[Maverick Avi]

Originally Posted by tharian

It is surprising since a petrol engine battery for a small engine especially should easily last 5 years. Has anyone experienced this.

My 1.2 AMT is going to complete 5 years this December. No signs of battery acting up till now. Your battery must be in warranty so should be replaced easily.

[tharian]

Originally Posted by Maverick Avi

My 1.2 AMT is going to complete 5 years this December. No signs of battery acting up till now. Your battery must be in warranty so should be replaced easily.

I charged the battery and it seems fine now. If it happens again, I will check for a replacement through warranty.

[sairamboko]

Hi All! Planning to purchase a Wagon R ZXI+ 1.2 AGS. Hows the AMT gearbox performance? Any major issues observed like gearbox failures or jerks? Also has anybody upgraded the headlamps? My usage will be mainly city plus occasional highway trips. Wagon R seems to fit my requirement of a spacy and cheap automatic car. Your inputs will be helpful in finalizing my decision.

[Knightrider]

Originally Posted by sairamboko

Hi All! Planning to purchase a Wagon R ZXI+ 1.2 AGS. Hows the AMT gearbox performance? Any major issues observed like gearbox failures or jerks?

We got Wagon-R ZXI AGS in Black color last year. The AMT in Marutis is much better now. The jerks and head-nods while gear shifts are very minimal and you get adjusted to it soon. You can go ahead with it. It is a no non-sense car.

[coolclouds]

Hi!

Looking for an automatic which is fun to drive, cheap, fuel efficient with decent ground clearance. Looks and features are good to have, not mandatory!

Daily 100 kms drive in which half will be within city.

Cars considered are mid variants of Wagon R / Ignis / Swift & Baleno only. With lot of discounts and offers for 2024 inventory, kindly advise the good option keeping above points in mind.

Rgds,
J

[Chetan_Rao]

Originally Posted by coolclouds

Hi!

Looking for an automatic which is fun to drive, cheap, fuel efficient with decent ground clearance. Looks and features are good to have, not mandatory!

Daily 100 kms drive in which half will be within city.

Cars considered are mid variants of Wagon R / Ignis / Swift & Baleno only. With lot of discounts and offers for 2024 inventory, kindly advise the good option keeping above points in mind.

Rgds,
J

If you can score a good discount, Ignis is your best bet for a fun little hatch! AMT behavior is pretty much identical on all the 1.2 motors, so that's not a differentiator.

Ignis is one of the better built Marutis; small, chuckable, decent ground clearance and a hoot of a motor. Get that K12B 4-pot before it's phased out.

If you're flexible on color choices and slightly older stock, you might be able to negotiate an Ignis Alpha for the price of a mid-spec Swift/Baleno.

[Aditya_Bhp]

Originally Posted by coolclouds

Hi!

Looking for an automatic which is fun to drive, cheap, fuel efficient with decent ground clearance. Looks and features are good to have, not mandatory!

Daily 100 kms drive in which half will be within city.

100kms is a lot. Among the set of cars, Ignis is a genaration old, has just 2 airbags, has the less fuel efficient K12B.
Wagon R is too basic for 100kms daily.

Swift vs Baleno it is. Both are priced similar, +/- 30000rs. Swift is more fuel efficient, has the newer Z12 engine. Baleno AMT is better on performance with the refined K12N, fuel efficiency is good, has good space, ground clearance won't be an issue.

If budget isn't a problem, you can look at the Fronx AMT, but then its available only in the base Delta version. For the same price, you will be able to get a Baleno Alpha.

[andymuk]

Originally Posted by Motard_Blr

Thanks for the great detailed review!

I do have one criticism, though.



This paragraph seems to be useless as the ARAI figures have no basis in real world conditions. For example, though the Tiago has the best ARAI number, in the real world, it has the lowest because of the weight.

It might be a better to just have the city average and the highway average mileages as recorded during the test period.

Purchased a WagonR 1.2 MT ZXi+ on Nov 18 2024.
Have covered 2700 Km with City and Highway driving 50:50.
Getting an average of 23.7 Km/L.
The ARAI figure states 24.35 KM/L.
So, not very far off. . .
Would be nice if someone could clarify whether the AVG Km/L displayed on the dashboard tacho is the average from the beginning or only for the session when the car is started in the morning, . . . or something else

[Maverick Avi]

Originally Posted by andymuk

Would be nice if someone could clarify whether the AVG Km/L displayed on the dashboard tacho is the average from the beginning or only for the session when the car is started in the morning, . . . or something else

The average is from the time it was last reset.

Originally Posted by coolclouds

Hi!

Looking for an automatic which is fun to drive, cheap, fuel efficient with decent ground clearance. Looks and features are good to have, not mandatory!

Daily 100 kms drive in which half will be within city.

Cars considered are mid variants of Wagon R / Ignis / Swift & Baleno only. With lot of discounts and offers for 2024 inventory, kindly advise the good option keeping above points in mind.

Rgds,
J

I would consider the Swift because it comes with the latest engine advancements from Maruti including a much smoother AMT experience.

Originally Posted by sairamboko

Hi All! Planning to purchase a Wagon R ZXI+ 1.2 AGS. Hows the AMT gearbox performance? Any major issues observed like gearbox failures or jerks? Also has anybody upgraded the headlamps? My usage will be mainly city plus occasional highway trips. Wagon R seems to fit my requirement of a spacy and cheap automatic car. Your inputs will be helpful in finalizing my decision.

No issues what so ever for the last 5 years. But if you are buying 1.2 engine thinking it would be more peppy then please be aware that its not the case. AMT masks the advantage of that extra pot and if I would have an option to go back and change my decision maybe would have opted for 1.0L engine and saved a few bucks along with getting better fuel efficiency.

[sairamboko]

Originally Posted by sairamboko

Hi All! Planning to purchase a Wagon R ZXI+ 1.2 AGS. Hows the AMT gearbox performance? Any major issues observed like gearbox failures or jerks? Also has anybody upgraded the headlamps? My usage will be mainly city plus occasional highway trips. Wagon R seems to fit my requirement of a spacy and cheap automatic car. Your inputs will be helpful in finalizing my decision.

Drove my father's wagon r - 1.2 manual . It was peppy but after crossing 80kms/h engine noise was loud and I felt not confident. Test drove the AMT too, couldn’t convince myself with Wagon R. Test drove the punch , though the engine felt a bit jerky in AMT I felt confident in driving it. Booked a Punch accomplished + AMT last week after my family also gave green signal. They are happy with the punch due to its modern design and well designed interiors. I still feel wagon r is strictly a city car and not suitable for highway runs . Thank you all for your inputs !

[nax04]

Originally Posted by Maverick Avi

The average is from the time it was last reset.



I would consider the Swift because it comes with the latest engine advancements from Maruti including a much smoother AMT experience.



No issues what so ever for the last 5 years. But if you are buying 1.2 engine thinking it would be more peppy then please be aware that its not the case. AMT masks the advantage of that extra pot and if I would have an option to go back and change my decision maybe would have opted for 1.0L engine and saved a few bucks along with getting better fuel efficiency.

You can extract more from 1.2 engine by shifting it in manual mode. You can easily revv happily until 2.5K to 3K RPM and then upshift. I do it on highways and find it much better.

[Maverick Avi]

Originally Posted by nax04

You can extract more from 1.2 engine by shifting it in manual mode. You can easily revv happily until 2.5K to 3K RPM and then upshift. I do it on highways and find it much better.

Agree that shifting to manual helps but still it's nowhere near to actual manual transmission. For instance I remember that once on a highway I had to overtake a Celerio and shifted to manual. While overtaking the driver of Celerio suddenly got into a drag race mood and started accelerating. Being on a single lane highway I completely slammed down the accelerator pedal only to realise that it was not working and Celerio was racing ahead. Eventually I had to let go and back off to avoid any risk. Was quite dejected seeing that a older 1.0 litre engine had made a good mockery of the famed 1.2. And this was not due to the engine but the way AMT behaves. It's definitely not for enthusiasts and hence I feel that choosing 1.2 over 1.0 doesn't make much sense in AMT avatar of Wagon R.

One area that might be an advantage is that based on some reviews the AMT works better with 1.2 engine due to better torque and hence fewer chances of early clutch replacement. Can hold true as there were lot of clutch replacements that happened for the initial Celerio AMTs. Not hearing similar stories for Dzires, Swift's or Ignis.

[saikishor]

Does Maruti still offer the 1.2 liter engine with the AMT? I heard my aunt booked one in Maroon at Kurnool, and was given a waiting period because of the color choice.