[kvsneela]

Originally Posted by manij

I have booked S-presso and should be getting delivery shortly. This car is in Bangalore, and is an AGS (AMT) model.

I also have a S-presso manual transmission car in my home-town which I bought last year. Both are VXI+ variants.

The car's 'narrow' dimensions along with decent performance is a key reason for me buying a second S-presso.

My other car in Bangalore currently is a Toyota Camry. Am significantly biased towards S-presso for navigation comfort (on either crowded OR narrow streets) and parking in the city, while Camry is definitely much better for highways and longer/faster drives. In Bangalore, I also have a Suzuki Burgman 125 which I find even more comfortable (than even the S-presso) for day to day city commute (exception being when it rains).

I realize I have been adding accessories for updating external looks on my home-town car (which in my opinion has significant impact on S-presso's looks), consequently this time have bought quite some of the accessories upfront fitted onto the new car. This includes under chassis coating (hides the body color inside wheel wells), wheel cladding, body cladding on the sides, rear spoiler, rat-mesh, front chrome grill, door visor, etc. No accessories added done inside the car other than regular mats, can do over time.

Have a few questions on potential upgrades please.

1) For the inside rear view mirror in the car in my home-town, I have appended a larger mirror (I had bought that few years back from Ali Express when I still could use the site / buy from China), that is a 'convex' mirror as well as anti-reflection. Since accessing Ali Express is currently blocked, had recently bought one I expected to be similar from Amazon India - while the description indicated convex lens, what was delivered was flat glass mirror though with blue anti-reflective coating. I prefer the option (with convex mirror) for wider view as compared to replacing with Wagon-R/Celerio IRVM (part 84703M55R10-6GS) for reducing reflection. Please advise in case of any suggestions on alternates.

2) To add the missing rear right side reversing light (requiring drilling and additional wiring), any suggestions on where to have this done? Showroom has refused to do this.

3) Prefer to add rear view camera, though not very urgent. Showroom only sells the MGA camera which is not very good at night (when it is needed more), and also seems quite rudimentary. Any suggestions on choices here? Or is the Blaupunkt DH06 the optimal one to get? Would there be other / easy options to add 360 degree camera or the like?

4) Since I have added wheel claddings, I have been told I cannot add front mud-guard. Any suggestions if front mud-guard can still be added?

5) Would like to upgrade the audio on my Bangalore S-presso car as I believe I will end up spending quite some time in it in the coming days with increasing commute/time due to reduction in WFH and needing to work more from office. Hope I can use the same audio unit that comes stock with the car and upgrade speakers. My current understanding is:
- Speakers: The head unit (Suzuki Smartplay Studio) is made by Harman. Presume it has 4 speaker outs - 2 of which are connected to the 2 existing speakers, presume I can add 2 component speakers in front and move the existing 2 speakers from front to back. Showroom has refused to do - the accessories person said they could add 2 tweeters on the A-pillar at max. From some Youtube videos I understand there is additional wiring provided / running till the B-pillars, which can be used/extended for connecting 2 other speakers into the rear doors (after suitable adjustments on doorpads).
- Subwoofer: I also presume it is possible to add an active subwoofer - maybe 'under the seat' or 'inside the spare wheel' type so as to not lose space. I believe the spare wheel for S-Presso is 13 inch sized one...the decent sub-woofers to be placed 'inside the spare wheel' that I know of are those that can be placed inside 14-inch wheels or bigger, not sure if there in are any good ones with option of placing inside 13 inch spare wheel.

Please advise if the head unit can be used in this way, or needs to be replaced?

Any suggestions on speakers, and where to have the work done in Bangalore?

I am nowhere near being an 'audiophile' though I appreciate nice audio. For context, one of my references is when I was travelling in the backseat of my friend's Toyota car in Manila, I could hear church bells ringing at a distance 'above' my head and I was looking out of the car all around trying to see where the church was and what was happening there, before realizing it was part of the music. Not sure if that was some kind of 'Atmos'/over-the-head effect (my friend did not think it was a big deal, and said it was stock car speakers), but to me was way superior to what I had been exposed to and would like to include if possible.

Dear Manij,
Regarding to your queries following are my takings:( before going for additional electrical gadgets , better to keep the warranty in mind.Since booking is for AGS version better go for extended warranty as AMT box cannot be trusted).

1. Regarding the inside mirror , I don't have much idea as I never wanted to change the original setup which is adequate for me( wife too)..

2.Regarding reverse light, adding the second one is better than having only one but I think there is no provision on the other side without cutting wires. No wonder dealership refused to do.

3. Yes .. the Maruti supplied rear view camera ( for 5600/-) is a crap and one can get good ones for even half of that price outside. There are lot of models to chose from( looks like all are made in china including branded). There is a seperate topic available here also. All of them require a special connector to connect to Smartstudio which Accessories shop should be able to provide.

4. Yes .. if you add front wheel cladding , u cannot install front mud flaps. First the wheel cladding blocks the screw holes of mud flaps. Secondly there won't be enough space between the body and the front tyres. ( Requires a special thin mud flap like Kwid).

5. Suzuki Smart Studio has provision for 4 speakers and rear speaker wires are terminated at a connector behind the B Pillar panel ( between the rear door keels and front passenger seat belt). This connector will have 4 wires oneside and 2 wires on the other side. Missing 2 wires are for rear speakers ( need to connect extra wires from this connector to the speaker hole behind rear door panel through the door ). 6 inch speakers can be connected. Only problem is there are no holes on the door panel so holes can be drilled in speaker pattern or speaker cover to be fixed.

If subwoofer is to be used, amplifier setup is required .Since you are yet to get the car, try to use as it is for sometime and then add rear speakers and then subwoofer ( if required). But I generally recommend not to do expensive setups for this car which basically a small inexpensive car. For me ( though I have 2 pairs of good extra speakers) front speakers are enough and very crispy ( though I am what one calls " audiophile" but I find as a driver one has limited enjoyment in music inside a car). The current Harman unit with 2 front speakers satisfies my requirements ( may try to add rear speakers as DIY project once warranty is over since I do maintenance of all my vehicles myself).

Our Spresso has wheel cladding, door claddings, door visors, rear chrome panel, front chrome fittings, seat cover, rear camera, floor PVC cover, rubber mats and steering cover ( if I had the deciding power I would not have added any one of outside fittings). I believe in keeping things simple. Latter added dashcam( DDPai) as I drive in highways mostly.Though I don't know much about Bangalore , in JC road lot of Accessories shops are there. Also heard that Konark's( Jaynagar) and Glamour( Koramangala) are good too.

Wishing happy miles..

[damodar]

Originally Posted by kvsneela

By AC filter u mean in cabin AC filter?. Spresso doesnot come with AC filter by default.. I have installed it ( Rs 150/- OEM) myself.

I also bought the OEM filter from MGP website and it costed me Rs 324. Where did you buy the filter from?
Also after installation the filter is a bit loose on the top and bottom side although it has a snug fit on the sides, is it normal?

[kvsneela]

Originally Posted by damodar

I also bought the OEM filter from MGP website and it costed me Rs 324. Where did you buy the filter from?
Also after installation the filter is a bit loose on the top and bottom side although it has a snug fit on the sides, is it normal?

Dear damodar,
I got the AC filter from the dealership service centre itself when I went for second free service( 6 months). There is one MGP distributor in Pondy but he didnot have the stock . Then I tried to order through the Maruti Accessories website but it took the link to the dealer only( there is only one dealer in Pondy).When I enquired with dealer , i was told to take it directly from the service centre as online ordering will be costly (325/-). But in service centre I was charged with RS 164/- + 28%GST which will be around 210/-..
After installation it will be slightly loose only( should not be tight fit).. Hope you have installed in correct direction ( up mark towards top and front side)..

[kvsneela]

Originally Posted by kvsneela

In Suzuki smartstudio ( audio system) rear camera guidlines never shown on the screen even after enabling in the settings.

The same question was asked in some other forum.
After some reasearch regarding the guidelines missing , I could conclude that there is no problem with the Harman system. These guidelines are provided by the camera unit. The OEM camera for Alto, Spresso, Celerio and probably WagonR( 5600/-) does not have that provision. Same time camera supplied for Swift, Dzire, Baleno is different ( 7700/-) and provides guidelines( for same Smart Studio unit). Anyway these guidelines are not dynamic ( don't show the direction as per the front wheel position ). So does not make much difference. After market camera ( with provision)shows guidelines in the same unit.

[manij]

Dear Kvsneela,

Thank you very much for the reply!

I have taken delivery of the car couple of days ago.

Fully aligned with all your feedback, including on the stock speakers. They are decent and LOUD (seems very loud even on low volume settings). But if I get to it, want to check if upgrading brings any more joys. From some youtube channels, I see people have fit active subwoofers like 'Zoook Moto69 MonsterX1' in S-presso without external amplifier and seem happy with it.

Originally Posted by kvsneela

But I generally recommend not to do expensive setups for this car which basically a small inexpensive car.

I do intend to have this as my primary car for city driving, which is majority of my day to day driving. Hence is my only choice now to do the modifications, irrespective of the cost. While I should be able to afford cars from the segments above, everything else I know of or can see on the roads is wider and bigger, consequently in my opinion, being less comfortable for my day-to-day drive scenario. Unless magically some manufacturer introduces another small/narrower car with all creature comforts, irrespective of price.

Been trying to check out 'Dolby Atmos' for cars, which seems to have been introduced couple of years ago. The marketing and reviews say that cars are apparently the second best place to hear with Dolby Atmos effect, next only to theaters. Though not been able to find India specific products/availability yet.

[antihero]

I am considering getting an s-presso for a daily small town runabout in the Himalayas and I had few questions for the owners.

1. S-presso international variant comes with rear adjustable headrests. Is this a part that can be retrofitted to the Indian model? If so which one. A link (boodmo) etc would help



2. Has anyone bothered to calculate or knows what the approach / departure and breakover angles are?
3. What is the max tyre upsize that one can go for, with standard suspension without them fouling with fenders at full lock ?
Finally
4. Is there a suspension kit available in india that stiffens the suspension a tad bit?