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Old 5th April 2020, 11:12   #736
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Last few days in our whats app group for Seltos owners, few have reported total battery draining when the car hasn't been started for 4-5 days. Appears like it's a norm as connected cars seems to be draining more battery during extended days of parking. This is noticed now owing to many cars being parked due to the lockdown. As per my understanding, the following features may suck a bit more juice out of battery when the car is parked.

1. Connected features like Uvo
2. Engine Immobilizer

I also suspect if the car is parked in garages and basements where the mobile signals are weak or intermittent, the U SIM may be extracting more power to keep it running ( just like our mobile phones in a similar scenario - when signals are weak a mobile device drains more battery) . Would that be the case here too ?

Besides, the car care tips released by Kia during lockdown also suggest to start the car every 3 days which means they too don't expect the car's battery to last more than that. Otherwise a petrol car ( sans the connected features) could be started even after a month and a half of parking and diesel cars even after 3 weeks.

Would like to hear fellow bhpians' response on this.Thank You

Note : Just realizing the remote engine start via UVO is such an useful feature under these circumstances and I'm making full use of it.
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Last few days in our whats app group for Seltos owners, few have reported total battery draining when the car hasn't been started for 4-5 days. Appears like it's a norm as connected cars seems to be draining more battery during extended days of parking.
I drive a HTK+ diesel MT without any connected features such as UVO app. In the recent past, I have left the car unused upto 16 days and never observed any battery draining issue. During this lockdown, I have driven the car every 4-5 days without any hiccups. FYI, I don't have any external or aftermarket device fitted in the car. So you can rule out the immobilizer.

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Last few days in our whats app group for Seltos owners, few have reported total battery draining when the car hasn't been started for 4-5 days. Appears like it's a norm as connected cars seems to be draining more battery during extended days of parking. This is noticed now owing to many cars being parked due to the lockdown. As per my understanding, the following features may suck a bit more juice out of battery when the car is parked.

1. Connected features like Uvo
2. Engine Immobilizer

I also suspect if the car is parked in garages and basements where the mobile signals are weak or intermittent, the U SIM may be extracting more power to keep it running ( just like our mobile phones in a similar scenario - when signals are weak a mobile device drains more battery) . Would that be the case here too ?

Besides, the car care tips released by Kia during lockdown also suggest to start the car every 3 days which means they too don't expect the car's battery to last more than that. Otherwise a petrol car ( sans the connected features) could be started even after a month and a half of parking and diesel cars even after 3 weeks.

Would like to hear fellow bhpians' response on this.Thank You

Note : Just realizing the remote engine start via UVO is such an useful feature under these circumstances and I'm making full use of it.
I've also been starting my seltos IVT once every 3 days, couple of times through UVO app. Yesterday in the evening took it for a small spin of about 1 km just to warm up the machinery. I was also a little worried after i saw a post here which said battery had gone dead but no such issues in my car. i think there might have been some other problem in those cases. Yes UVO connect is very helpful to start the car & idle for a while
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I started my seltox gtx+ dct after a gap of 12 days and it started without any fuss. Will try again tomorrow after a gap of 8 days. Hoping the battery hasn't died by now 🤔.
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I have started gtx+ dct after 14 days and it started without any issues. After that it crossed a week now, not sure if it is going to be the same again. I don't want to use remote start / stop feature atleast for this long time interval as any bug in the UVO can trigger battery issues which I don't want to experiment atleast in the current scenario
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Haven't faced any issues. When i never got my car number. The car sat in my garage for a week. Now too its sitting. I open UVO to see if the car is giving back data on drive history, etc.
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I drove my GTX+ DCT today after being parked in a basement for 15 days, but didn't face any issues. Considering the other responses to bibendum's post as well, the instances in the WhatsApp chat group referred to by bibendum are possibly an anomaly or at the very minimum not as widespread or extremely prevalent.
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Received this from the SA at Kia. Might be beneficial for Seltos owners.

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Relevant article for DPF-equipped diesel vehicles once the lockdown is eased, and most journeys become shorter and/or irregular.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tips-a...uring-lockdown

The catch with DPFs is that they only have a limited capacity and at some point the excess soot needs to be burned off. In order to do that, the car needs to be driven for around 15 to 20 minutes at 2,500rpm or higher. This process is known as DPF regeneration.

The Independent Garage Association (IGA) has warned that if people are only using their diesel cars for short journeys during the lockdown, though, their DPFs might not be able to regenerate. The organisation advises owners of modern diesel cars to avoid using them for trips of less than 10 to 15 miles in order to avoid clogging up the DPF.

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With regard to point #3 of keeping the aircon on for some minutes with windows down, it would be advisable to do so outside a closed garage. I know very few people have the luxury of closed garages in India. Also, even in the open, it's advisable to park the car into the wind so that exhaust gases move away from car. If you park downwind, exhaust fumes enter car when windows are rolled down. My parking is such that I back out full 80 feet before I hit the road. I have this practice of driving some 250 metres with windows down to aerate the interior and also to "exercise" the glasses up and down at least once a day for free movement. But, I do this after I have done backing out and when I shift into forward drive.
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Relevant article for DPF-equipped diesel vehicles once the lockdown is eased, and most journeys become shorter and/or irregular.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tips-a...uring-lockdown
The catch with DPFs is that they only have a limited capacity and at some point the excess soot needs to be burned off. In order to do that, the car needs to be driven for around 15 to 20 minutes at 2,500rpm or higher. This process is known as DPF regeneration.
I think there is a slight mistake in how they have worded it technically. DPF is Diesel Particulate Filter. There are two types of it - LNT-DPF and SCR-DPF.

LNT = Lean NOx Trap. This is the type in which the excess deposits have to be burnt off once in a while using extra diesel injection into the catalytic substrate. This process regenerates the surface that absorbs the soot actively. These are the systems that don't need a separate Urea fluid (AdBlue).

In the article, they have used the term DPF interchanged for LNT-DPF as a blanket it seems.
(LNT is used in the Seltos/Creta 1.5L and even the homegrown 1.5L diesel engines - so what you have mentioned indeed is correct for this thread.)
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Below image was shared by a Seltos owner. Does anyone know how such an alarm gets triggered. In fact all his doors are locked.

I've gone through the UVO settings and couldn't find such a setting for a door ajar alarm. Has anyone got this message in their Uvo app? What could be the issue here
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Below image was shared by a Seltos owner. Does anyone know how such an alarm gets triggered. In fact all his doors are locked.

I've gone through the UVO settings and couldn't find such a setting for a door ajar alarm. Has anyone got this message in their Uvo app? What could be the issue here
The weird thing is i got the same notification yesterday at the same time. Maybe some glitch from the app.
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Below image was shared by a Seltos owner. Does anyone know how such an alarm gets triggered. In fact all his doors are locked.
I have received not exactly the same error, but a message in the UVO app stating "Unauthorized Access", I guess these both would be some way related. Because in my case even though the bonnet was shut, the bonnet wire which connects to the system was chewed by a rat, also the MID had the bonnet open indicator. I couldn't drive the car as it was beeping badly, finally, the service person visited my apartment and fixed it.
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I am not sure about Diesel AT since I haven't driven it yet but I have a petrol GTX+ DCT in which the behavior is totally different in normal D mode Vs you shift to Right from D position. The moment you shift it from normal D Mode to the Right which is indicated with "S" on console, the RPM goes high about 800 or so compared to normal mode D and you can definitely feel the change in behavior and is more aggressive without even having to use + or - manually and depending upon the accelerator position it agressively upshift/downshift without waiting for user +/- inputs. However if you press + or - manually atleast once, the behavior will again change and it will try to redline on each gear while accelarating unless you manually upshift, similarly when decelerating it will wait for speed/rpm to drop to the predefined threshold unless we manually downshift.
Apart from this "S" mode there is a "SPORTS" Mode in GTX+ DCT which is selected by using a round knob near to the gear shifter. There the behavior is really aggressive and even the steering is weighted enough to give you more confidence. I am not sure if it is there for Diesel AT. Do you have it? May be it is specific to GT line only and HT line may not have it I guess
Quick question. Is it advisable to change the Drive Mode while driving? Like can I go from Normal mode to Sport mode when the vehicle is moving at say 80kmph?
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