Team-BHP - Mahindra XUV700 Review

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Originally Posted by niranjan.mulye (Post 5223413)

I had booked XUV 700(AX7L Diesel Manual) on first day i.e. 7th October 2021 which entitles me for the price protection. The applicable ex showroom price on that day was Rs.19,99,000 whereas the current price of the same variant today comes around Rs.20,29,000.
Although i have price protection of first day the dealer is asking the taxable amount for RTO to be todays price(20,29,000) whereas the RTO tax should be applicable on the first day price(19,99,000) which is increasing the tax amount by 25000rs which i am not ready to pay.
I have made the full payment to the dealer(Loan amount+downpayment) today and now i am not ready to pay 25000 more.else what is the use of price protection by mahindra.

Well this has already been answered by other fellow Bhpians. Unfortunately this is how RTO works. Difference in Ex-Showroom price is what you end up saving. The situation gets tricks when the current price breaches the tax slab threshold which is the reason why you see a higher than expected impact. Anyways just pay it and enjoy the vehicle.

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Originally Posted by niranjan.mulye (Post 5223413)

There's nothing the dealer / you can do about it. This is just how the RTO calculates taxes on the latest MRP for a particular variant updated by the manufacturer

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Originally Posted by Manojah (Post 5223067)

The fact of the matter is that the Indian Roads and our traffic is not ready for ADAS or to put it the other way around, ADAS has very limited capabilities looking at our road conditions and chaotic traffic.

ADAS may be a more of a liability than an asset in most Indian road conditions & would need to be turned off in most driving scenarios in Indian conditions.

It is a great feature to have, but we need to learn as to when it would be effective and as to when it can cause confusion and maybe accidents.

I totally disagree with your POV.

I am currently driving the XUV700 with ADAS on with more than 2.8K km and it's been a boon till date for the majority of km.

It's saved me from certain collisions twice till date and gave pre-instinctive warning several times, which is very well received by me.

Also, there has been only one time when I switched the lane assist and high beam assist off, as I was on single lane under-construction highways. Rest of the the safety features were on.

Lane keep assist - people will say that it's irritating. But the right way to change lane is by using the indicator itself guys :) .

ACC - works very well in a city like Delhi-NCR, where roads are marked with proper lanes (which is now the case in every city or district I think).

Traffic Sign Recognition - this works well for single marked speed limits like the rounded boards. But can't read the new multi speed limits for different vehicles (NCR). Also, there should be some more actions on this rather than just showing the limit. It should have options like warning, or ever reduce the speed like in the Astor.

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Originally Posted by Poitive (Post 5223054)

Very interesting video, @Manojah. Thank you. Some points:

A) The long list of limitations further makes me wonder whether ADAS will make things better or worse in the Indian context. With a car which is deemed safer, people tend to take more risks (had read studies about it long back). If that system has as many limitations and is on road situations as disorganized and complex as in India, I lean towards believing it might make one less safe.
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Originally Posted by Manojah (Post 5223067)

The fact of the matter is that the Indian Roads and our traffic is not ready for ADAS ....

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Originally Posted by p_darshi (Post 5223077)

I disagree.

ADAS will be very beneficial in a number of situations....

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Originally Posted by sierrabravo98 (Post 5223133)

With the thousands of kilometres of expressways and other high quality road projects (U/C) which are going to become operational in the next 2-3 years, you would be better served with an ADAS equipped vehicle. .....

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Originally Posted by Manojah (Post 5223270)

It is ahead of times for India .....

Clarifying and summing up my thoughts about the use of ADAS:

I am not doubting that it would be useful in many situations. Also that as the infra gets better developed and conditions become more reliable it would become even more useful. That is the plus side.

On the other hand, relying on it, and it not working well enough (due to limitations in the video or failure) the consequences could be disastrous. Also, as before, it influences one's driving instincts as any driving aid would.

Whether the tipping point of reward justifying the risk has been reached is rather subjective. For many countries where the infra is in place, the risk-reward works in favour. IMO, we are quite far from it, and with time we will get closer to it; however much more advanced tech might come into play by then.

Might - just might - go the way of free WiFi dreamt of in cities, and it becoming redundant with ubiquitous 3G/4G internet.
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Originally Posted by Poitive (Post 5223618)

Whether the tipping point of reward justifying the risk has been reached is rather subjective. For many countries where the infra is in place, the risk-reward works in favour. IMO, we are quite far from it, and with time we will get closer to it; however much more advanced tech might come into play by then.

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Nope!

This is not entirely the case, our road network is one of the largest in the world and within its limitations a few companies are offering ADAS while others give the same nonsense about Indian roads killing their cars , Indian diesel killing their engine etc and give up.

With the present advancement in computing power of mobile chips, the possibilities are endless.

ADAS will work for a lot of roads that I know of, it's like a cruise control with eyes. ADAS is not for the driver to sleep on the wheel, it is simply to reduce fatigue on long road trips.

I shall talk from a Bangalore perspective as it's perhaps familiar with our population. One can use ADAS for a lot of distance on the following roads.

NICE road.
Bangalore - Mangalalore - Udupi
Bangalore to Goa.
Bangalore to Kolar - Tirupati - Vijayawada.
Bangalore to Chennai.
Bangalore to Salem - Kanyakumari and then into the ocean.
Bangalore to Mysore in a year you can use it for some distance.

One can also drive from Walayar onwards into Kerala, the road though crowded has incredibly well marked roads and signals that would make you wonder which country you are in. Just have to make sure your vehicle does not cross 80-90 kmph as there are speed cameras every few kms :disappointed

I personally use a bare bones vehicle but I notice that over the years driving on many roads have become a case of shifting into top gear and just cruise.

As a customer if you are getting two vehicles for the same price and one has ADAS and another does not , it would make absolutely no sense to eliminate a vehicle based on the presence of ADAS, it does no harm.

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Originally Posted by Kosfactor (Post 5223690)

One can also drive from Walayar onwards into Kerala, the road though crowded has incredibly well marked roads and signals that would make you wonder which country you are in. Just have to make sure your vehicle does not cross 80-90 kmph as there are speed cameras every few kms :disappointed

That specific statement caught my attention - perfect example of putting ACC with stop and go to use - no need to worry about getting tickets :D

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Originally Posted by abirnale (Post 5223830)

That specific statement caught my attention - perfect example of putting ACC with stop and go to use - no need to worry about getting tickets :D

Well I tied this on the Hyderabad-Bangalore Highway. The ACC works well. however till i crossed Bangalore Airport toll it was a bit irritating since there were lot of these 2 wheelers criss crossing the lanes and every time one 2 wheeler came in front of me the car would reduce speed. My other cars I use Cruise control for the same reason but here had to disengage, Also there is no speed limiter. A speed limiter would also help to maintain speed limit.

The way it steers through the lanes is amazing,Just lightly hold the steering and it moves byitself...:cool: one should not sleep at the steering with so much automation is the only fear. Also if you dont use the ACC you can still continue to use the lane detection and the auto steer function remains active, you only control the accelerator and break and lightly hold the steering the car steers based on the lanes.

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Originally Posted by bill1182 (Post 5223686)

Still unable to believe, I am taking delivery of my XUV 700 AX7 D AT today afternoon. Soon will post pictures and delivery experience.

Congratulations and welcome to the Mumbai club of XUV 700 owners. Trust the experience with Hare Krishna Motors has been smooth. Good to know that the delivery is happening within the notified date range. Do post photos of the beauty. Congratulations again and Happy Motoring! :Cheering:

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Originally Posted by Shai100 (Post 5224006)

Hey,

Thats good to know, My car also had 65KMS on the ODO so i guess thats the bare minimum testing that happens to all XUVS at Chakan plant, This will be shown on the adrenox app.

Enjoy your drive! Happy motoring!

Got the Adrenox app activated post-delivery today. The first thing I checked was how the car had clocked 58km on the ODO. The test run at the Chakan plant was clearly visible on their test track. The top speed during the test was 128kmph and the total test run was 10km. Thereafter there were a few runs around 1 to 4 km may be moving the car to a stockyard, loading, and unloading etc.