[curiousnewbie]

Got the delivery of my red DT XZA+ Harrier today. I am moving from manual Honda city to Harrier auto and was very conscious while driving today because of the width, auto transmission, driving position, etc .
Was just wondering when I would feel at home with harrier, just like the way I was with my city. How difficult is it to move from a manual sedan to this automatic beast ?

Also can I get 18” safari alloys installed without voiding the warranty now that the harrier dark edition has same alloy size as well ?

[moh1t]

I'm looking to buy a dashcam (front only) for my harrier. Did anyone get a dash cam installed on their harrier? if yes, what brand and model.

The brands that come up the most in online reviews are either 70mai or DDPAI, and they both have quite a few models on Amazon. Not sure which one to get. the only gesture I'm keep on is ADAS.

[84.monsoon]

Accident in Chennai this weekend, making headlines locally seems to have happened in a Harrier from what I see in the photo on today’s Times. Apparently the actor lost control, rammed the vehicle into a side railing and the vehicle plunged into a pit. The front passenger died due to head injuries and the actor who was driving, survived with some neck and back injuries. The rear passengers escaped with only minor injuries. The vehicle’s body seems to have withstood the crash and plunge well. I suspect the front passenger was not wearing her seat belt, the damage to the body does not seem to be severe enough, no collapse of upper body into the passenger compartment near the head area, as far as I can make out. The passenger door seems to have been cut open (maybe for rescue). ECR near Chennai is one of the most dangerous roads in the country and I just wish more people realise this.

[greyhound82]

Originally Posted by curiousnewbie

How difficult is it to move from a manual sedan to this automatic beast ?

Congrats for the Hatrier and welcome to owners club .
I upgraded from a manual hatch. It took less than 100 kms . The first thing I had done was going for a 250 km long drive. Luckily it was during last December and traffic was minimal. Be a little careful in traffic during initial days

[TorqueIndia]

Originally Posted by 84.monsoon

Apparently the actor lost control, rammed the vehicle into a side railing and the vehicle plunged into a pit. The front passenger died due to head injuries and the actor who was driving, survived with some neck and back injuries. The rear passengers escaped with only minor injuries. The vehicle’s body seems to have withstood the crash and plunge well. I suspect the front passenger was not wearing her seat belt, the damage to the body does not seem to be severe enough, no collapse of upper body into the passenger compartment near the head area, as far as I can make out.

Some of the CCTV footages shared around claims the car was speeding above 120kmph and got airborne by a divider, rollover multiple times. Also witnesses claims that the deceased was thrown out of the car during the accident and was found later only after the initial medical emergency responses and by the time she was gone. It looks like the girls were sitting at the rear seats.

[curiousnewbie]

Originally Posted by moh1t

I'm looking to buy a dashcam (front only) for my harrier. Did anyone get a dash cam installed on their harrier? if yes, what brand and model.

The brands that come up the most in online reviews are either 70mai or DDPAI, and they both have quite a few models on Amazon. Not sure which one to get. the only gesture I'm keep on is ADAS.

I bought 70mai A800s (ADAS enabled) 4K dashcam. You can buy front cam only (with option to add rear cam well) on Amazon but need to buy a wiring kit along with it if you plan to use the parking surveillance mode. Otherwise you can just use the cigarette lighter charger which will come along with the cam

[Beelzebub]

Originally Posted by moh1t

I'm looking to buy a dashcam (front only) for my harrier. Did anyone get a dash cam installed on their harrier? if yes, what brand and model.

The brands that come up the most in online reviews are either 70mai or DDPAI, and they both have quite a few models on Amazon. Not sure which one to get. the only gesture I'm keep on is ADAS.

I am using 70mai A800s (both front and rear). I would suggest you to go through the thread https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-e...vr-thread.html (The Dashcam / Car Video Recorder (DVR) Thread). There are plenty of user experiences solving most of your queries.

I chose 70mai over DDPAI due to inbuilt screen and ease of use, however DDPAI is also good option and you can easily access using phone app.

Regarding so called "ADAS" feature, I think it's useless and most people will keep it turn off. So this should not be a criteria while selecting the dashcam.

[NitinDev]

Help

Any Hexa AT owners, TD or own Harrier AT? I have had few queries ever since Harrier came with AT.

1. How is the gearbox with the 2.0 engine? Hexa's AT, at times, shudders after it shifts from 2nd to 3rd, gives a jerk and picks up speed. Not a pleasant feeling. Is it the same with Harrier's Hyundai sourced 6 speed AT?

2. Steering - I know both these cars use hydraulic steering units. But is there any difference in how they respond? Both are equally heavy at low speeds? Or was there any update/tweak on Harriers hydraulic unit?

Overall how is the new Harrier compared to Hexa? Especially in terms of handling and maintenance costs.

Thanks

[yd_gli]

Originally Posted by NitinDev

Help

Any Hexa AT owners, TD or own Harrier AT? I have had few queries ever since Harrier came with AT.

1. How is the gearbox with the 2.0 engine? Hexa's AT, at times, shudders after it shifts from 2nd to 3rd, gives a jerk and picks up speed. Not a pleasant feeling. Is it the same with Harrier's Hyundai sourced 6 speed AT?

2. Steering - I know both these cars use hydraulic steering units. But is there any difference in how they respond? Both are equally heavy at low speeds? Or was there any update/tweak on Harriers hydraulic unit?

Overall how is the new Harrier compared to Hexa? Especially in terms of handling and maintenance costs.

Thanks

What a coincidence that you ask these questions just a day after I test drove the Harrier. Yes, I do have a Hexa and test drove the Harrier since my wife is interested in getting one.

Long story short: If you plan on replacing the Hexa with the Harrier, then don't bother. There is no replacement for the space, ride, luxury and powertrain that the Hexa offers.

To answer your questions:
1. The Punch PowerGlide on the Hexa is a way better gearbox. The fact that its mated to a 2.2l Varicor means that the Hexa is a phenomenal to drive. That adrenaline rush is missing with the Harrier. I haven't experienced the shudder from 2nd to 3rd that you mention. There is a distinct turbo boost that comes in at ~1700RPM but it is not a shudder.
2. I prefer the steering feel on the Hexa. The Harrier tended to dart around. Maybe it is just a case of getting used to it. But both seem heavy at low speeds.

The Harrier might handle better due to the monocoque and is probably going to be easier in the city. But the seating height, commanding view and sheer size mean the Hexa is way better on the highways. Plus it has discs front and rear which help at higher speeds.

Both are super cars but once you drive the Hexa its tough to go to something else in the sub 40l segment.

[Livnletcarsliv]

Originally Posted by Rollingwheels26

Mileage is a strength ? This is genuinely surprising since I had heard that it averages 10-11 in the city. Which isnt bad but nor is it good. Do elaborate on that if your experience has been different, please.

Mileage is SUBJECTIVE as I have mentioned.
And 12 kmpl city for such a heavy and big car with 2l engine is decent enough.

[NitinDev]

Originally Posted by yd_gli

What a coincidence that you ask these questions just a day after I test drove the Harrier. Yes, I do have a Hexa and test drove the Harrier since my wife is interested in getting one.

Long story short: If you plan on replacing the Hexa with the Harrier, then don't bother. There is no replacement for the space, ride, luxury and powertrain that the Hexa offers.

Great! Thanks for the info. My sis wanted to get, as she quotes "car which has panoramic sunroof". She has driven my Hexa and loved it, except the steering. So thought of suggesting Harrier AT.

Originally Posted by yd_gli

To answer your questions:
1. The Punch PowerGlide on the Hexa is a way better gearbox. The fact that its mated to a 2.2l Varicor means that the Hexa is a phenomenal to drive. That adrenaline rush is missing with the Harrier. I haven't experienced the shudder from 2nd to 3rd that you mention. There is a distinct turbo boost that comes in at ~1700RPM but it is not a shudder.

It is not always. But it happens when the AT shifts from 2-3 or 3-4. Maybe a friction noise, while the AT gear rolls, not sure. So I was wondering if it's the same with Harrier's AT as well.

Originally Posted by yd_gli

Both are super cars but once you drive the Hexa its tough to go to something else in the sub 40l segment.

Very true

[greyhound82]

Originally Posted by yd_gli

To answer your questions:
1. The Punch PowerGlide on the Hexa is a way better gearbox. The fact that its mated to a 2.2l Varicor means that the Hexa is a phenomenal to drive. That adrenaline rush is missing with the Harrier. I haven't experienced the shudder from 2nd to 3rd that you mention. There is a distinct turbo boost that comes in at ~1700RPM but it is not a shudder.

Originally Posted by NitinDev

1. How is the gearbox with the 2.0 engine? Hexa's AT, at times, shudders after it shifts from 2nd to 3rd, gives a jerk and picks up speed. Not a pleasant feeling. Is it the same with Harrier's Hyundai sourced 6 speed AT?

Harrier uses Hyundai sourced 6 speed gearbox while Hexa's unit came from Punch Power Glide. Atleast on paper Harrier seems more peppier. Hope you tried out the sport mode too. My automatic Harrier completed 17k kms and I didn't feel any jerk between gear shifts
Hexa Power to Weight Ratio : 68 bhp /Ton
Hexa Torque to Weight Ration : 174 Nm/Ton

Harrier Power to weight ratio : 98 bhp/ Ton
Harrier Torque to weight ratio : 204 bhp/ Ton

source : TBHP official reviews

[ssm2021]

Originally Posted by Firestarter0508

The dealer already installed few additional features that I needed (e.g. TPMS) during delivery of car, so can’t complain there
Just did 2000km run over three days. What a charm it is on the highways !!!

Which brand of TPMS did the dealer fit in your car? I am also considering getting one installed.

Leads/ recommendations welcome. Factory fitting and integrated into the Infotainment system would have been ideal. Looking for the next best thing.

[ssm2021]

Originally Posted by ssm2021

Update on First Free Service:
The SCR error was fixed by replacing a sensor apparently. Not sure what caused the failure since this came up immediately after the first service. I suspect car wash water pressure in the engine bay could be the cause, can't say for sure. The SA obviously didn't admit to any such mistake during the first service.

In summary - Poor Quality control is no surprise. The service engineers/ SA need constant follow-up and lethargic. Their work is certainly not proactive and customer centric. The SA didn't even check the first time around if all the work listed was done properly by the engineers. Seems like only escalation works at Tata service.

But finally, after 2 months of getting my car, I feel the car is in good shape now. Fingers crossed.

What do you know? The error is back

Frustrating to be sending a brand new car to the service station 3 times already within only 480 kms on the odo.

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by ssm2021

What do you know? The error is back

Frustrating to be sending a brand new car to the service station 3 times already within only 480 kms on the odo.

If the vehicle is letting you drive normally, please do a highway run for a while and see if it goes away, drive it a little aggressively, let the revs come up a bit, no need to worry about engine running in , its already around 500 Kms on the odo.