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Old 20th June 2024, 22:42   #5221
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Recently I came across fuel specification of XUV 700 from one of the posts here. Apparently, the owner’s manual of the XUV 700 Petrol version defines the fuel type to be “conforming to IS 2796:2017 BSVI with RON of 95”. This has come as a surprise to me since Thar (which uses the same G20 petrol engine albeit detuned) owner’s manual specifies fuel ‘conforming to IS 2796:2017’, with no mention of the RON value. IS 2796:2017 specifies both RON 91 and RON 95 fuels in its scope. So, using RON 91 should conform with the requirement in the case of Thar as per the manual. One might argue that the XUV 700’s engine produces about 50 PS more than Thar’s hence the manufacturer might have chosen a different state of tune for the G20 –M Stallion engine in XUV making RON 95 fuel a requirement. However, when I checked the G20 engine specification in ScorpioN, which produces 200PS (similar to XUV 700), Mahindra specifies the same fuel type recommended for Thar. Amusingly, Mahindra decided to specify only the Bore X Stroke numbers in Thar’s manual meanwhile the ones of XUV and ScorpioN have only got the compression ratio value. Since the fuel's RON requirement of a particular engine can largely be ascertained from its compression ratio (higher compression ration engines require higher RON fuels), it is of interest to me to know why ScorpioN and XUV 700 engines, both of which have similar power output and the same compression ratio of 9.5, have different RON specifications.

Recently, one of my pals bought a Virtus GT. Its manual specifies '95 RON or a minimum of 91 RON fuel'. The manual also talks about the advantages of using the same in terms of improved performance and efficiency.

I have used 91 RON fuel in my Thar from day one except for one of two times when the pump near me ran dry of normal petrol. All this while I did not find any reason why I should buy higher RON fuel. But after seeing all this I think I should give XP95 or something a long-term try! Of course, I'm not expecting any wonders to happen.

P.S. It is funny to see Mahindra XUV 700's engine output figure at 147.1kW. Mahindra is so sure of their quality control that they can specify engine output figure in their cars to the first decimal place! *****
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Old 20th June 2024, 23:02   #5222
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Yep, Ive had this problem for a while now, squealing, screeching not sure how to describe it but its the usual high pitch brake noise sound. For me it occurs after driving a car for a while and when coming to a halt slowly or at low speeds say below 20-30kmph but the if I drive longer it happens at high speeds as well. I recently got the brakes cleaned and even got the front discs skimmed as they mentioned warping but that has not solved the issue in my case.
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Old 22nd June 2024, 08:59   #5223
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Yep, Ive had this problem for a while now, squealing, screeching not sure how to describe it but its the usual high pitch brake noise sound. For me it occurs after driving a car for a while and when coming to a halt slowly or at low speeds say below 20-30kmph but the if I drive longer it happens at high speeds as well. I recently got the brakes cleaned and even got the front discs skimmed as they mentioned warping but that has not solved the issue in my case.
I had read somewhere on this forum that a workaround is to drive the car in reverse, pick up a little speed and brake hard. Rinse and repeat 2-3 times, while making sure all safety precautions are taken when reversing.

I have a XUV 700 that regularly has slow speed brake squealing, but this reverse braking workaround has been by and large effective.

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Old 22nd June 2024, 10:48   #5224
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So I asked another service centre ( Kottayam, Kerala ) and the tech team from there said there’s no difference whatsoever with regards to the suspension components between 2021 and 2023-24. Even the part numbers are same, as many of our members have mentioned before.

Secondly, if I’m to test it out, what are the components I should replace ? Would just the dampers at the front and back do or should I change the coil springs, stabiliser rod, arms as well ?
It’s good that somebody is talking about this possibility. I went through Boodmo to find out whether there was any difference in the part numbers of the items in the assemblies. According to them, there is a difference between the pre and post-2023 vehicle versions. The following components have different part numbers.

Rear:
  1. Coil Spring
  2. Shock absorber
Front:
  1. Shock absorber
Unless M&M has changed the design of the mountings of the shock absorbers at the vehicle frame end it seems highly likely that the components are interchangeable. But I couldn’t confirm. However, with the cost of the parts so attractive (8k for all the bits for the rear end), I might as well try it. I wouldn’t believe MASS folks for this sort of advice. Over the last nine years of ownership of Mahindra cars, I haven’t found someone at MASS who has that kind of knowledge. They are not technically inclined enough to know. Even if they did, I don’t think they would do a suspension swap without a directive from M&M on its feasibility. M&M wouldn’t give such a directive because that would mean accepting the installation of a somewhat sub-optimal suspension in the pre-2023 models. So, we are on our own with this one. Anyways, I'm going call my SA and ask.
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Hello bhpians
Took delivery of my Red Rage D AT last week. Took around 7 weeks from booking till delivery. Allocation happened in 4 weeks but the transit was delayed since the truck broke down in between.
Did around 500 odd kms till date. Did some mild off roading as well. Vehicle is great, ride is busy compared to my compass but ok for an offroader.
Only issue I faced was DPF Clogged message at 310 kms on ODO. Did a Regen and all good till now. Regen took around 20 minutes and consumed a fair quantity of fuel. I did quite a lot of short trips (less than 3kms from start to stop) which as per dealer is the reason for the error.
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Does anyone knows whether the Earth Edition is discontinued or not. Our dealership says Earth Edition Petrol AT is not yet available in the production line. In two minds whether to cancel the booking or change the colour.
I am being informed by dealership that Mahindra has only manufactured Diesel Manuals for Earth Edition, finding it real hard to believe the dealership comments. Does anyone in the forum can verify this please. Appreciate if anybody could PM an email address for me to reach out to Mahindra to get the real reason for the delay. Customer care email reply was very vague and not been helpful. Thank you
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Hello BHPians

I will be taking delivery of my Thar RWD next week. Looking for suggestions off the best place in Mumbai to get a few modifications done. Will also appreciate suggestion on the MUST DO mods based on your experiences.

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Old 27th June 2024, 13:33   #5228
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Hello everyone,

This is just an informational post. I sent my Thar for periodic service at 80,000 kms to Koncept Mahindra, New Delhi. The cost estimate sent to me was a whopping 14k+ gst. I immediately called the supervisor and informed him that I had never paid more than 10k for a regular service back in my hometown in U.P., but he was adamant.

I went through the estimate again and found the following extra “services” which had been added:
1. Maxicare front Evp cleaning - Rs 1905
2. Maxicare internal Panel Protection - Rs 2456
3. Front brake disc skimming- Rs 1500
4. Wheel alignment and balancing- Rs 1400
Total= 7,500 (approx)

Now, I would have got the wheels aligned anyway but the way the supervisor was trying to convince me as to how the car was pulling to the left on breaking and that even if a didn’t opt for the above 4. Services he couldn’t charge less than 10k, this made me furious and I firmly asked him to remove all the 4 from my estimate. Following which I told him to keep the estimate around the approximation being shown in the Mahindra Withyouhumesha website/app. This took him by surprise and he immediately sent me a new estimate of 7k +gst.

I am sure most would be already aware but for those who aren’t, before sending your Mahindra vehicles for servicing please check the estimated cost on the official Mahindra website/app withyouhumesha. Secondly, don’t go on the google ratings of the Dealers, they will milk you anyhow. Thirdly, your vehicle (if not in the luxury category) just needs regular oil and filter changes along with wheel alignment and top ups. Don’t fall for the gimmicks and if you are not sure check the owners manual or search the internet on what the company recommends to serviced/ replaced at that particular service interval.

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Old 27th June 2024, 15:35   #5229
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Yes.The app gives you a very close and accurate estimate of your service bill barring adblue cost which is based on how much needs to be topped up.

Rest of the charges would be very vague and very optional like those in the post above.

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Hi all, though it has been more than one week of deep forest colour launch for Thar but none of the dealers in Mumbai seem to have real life picture of Thar in new colour. Anyone here has the picture?

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Folks got my Thar!

Has been 3 weeks. It’s a stealth black Petrol AT RWD.
My main vehicle is a 4 years old Scorpio Classic, which happens to be my 2nd Scorpio - the first one I drove for good & years. Also I am someone grown up on Mahindra jeeps as dad was in a Govt job and the standard issue was a Mahindra thru the life! Learned how to drive on a Marshall!

Took good 2.5 months from booking to delivery and was a pleasant experience with NBS Andheri; but then it has a been a lifetime and Mahindra suvs and dealers have never disappointed me.

Thar was mostly a heart led decision and I closed booking over WhatsApp and first time I drove was at the time of delivery! Well this forum is a treasure trove of information and I cherished my Thar rental rides in Goa so was sure the new Thar will not disappoint, and once i had a go from better half to take a car that’s as individualistic as it can get I just booked it over gut without event seeing or feeling it.

Was I in for a surprise! Oh lord yes! A pleasant sweet surprise. Best decision ever! A Mahindra driver for life wasn’t expecting this finesse in a Thar cabin! There’s no way I ever thought that Mahindra can make such a SILENT and amazing engine. Last 15 years with two different Napoli black scorpios, I can immediately spot the colour scheme difference in the stealth black - and it’s so amazing!!

Have been caught up in work so only 500kms on the odo thus far. Will post more observations later.

Checkout some pics and join me in welcoming my GULAABO
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Its been a blissful year & a half with my beloved Thar.
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Saw your car today near Bombay Coffee House. Your car looks sick with those wheels. Unfortunately, I couldn’t take a picture of your ride or give a thumbs up since you were just leaving when I pulled up. There was another Thar behind you and both looked menacing together.
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Saw your car today near Bombay Coffee House. Your car looks sick with those wheels. Unfortunately, I couldn’t take a picture of your ride or give a thumbs up since you were just leaving when I pulled up. There was another Thar behind you and both looked menacing together.
Hey there, thanks for the compliments! Posting the below picture on your behalf . Hope we get to catchup next time, cheers!

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I just completed my first Leh circuit in my Thar Petrol AT and it was a wonderful experience. I did Delhi - Pathankot - Srinagar - Kargil - Leh - Nubra - Pangong - Hanle - Leh - Jispa - Rupnagar - Delhi. I did about 15 days of travel followed by 10 days of Vipasana in Leh before heading home.

Thar is a beast and surprisingly my jerry can was not required (it wasn't even close). According to the car, I consistently got over 10.5kmpl between Srinagar and Jispa. This is more than I get driving in and around NCR. When I did my refill in Manali, it showed DTE of 760km. I firmly believe during the last service a small electric engine was added to my car and was upgraded to mild hybrid.

This circuit has been posted multiple times so I won't create a new thread but if anyone has any question, I'll be happy to answer.

This is my Thar at Khardungla.
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I just completed my first Leh circuit in my Thar Petrol AT and it was a wonderful experience.
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This is very good news. I thought petrol engine will lose power at high alittude and AT will reduce the performnace further. How was the pick up at high altitude passes? At any point, did you feel loss of power? Thanks !
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