[Sedentary]

Originally Posted by TorqueTwist

Got my steed on 16th Dec. Booked on 7th AUG and was in the first 25k slot. Got the tires changed to 255/55/18 and got complete PPF done. Completed 860KMS as of now and explored all the available features. Thoroughly enjoying every moment with the car.

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Hey. I'm planning to go in for the same tyres for my XUV700 AX7L Diesel.

What have the tyres performed?

I feel my cabin is quite loud and im trying to solve the problem step by step. Starting with changing the tyres to a low noise tyre.

Im confused between Michelin PS4 SUV and Pirelli Scorpion Verde Mo.

My drives are mostly on highway/city and very occasionally mild off-roading. Although Michelins are recommended by almost everyone, Verde Mo seems to be a really good option as well. When I check Verde MO on Pirelli's official website, from what I see I feel there's a lot more tech that has gone into Verdes to achieve noise reduction plus they are also run flat. I am however not able to understand if it is just a fancy marketing technique and if Michelin PS4 can achieve better noise reduction without all the tech that Pirelli describes in Verde MO on its page.

The other factor I have to consider is which out of the two can handle occasional mild offroading. As far as what I see from the descriptions, Pirelli has a slightly higher edge in terms of mild offroading. I'm not sure however if Michelin PS4 is also good with the same.

The catch amongst all of this is, If I finally decide to go for Michelin PS4 SUV, it is available in 255 55 R18 as opposed to 235 60 R16 in Verde mo which is also the stock size of XUV700. This will increase the width by 20mm (10mm from each side of the tyre). However, the height decreases extremely slightly by 0.75mm (Which I think is not going to make any difference). How has that affected your drive experience?

Considering all of this I'm confused about which out of the two to go for.

[StraightDrive20]

After 20 months and 23K KMs of hassle free ownership of my AX7L petrol, it was today when it seems I have finally ran out of luck.

Imagine this scenario when you casually get into your car parked in the neighbourhood market’s parking slot to go back home. You put the car in R, use the rear camera in the screen to reverse as carplay connects and music starts to play. While thinking about your plans for the evening ahead ,you reverse the car and put it in the ‘D’ mode . Now as soon as the car starts moving forward, you realise something is absolutely off !! The steering feels very heavy and the car seems off balance as if a tyre has gone flat.

As you are shaken back to your senses, you realise all indicators/lights on the instrument panel are ON !! The parking brake sign, the engine sign, the EPB off sign and various other such signs ( see image).

Bewildered, you pull the car on the side and once it is stationary, put it in the ‘P’ mode. Then comes the biggest shocker - while the stick is slotted to ‘P’, the parking brake is not engaging. And since the parking brake is not engaging, the car is NOT turning off even if you press the start/stop button.

So here you are - all indicators on the panel are flashing, you are manually keeping the car stationary by pressing the brake pedal as parking brake is not engaging, and the car engine is running since it refuses to turn off !!

Thankfully the AC was still operating as being in this situation I realised I had started to sweat due to stress. In an attempt to turn the engine off , I tried several times engaging and disengaging P mode by moving the gear stick to R/N/D and back to P. While the car was moving forward/backward aligned to D/R, It was the same result for P, i.e. the Parking brake wasn’t engaging without which the Start/Stop button was simply unresponsive.

After a point, I just left the gear stick in P mode, kept the brake pedal pressed as parking brake was still not engaging and started exploring my phone book for Mahindra service support. While doing this, I kept fiddling with the Start/Stop button. I think I long pressed it (I am not sure) but the car engine finally stopped.

Knowing from numerous examples here that a ‘hard restart’ fixes most of things for an XUV, I was keen to start the car again with a hope that things would reset and the car would be fine. I started the car with great hope and noticed all indicators on the instrument panel were gone EXCEPT the Engine sign!

I turned the engine off and on a couple of times but the Engine sign remained. My place was hardly a KM away, I drove it to the basement and parked it before trying stop/start one last time. The engine sign remained.

This episode happened in early evening today. It was an open parking and it was quite hot. The car was there for almost an hour before i got into it and had this experience.

I have no clue why all these things happened and I’m still hopeful i may not find the engine sign on when I start the car tomorrow morning. At the most, i’ll get it sorted in the service centre in the coming week.

But my CONFIDENCE on the reliability of the XUV is BADLY SHAKEN. Mechanical issues can happen with any machine and are acceptable but an issue of this nature which seems purely electronic is scary and can easily lead to a severe mishap. It may not happen again and I may forget about this instance in a few weeks time but right now I feel like exploring a reliable replacement.

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by StraightDrive20

After 20 months and 23K KMs of hassle free ownership of my AX7L petrol, it was today when it seems I have finally ran out of luck.

Imagine this scenario when you casually get into your car parked in the neighbourhood market’s parking slot to go back home.

So here you are - all indicators on the panel are flashing, you are manually keeping the car stationary by pressing the brake pedal as parking brake is not engaging, and the car engine is running since it refuses to turn off !!

Thankfully the AC was still operating as being in this situation I realised i had started to sweat due to stress. In an attempt to turn the engine off , I tried several times engaging and disengaging P mode by moving the gear stick to R/N/D and back to P. While the car was moving forward/backward aligned to D/R, It was the same result for P i.e. the Parking brake wasn’t engaging without which the Start/Stop button was simply unresponsive.

It is unfortunate you have to go through this ordeal. Hope it is just a software glitch.

By any chance, could it be caused by rodent chewing wires ? Did you check under the hood ? Or may be a weak battery ?

[ColAjayDrives]

Originally Posted by DCTfanatic

Am I the only one that has felt this or is this a commonly known yet ignored quirk?

I have a peculiar observation from my first 10k km of my XUV700 D AT. The engine seems very vocal and refuses to upshift from 2nd--->3rd gear until it is pushed past the 2k rpm mark. But due to the tall gearing, 2k rpm in 2nd gear also comes at a speed fast enough for low speed city street cruising. Result: letting go off throttle before the 2k rpm mark keeps the engine revved up in 2nd gear and is pretty noisy.

More over, the speed achieved at 2k rpm in 2nd gear comes at just 1300rpm in 3rd gear. This makes it feel like the gear ratios are poorly set and the overlap between ratios is very inconsistent. Not even going to get started on the NVH difference of the engine at 2k rpm in 2nd and 1300 rpm in 3rd where most of low speed city driving takes place.

I have a 2022 D AX7L AWD, done 21k km so far.
I face the same issue. The Auto TC transmission upshifts very late from 2nd to 3rd gear and thus creates an embarrassingly (I really feel the embarrassment) hIgh NVH in the cabin, while in 2nd gear. It also reduces FE. I had brought out this issue earlier too, when I had completed 500km , wherein other bhpians had mentioned that Mahindra chooses better throttle response over FE and harshness, and thus the high NVH inside the cabin.
I don't really agree coz, I also owned XUV 500 and the Alturas earlier, and never came across such noise levels in the 2nd gear.

So much so, that my kid who just learnt driving 2 months ago, also observed the higher RPM in 2nd gear, compared to a manual Wagon R (where the driver is expected to upshift when the engine turns so noisy in 2nd gear).
Living with it.

[DCTfanatic]

Originally Posted by ColAjayDrives

The Auto TC transmission upshifts very late from 2nd to 3rd gear and thus creates an embarrassingly (I really feel the embarrassment) hIgh NVH in the cabin, while in 2nd gear.

You are not alone. I am someone who learned to drive on a 2012 Duster 85PS. An amazingly smooth, torque-y and relatively liner engine. It rewarded you for not revving it out. The torque meant that if skilled enough, a driver could upshift at 1300rpm and the car had no protests. The extra fuel efficiency was an added bonus.

Resultantly, I am someone who now has an OCD for upshifting as early as possible. I aim for 1.5k rpm in diesels and somewhere around 2k rpm in petrols. I am all for revving out engine for when you need bursts for acceleration. But why have the car running at 2300 rpm in 4th gear while cruising when you can achieve the same speed at 1500 rpm in 7th gear?

This is where the gearing of the XUV700 irks me. Makes me love the drivetrain of the Tucson and its 8-speed TC marvel even more even though i prefer the chasis and the driving dynamics of the XUV more.

[DCTfanatic]

Originally Posted by shady_lawyer

cross posting from my thread.

clearly the mhawk has not changed much at its core.

The issue isnt the engine. No such complaints with the manual cause you are in control of the gearshifts.

The culprit here is the gearing of the Aisin TC. 100kph in 6th gear comes at a very lazy 1500-1600 rpm for the D AT. This can only be achieved if the lower gears are made taller or the overlap of gears/size difference in gears is not linear. This can be seen in case of 2nd and 3rd Gear. 2200 rpm in 2nd gear and 1300rpm in 3rd gear are same speed.

Taller gears mean faster speeds at much lower rpm. Add-on the fact that upshift point in 2nd is 2200 rpm but you achieve 30 kph speed at just 2000 rpm makes low speed city driving a pain. In cases were I have to constantly cruise around 30 in flowing city traffic, the transmission wont go into 3rd. Will keep the engine pegged at 2000 rpm constantly. Not that high but the NVH is unnecessary for the low speed.

Why not let the engine upshift early to 3rd, Mahindra? Normally, the lowest upshift point in any AT is programmed at the lowest rpm where peak torque is generated so that post-upshift, the engine has enough torque in reserve to hold that bigger gear when the rpms fall. THE 2.2 mHAWK HAS 440 NM OF TORUQE. WHY ISNT THAT ENOUGH FOR AN UPSHIFT AT 1750 RPM THAT THE MANUAL CAN EASILY ACHIEVE???

Originally Posted by shady_lawyer

PS: naam DCT kaam TC? Naughty naughty

Lol. My daily driver was a Venue DCT when I made this account.

I had learnt to drive on an Innova 2.5D Manual, Duster 85PS Manual. Enthusiast in me was used to rowing gears and rev-matching from the get go. Got my auto experience from the Seltos 1.5D AT and Innova Crysta 2.8D AT. Hated the lack of control they offered compared to manuals.

The Verna then joined the stable and the IVT made me want to puke every time I depressed the throttle, the engine went to 4000 rpm and the car thought I would prefer a droning engine noise over an actual increase in speed.

Right after came the Venue. My first DCT experience. WAS HOOKED. The directness of a manual, almost-instantaneous shifts, quick engine, functional and useable paddles???!!! Could it be any better. 10k km of daily driving it and I got to the point where I always drive it in manual mode and manage all the gears myself. Have all the cross-gear rpm points for most speeds learnt by heart. Hence the name. I have raved on about the DCT enough on these.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ml#post5773871 (Has the DCT improved in 3 years? Comparing 2021 i20 N Line DCT with 2024 Seltos DCT)

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ml#post5774256 (Has the DCT improved in 3 years? Comparing 2021 i20 N Line DCT with 2024 Seltos DCT)

But as needs changed and cars rotated through the stable, I ended up splitting my time between out Seltos D AT, XUV700 D AT and the Tucson D AT. Good cars. The Tucson 8-speed TC is in a league of its own and has all the benefits of a DCT without the cons. But no paddles makes it a bit too easy and unenthusiastic for me. The DCT still has my heart. Hope to experience it again in a mark IV Octavia with the 2.0 TSI.

[Mr_Slowly]

Greetings Everyone!

This is my first post in this thread. I have been following this thread even when I was not a member of this prestigious forum.

My family owns a Mahindra XUV 7OO AX7L D AT in the shade of Everest White(I like to call her 'TheWhite'). We took the delivery of the car in October 2022. Our journeys in the car have been flawless till date and touchwood, they stay the same in the future ownership years of the vehicle as well. The car has covered nearly 16k KMs including 3 family trips (a single day to-&-fro trip to Pilani(RJ), A longer trip to Rajasthan and A trip to Haridwar-Rishikesh). Will be covering the performance of the car during the trips in some other post.

During the ownership period of the car, me and my dad have come across a new type of niggle in the car.

The Problem:
There is a sound which feels like something is hitting the plastic in the dashboard of the vehicle. This sound had started coming after the vehicle had crossed 10.5k KMs. The sound is heard on unlocking the vehicle after the car has been left locked for a while(sound is a bit audible when you are near the car and unlock it) OR at times on opening the door(any door) OR at times when the blower speed is changed(till now heard only when blower speed is changed manually; not every time but once in 20 to 30 times). This niggle definitely has a mind of its own and sometimes the sound does not come at all, sometimes only once and sometimes 2-3 times.


I am thinking of reporting this issue to the ASS at the next 20k KMs service. Or, should I get it checked on an urgent basis? I also wanted to ask if someone else is also facing such an issue?

Also, I am a bit worried that the service centre guys might open up the whole dashboard to inspect the issue and may not be able to fit it back to perfection like factory and we'll have to deal with a lot of rattles even in a new vehicle. Keeping this in mind, I have sort of made my mind to live with the sound rather than the service center guys opening up the whole thing.
Please let me know your views and suggestions on the same.

Attaching a video where the sound can be heard.
Note the sound of something plastic hitting at 00:28 seconds after I had switched on the blower. Here, the sound can only be heard once.

http://youtu.be/26vF75q2rfU

[texens]

Could somebody please share the owner's manual for XUV 700 - pdf file? A google search gave me this link - https://storagewyh.blob.core.windows...rs-Manual.html - which is taking an eternity to load all the images! So, a pdf file, if available would be very helpful.

[kamath93suraj]

Hi everyone,
I'm planning to buy a demo XUV 700 vehicle from the nearby mahindra showroom
Variant is XUV 700 ax7 l Petrol AT 2022 June manufactured.
It has run 20k kms and is almost new
The showroom has quoted a price of 21 lakhs on road and Iam going to be the first owner
Please suggest whether it is a good choice of other wise going with the top end variant which costs north of 32 lakhs
Also pls suggest what specific PDI to be done before buying it
Thank you

[utkarshgoel]

Originally Posted by Mr_Slowly

Greetings Everyone!

This is my first post in this thread. I have been following this thread even when I was not a member of this prestigious forum.

My family owns a Mahindra XUV 7OO AX7L D AT in the shade of Everest White(I like to call her 'TheWhite'). We took the delivery of the car in October 2022. Our journeys in the car have been flawless till date and touchwood, they stay the same in the future ownership years of the vehicle as well. The car has covered nearly 16k KMs including 3 family trips (a single day to-&-fro trip to Pilani(RJ), A longer trip to Rajasthan and A trip to Haridwar-Rishikesh). Will be covering the performance of the car during the trips in some other post.

During the ownership period of the car, me and my dad have come across a new type of niggle in the car.

The Problem:
There is a sound which feels like something is hitting the plastic in the dashboard of the vehicle. This sound had started coming after the vehicle had crossed 10.5k KMs. The sound is heard on unlocking the vehicle after the car has been left locked for a while(sound is a bit audible when you are near the car and unlock it) OR at times on opening the door(any door) OR at times when the blower speed is changed(till now heard only when blower speed is changed manually; not every time but once in 20 to 30 times). This niggle definitely has a mind of its own and sometimes the sound does not come at all, sometimes only once and sometimes 2-3 times.


I am thinking of reporting this issue to the ASS at the next 20k KMs service. Or, should I get it checked on an urgent basis? I also wanted to ask if someone else is also facing such an issue?

Also, I am a bit worried that the service centre guys might open up the whole dashboard to inspect the issue and may not be able to fit it back to perfection like factory and we'll have to deal with a lot of rattles even in a new vehicle. Keeping this in mind, I have sort of made my mind to live with the sound rather than the service center guys opening up the whole thing.
Please let me know your views and suggestions on the same.

Attaching a video where the sound can be heard.
Note the sound of something plastic hitting at 00:28 seconds after I had switched on the blower. Here, the sound can only be heard once.

http://Youtu.be/26vF75q2rfU

I am not very sure but it seems that the noise comes when the blower changes direction of air. I mean check whether it always comes when you change the direction of air flow (from face to knee level).

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by kamath93suraj

Hi everyone,
I'm planning to buy a demo XUV 700 vehicle from the nearby mahindra showroom
Variant is XUV 700 ax7 l Petrol AT 2022 June manufactured.
It has run 20k kms and is almost new
The showroom has quoted a price of 21 lakhs on road and Iam going to be the first owner
Please suggest whether it is a good choice of other wise going with the top end variant which costs north of 32 lakhs
Also pls suggest what specific PDI to be done before buying it
Thank you

I'd suggest you to check the following apart from regular PDI
1. Warranty status (when does it start and coverage duration), do you have option to get extended warranty (negotiate if you can get it complimentary).

2. Check whether vehicle has proper insurance and if you would be able to avail add on like zero depreciation, engine protect etc.when next renewal comes if it is not added by the dealer.

3. Check service history in detail. Was the car serviced regulary and as per schedule. Were there any accidental repairs ?


4. Get it checked by a trusted mechanic to check for any major accidental repairs (paint quality, under the hood condition, any sign of corrosion specially under body etc) as well as battery and tyre conditions.

I can't comment on the price but be thorough in checking each and every details. 20k km of demo car is not equivalent of 20k km run of a single owner car. Please keep this in mind. Car would have been abused and driven rashly all this while during test drives. So, it may need extra maintenance going forward.

[shrk_18]

Originally Posted by kamath93suraj

Hi everyone,
I'm planning to buy a demo XUV 700 vehicle from the nearby mahindra showroom
Variant is XUV 700 ax7 l Petrol AT 2022 June manufactured.
It has run 20k kms and is almost new
The showroom has quoted a price of 21 lakhs on road and Iam going to be the first owner
Please suggest whether it is a good choice of other wise going with the top end variant which costs north of 32 lakhs
Also pls suggest what specific PDI to be done before buying it
Thank you

I wouldn't go anywhere near this car. Its already 2 years old and 20k on a demo car is like 60k on a normal car. Given this, the price is insanely high. Better look for used cars from a single owner or book and wait for a new one

[RVR]

Originally Posted by texens

Could somebody please share the owner's manual for XUV 700 - pdf file? A google search gave me this link - https://storagewyh.blob.core.windows...rs-Manual.html - which is taking an eternity to load all the images! So, a pdf file, if available would be very helpful.

You can download it from Mahindra for You app. From the home screen, Also Explore --> Owner Manual--> Select your variant

Yes, the app takes a bit longer to load.

[atluri_rkc]

Originally Posted by kamath93suraj

Hi everyone,
I'm planning to buy a demo XUV 700 vehicle from the nearby mahindra showroom
Variant is XUV 700 ax7 l Petrol AT 2022 June manufactured.
It has run 20k kms and is almost new
The showroom has quoted a price of 21 lakhs on road and Iam going to be the first owner
Please suggest whether it is a good choice of other wise going with the top end variant which costs north of 32 lakhs
Also pls suggest what specific PDI to be done before buying it
Thank you

Whats your definition of "Almost New"? Is it because of 20K kms or has the car appeared dent free? If its the latter, its because the paint touchups must have happened.

Unless you know the service head personally OR the dealership is offering 3 years unlimited warranty, its better to walk away from demo cars as they are often the most abused.

[utkarshgoel]

How come the XUV 700 has only two reverse parking sensors? Is it enough? I mean, my ecosport has 4, and they seem to be essential to know about possible obstruction on sides.