[ntomer]

Two questions to Safari XE owners -

1. Does the third row have USB charging ports? If yes, where?
2. What is the rating for low-beam, high-beam and DRL bulbs?

[sks2610]

Originally Posted by sks2610

Anyone getting random screws and bolts in their Safari?
So far, ...

Continuing on this:
Was cleaning my car yesterday, so popped up the bonnet. There, I noticed a small crack on the left side DRL body. To confirm, I removed the bolt and it, actually, was broken.

1. What could've caused it to break?
2. Will the SC fix it?

I checked further and found that 3 washers were used with the bolt. On the right DRL, however, there is just 1 washer. Could this've exerted some undue pressure and broke it?

I cross checked this with my friend's safari, he has 2 washers on the right and 1 on the left. This seems like another inconsistency and may be the reason for that crack. Any suggestions on how to take this up with SC?

[venkyhere]

Just tata QC things, trying to root cause "why" etc is a waste of time, because many have given up chasing such issues.

[Jude300]

Originally Posted by sks2610

I cross checked this with my friend's safari, he has 2 washers on the right and 1 on the left. This seems like another inconsistency and may be the reason for that crack. Any suggestions on how to take this up with SC?

You have eagle eyes buddy. I just checked mine and the story is the same. Interestingly, they have applied grease there. So I could be a known issue to them. Harrier owners can suggest here too.




So this seems to an issue with the design engineering of the chassis.

Take it to the SC and say you noticed this broken and loose. Ask them to replace it.

[caffeineAM]

Originally Posted by sks2610

I checked further and found that 3 washers were used with the bolt. On the right DRL, however, there is just 1 washer

I cross checked this with my friend's safari, he has 2 washers on the right and 1 on the left. This seems like another inconsistency and may be the reason for that crack.

Originally Posted by Jude300

just checked mine and the story is the same. I interestingly they have applied grease there. So I could be a known issue to them. Harrier owners can suggest here too.

Maybe it's just the assembly guys doing what they felt was "right"

[red_nemesis]

Originally Posted by caffeineAM

Maybe it's just the assembly guys doing what they felt was "right"

Actually, it is an easy way of getting the alignment/panel/component gaps right. As these components have more than 1 mountings, and not every component is exactly identical. So these additional washer could act as spacers to get those gaps that we see on the exterior right.

Could they have potentially let to that crack?
Yes, it is possible. I'd suggest you check with ASS guys, and maybe not mention that you opened it yourselves to avoid any excuses from them.

[Livnletcarsliv]

Just an OT question here.
Is it possible to fit the ventilated seats (that come as standard) in the "gold edition" to other variants like XZA+/XZ+/XZA/XZ (as an accessory or add-on feature)?
Has anyone done it? Your feedback and experience, please.

[neeraj0272]

Originally Posted by sks2610

Continuing on this:
Was cleaning my car yesterday, so popped up the bonnet. There, I noticed a small crack on the left side DRL body. To confirm, I removed the bolt and it, actually, was broken.

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1. What could've caused it to break?
2. Will the SC fix it?

I checked further and found that 3 washers were used with the bolt. On the right DRL, however, there is just 1 washer. Could this've exerted some undue pressure and broke it?

Attachment 2222325Attachment 2222326

I cross checked this with my friend's safari, he has 2 washers on the right and 1 on the left. This seems like another inconsistency and may be the reason for that crack. Any suggestions on how to take this up with SC?

This deserve further investigation but as Tata Motors is an interested party you won't be able to find the truth.
To my non-engineer brain it seems like some part has been manufactured outside of tolerance limits and then that defect has been adjusted using such unbalanced number of washers. Engineers on this forum may elaborate whether this is the case.

[red_nemesis]

Originally Posted by neeraj0272

To my non-engineer brain it seems like some part has been manufactured outside of tolerance limits and then that defect has been adjusted using such unbalanced number of washers. Engineers on this forum may elaborate whether this is the case.

You are spot on. As I mentioned here earlier, it is a common practice.

Originally Posted by red_nemesis

Actually, it is an easy way of getting the alignment/panel/component gaps right. As these components have more than 1 mountings, and not every component is exactly identical. So these additional washer could act as spacers to get those gaps that we see on the exterior right.

And the culprit in this case is most likely to be the body as I don't see scope for this much error in a small plastic part of DRL. And it is very much possible that the body is also with expected limits, just towards the extreme end of it maybe.

Originally Posted by sks2610

1. What could've caused it to break?

Apart from the washer/spacer, another reason for this to happen is someone leaning onto that part of the DRL while trying to look down in the engine compartment. This part it mounted right at the top, with limited surface contact due to the washers. If someone accidentally leans onto it, it might lead to a similar crack.

My Tiago has a very similar mounting for it's headlamps. I have to be consciously careful every time I'm looking into the engine area.

[neeraj0272]

Originally Posted by red_nemesis

You are spot on. As I mentioned here earlier, it is a common practice.


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When I raise this point in discussions that most 'Made in India' products do not match up to qaulity of imported products, some people start argueing with me and lecture me that I don't know enough and how companies like Tata & Mahindra are producing world class products.
Truth is whereas a German or a Japanese or an American product will always, by a great margin, surpass the tolerance limits of any quality or manufacturing standard, in India it will be just scraping the lower limit. And this is for top brands. For other 'local' products there is no quality control.
Top quality world class brands do not look upto BIS or EN or any such standards. They produce the best they can. They consciously innovate in materials and manufactring practices to raise the bar.
However this must be said that overall quality standards of every manufacturer has taken a hit in the last 20 years because of increased competetion due to increased globalization.
Now you can not rely 100% on German reliability or Japanese products for vfm quality and so on.

[Jude300]

And finally, I could finish my intial ownership review and get it past the line.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-...ip-review.html (Sapphire – My Royal Blue 2021 Tata Safari XZA 7-seater (AT) Ownership Review)

[Rshreyansh]

We took the delivery of our 2021 Safari XTA+ on the 26th of October. Here are some pictures (or lack of many) from the delivery day. I will try to post a first impression and an initial ownership review soon, with lots of pictures of course.

At home


Low beam halogen projectors and DRLs in action


Rear three quarter image

[Jude300]

Can someone suggest the a good Tata service centre near kollenchery (Ernakulam)? Is Gokulam Perumbavoor good?

Originally Posted by Rshreyansh

We took the delivery of our 2021 Safari XTA+ on the 26th of October. Here are some pictures (or lack of many) from the delivery day. I will try to post a first impression and an initial ownership review soon, with lots of pictures of course.

Congrats on your new ride! Wish you tons of happy and safe miles on your new car

[Rshreyansh]

Originally Posted by Jude300

Congrats on your new ride! Wish you tons of happy and safe miles on your new car

Thank you so much, Jude300. I wish the same for you and your Sapphire!

Just went through your initial ownership review, the insights you've provided are helpful and more like a long-term ownership report . Do keep that thread updated.

[parsh]

Just a glimpse of what is coming, extremely hard Heart Vs Head decision, coming from a Blazing Red Innova of 10 years and and a Sultry Light Green Innova of 16 years, while both young olides will continue their faithful Family Highway Cruiser Duties till both age having seen roughest of terrains, yet to see any signs though, Heart Won ! And here is another steed that will join the stable, The Black Gold XZ+ (can't do without the raw MT feel)