel automatic soon!
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