[saikarthik]

I am seriously considering the Altroz P XT, as it has good amount of tech/features and within my budget limit.

But the only part that is bugging me is that I read a lot about the GC issues, I don't trust the on paper GC value. I was searching for the approach angle comparison with Honda city (not a segment to segment match), but I drove a friend's city and I had to be very careful on parched roads and pot holes.

I prefer Nexon XM but it is a stretch for my budget. I am comfortable at 8L OTR, can stretch to 8.5 at the max.

P.S - I need this as a family vehicle with generous boot space, that's why Tiago was out of my choice even though the engine performance on Altroz P was said not exciting.

[Redline Shooter]

Originally Posted by saikarthik

I am seriously considering the Altroz P XT, as it has good amount of tech/features and within my budget limit.

But the only part that is bugging me is that I read a lot about the GC issues, I don't trust the on paper GC value. I was searching for the approach angle comparison with Honda city (not a segment to segment match), but I drove a friend's city and I had to be very careful on parched roads and pot holes.

I prefer Nexon XM but it is a stretch for my budget. I am comfortable at 8L OTR, can stretch to 8.5 at the max.

P.S - I need this as a family vehicle with generous boot space, that's why Tiago was out of my choice even though the engine performance on Altroz P was said not exciting.

I think if you are willing to push it to 8-8.5 lakhs, you should consider XZ model. It's probably the best value for money variant.

Also they have launched XMS recently which I think is a good variant if you are not keen on features like rear ac vents/cruise control/auto sensing vipers..

As for Nexon, the high transmission tunnel was a let down for me. And I found the interior and dash in Altroz and Nexon to be similar in terms of quality and design(...yes they are not identical).

Also sharing a video i came across. I found the analysis and format of the videos very interactive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxNq...channel=V3Cars

I have finally booked the Altroz XZ myself.

[trek]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

The most important thing that the XM variant needs is the decent 16 inch wheels instead of that pathetic 14 inch ones.

Totally spoils the looks.
And what's with having alloy wheels only in the top spec XZ?

XT diesel retails at 9.5 lakhs on road. It should have come with alloy wheels.

+100 to the above.

Tata is royally ruining the 'gold standard' image that they are so trying hard to built, with the cheap looking smaller wheels and wheel covers on the lower specs of the Altroz.

The worst is the base variant which does not even get wheel caps. It totally spoils the look of the car, a major turn off for anyone considering the Altroz.

I seriously fail to understand the logic of most car manufacturers not providing decent looking wheel caps on base models. Instead of spending crores on silly advertisements and print ads, they ought to consider every version of their car running on the road as a potential advertisement for future customers.

They don't even have to wait for new clients to visit them in the showroom for the first contact, let them be influenced positively by the already sold cars running on the roads. By making their base versions ugly and cheap looking, they are losing the forest for the trees.

Tata should consider the cost of such exterior enhancements as marketing expenses since they can immensely influence decision making. Someone who will be looking at buying the top variant is gonna do that only and not downgrade himself to the base version, so Tata does not have to worry about leaving money on the table.

At least potential buyers will not be put off by the odd looking Altroz XE versions running on the road.

Also, Tata please offer vibrant color shades on the Altroz similar to the electric blue and lemon yellow shades of the Tiago as the car looks much more stunning in darker shades compared to the subdued grey, white and silver.

[Quinn]

As if to make things further complicated, dealer refused to give wheel caps in XE saying they don't come. Even in their accessory kit, it is not there

[MasterFoxD]

Finally Tata has started addressing the bogged-down feel at the bottom end, especially in lower gears, with a new AL04 update to the ECU. Will take my car over to the SVC very soon and check this thing. Hopefully some of that "boaty" feel is eradicated.

[mega_wattt]

Originally Posted by MasterFoxD

Finally Tata has started addressing the bogged-down feel at the bottom end, especially in lower gears, with a new AL04 update to the ECU. Will take my car over to the SVC very soon and check this thing. Hopefully some of that "boaty" feel is eradicated.

Glad to hear that. Also get your spark plugs checked as well. It seems to be a real issue. Check out these videos.

https://youtu.be/E44iEJvuR2o

https://youtu.be/QHU0s5DuAPs

[Quinn]

Hello Forum, I got a significant dent and scratches on rear passenger door due to my fault only. I judged wrong and scraped through a pillar. However, I see it is mainly dent with some ugly scratches. Door and window glass is functional with lock/unlock and speakers are properly working.

Now authorised service centre is saying that entire door needs replacement and quoting about 18k and asking me to go for insurance claim (subsequent claims might be problem). I somehow feel does it really need entire door replacement? Would it be a bad idea to try FNG options (will it void warranty)? Or should I spend that 18k without insurance and get door replaced??

Your inputs will be helpful.

[aravind.anand]

Originally Posted by Quinn

Hello Forum, I got a significant dent and scratches on rear passenger door due to my fault only. I judged wrong and scraped through a pillar. However, I see it is mainly dent with some ugly scratches. Door and window glass is functional with lock/unlock and speakers are properly working.

Now authorised service centre is saying that entire door needs replacement and quoting about 18k and asking me to go for insurance claim (subsequent claims might be problem). I somehow feel does it really need entire door replacement? Would it be a bad idea to try FNG options (will it void warranty)? Or should I spend that 18k without insurance and get door replaced??

Your inputs will be helpful.

Pictures would have really helped the experts assess and give their opinion. However, this being a new car, I think it is better to go with a new door. We repaired the door of my friend's Punto, and that particular door never felt the same after that.The closing action and effort on that door always felt un-natural for the remaining 6 years he had that car with him.

[Quinn]

Originally Posted by aravind.anand

Pictures would have really helped the experts assess and give their opinion. However, this being a new car, I think it is better to go with a new door. We repaired the door of my friend's Punto, and that particular door never felt the same after that.The closing action and effort on that door always felt un-natural for the remaining 6 years he had that car with him.

Thanks Aravind. One query is does this really need entire door replacement? I agree pics will help more so here are the pics.





Thats all the dent and scratches (I know its ugly ) :

[Vinod_nair]

Originally Posted by Quinn

Thanks Aravind. One query is does this really need entire door replacement? I agree pics will help more so here are the pics.

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Thats all the dent and scratches (I know its ugly ) :

Just get the dent pulled at a good FNG denter and painter, the scratches can be removed by rubbing polish.

Don't stress you could have more in future.

[Quinn]

Originally Posted by Vinod_nair

Just get the dent pulled at a good FNG denter and painter, the scratches can be removed by rubbing polish.

Don't stress you could have more in future.

Thanks Vinod. I was also thinking the same. Given the kind of damage you see, will a job at FNG affect the car's warranty or service liability in anyway?

[nkrishnap]

Originally Posted by Quinn

Thanks Aravind. One query is does this really need entire door replacement? I agree pics will help more so here are the pics.

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Thats all the dent and scratches (I know its ugly ) :

This does not warrant a replacement. A good tinker can fix this easily. The door will need a repaint.

Pulling the dent out can crack the paint which will need to be reworked. Get the right paint formula and get it repainted.

[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by Quinn

Thanks Aravind. One query is does this really need entire door replacement? I agree pics will help more so here are the pics.

Oops. Thankfully the damage is fully reversible. So thats fine. Cars will always face such things in their lives & good to see you aren't too stressed out about it (like I used to be).

As for the repair - did the ASC explain WHY the door needed to be changed? did they open the interior panel & check if there was any internal damage? Or just looked at it from outside and summarily told to get the door replaced? The exterior damage looks really minimal. Given that you probably did this at parking speeds - I feel there is little chance that interior structure of the door frame got compromised. Insist on the ASC to fix the door dents & repaint it. Cover that under the insurance. The ASC seems to be trying for a larger margin replacement (usual things going on in covid times sadly) rather than a repair job.

The reason why I suggest ASC repair - in general Tata ASC body shops are very good & they also match the paint very well. The Altroz's gold signature shade is not exactly a commonly used paint and an FNG might botch-up the paint job. Even a tiny difference in the paint will be hard to ignore in an eye catching car.

[Quinn]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

Pulling the dent out can crack the paint which will need to be reworked. Get the right paint formula and get it repainted.

Thanks Krishna, I am checking with some known FNGs and will check with them about the paint. Not sure about the job quality as there are lot of mixed reports I heard about the paint jobs in general. Sadly if its some other dark colour, it would have been a bit ignorable but this gold shade is prone to amplify any discrepancies. Will do my best and rest is luck!

Originally Posted by Reinhard

Oops. Thankfully the damage is fully reversible. So thats fine. Cars will always face such things in their lives & good to see you aren't too stressed out about it (like I used to be).

Thanks Reinhard. Actually I am stressed and was feeling very bad about it. But then I thought it could have happened anywhere in any condition and why lose sleep over something thats not always in our control? Funny thing is in the same parking lot, I made complex reverse manoeuvres with ease and messed up a simple turn. Probably was too cautious about car being new

Originally Posted by Reinhard

Or just looked at it from outside and summarily told to get the door replaced? The exterior damage looks really minimal.

Not even looked at outside. He just asked me to send pics and started with replacement. I have also seen in youtube users reporting the same for much smaller dents in new cars. I think its what as a standard they are doing and he was telling me that they need to apply putty and primer and that stuff which is nothing to do with structure. He insisted me to bring the insurance copy. All indicating to me that they will at the end try to replace. I am not very keen on going there now. But will check with other TASS my contacts might personally know and try to get repaired. I agree that this Gold shade will show up glaringly if improper job is done.

Hopefully there wont be rust catching in the meanwhile (as its December and reasonably cold weather).

[nkrishnap]

Originally Posted by Quinn

Thanks Krishna, I am checking with some known FNGs and will check with them about the paint. Not sure about the job quality as there are lot of mixed reports I heard about the paint jobs in general. Sadly if its some other dark colour, it would have been a bit ignorable but this gold shade is prone to amplify any discrepancies. Will do my best and rest is luck!

If you go by the paint formula and a decent painter. You should not have any issues matching the color. PM me if you need help on this regard.