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Old 19th October 2021, 11:33   #226
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The Kiger and Magnite have not been GNCAP tested. The Magnite holds 4 stars at the ASEAN NCAP, and the Indian variant is supposedly the same one.

Why don't you test drive the vehicles on your shortlist for a set number of kilometres on that particular stretch, on Hosur Road, and then make your determination on how you / your family feel(s)?
That is what I plan to do when I move to Hosur. Currently I am driving a 2011 Liva Petrol, so either car would be a nice upgrade anyway .
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Old 19th October 2021, 11:40   #227
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Punch looks the price and people would be willing to pay the premium, as is evident on how the market has warmed up to good feature loaded cars.

The problem starts when a potential buyer will drive the Punch and it's competitors. Safety of the car is a big plus for Tata and sure it should use that USP to it's max.

Surely, will anyone be willing to spend on the higher variants with this set of engines?

The lower variants will not face a problem and I see them getting good numbers from it. Higher variants look a very tough sell and may not find many takers.

Altroz and Nexon sell well because their prices are in line with all cars in their segment, but that is not the case with the Punch.

Hopefully Tata upgrades the engines in it's 2nd gen. Minus the engines, it's a very smart looking car.
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Old 19th October 2021, 11:56   #228
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I feel the top end pricing is off by 40-50K INR.

But the biggest factor which TML has gained is, trust in safety and building safer products. And of course looks. There is no car currently which looks as imposing as Punch in its category.

This is their trump card and they have played it well. If someone doesn't like top end version of Punch then they have Altroz and Nexon to choose from, which are equally safe and good looking cars too.

Which car maker boasts 5 cars (Tiago, Tigor, Punch, Altroz, Nexon) in their portfolio with minimum of 4 star GNCAP safety ratings in the range of 5.00 L - 14.0 L, None.

We enthusiast may say anything about the engine but the proof is Altroz, Tiago and Tigor (even small quantities though) are selling around 10000 cars monthly with the same engine (not counting Nexon Turbo here and Altroz iTurbo may contribute to 1-2K units).

The engine is not a slouch, I have driven Tigor manual with 3 people on board on the highway and city with AC on, the sweet spot is 3rd gear and the car has ample of torque to overtake and reach 80 KMPH quickly. And it was effortless to cruise between 90-100 KMPH in 5th gear. Yes, not as butter smooth as K12 of Swift. Also, the ride quality of Tigor was pretty stable, no bouncing around. Haven't driven punch but hope the same from it too.

Between engine smoothness and safety of life, people are now leaning towards the later and looking for safer cars.

TML wont mind adding 5K units/monthly of Punch to it sales figure (may be more of pure and adventure versions).

I feel this will be a successful product for TML.

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Can't look at an Ignis and say "SUV" regardless of the claims by MSIL.
Maruti is way ahead of us! You got problem with Ignis? see this, shame on you man (came across it in other Jimny thread)
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Old 19th October 2021, 12:46   #230
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TATA has confused/surprised the prospective buyers with its PUNCH pricing. It had to be suitably placed between the Tiago/Tigor and Nexon, however placing it alongside the Altoz (P) is somehow steering the buyers to Altroz if not happy with Punch. Tata has played with the pricing strategy, you increase/decrease your budget there is an option available from the house which is equally (at least 4 Star) safe and looks nice.
But given the price Tata should have provided a proper automatic much like the competition. Plus the top end misses out on features like (Rear AC, Driver armrest, sunglass holder etc) which the less pricier Altroz has.

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Old 19th October 2021, 14:18   #231
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Test Drove TATA Punch 1.2 Petrol creative AMT. Here are my observations after driving it for 20 km.

Positives
1. Superb view from the dashboard. Bonnet clearly visible.
2. GC is a boon in crater-filled roads.
3. Ride quality is far better than the competition.
4. 5 star rated safety
5. Seats are very comfortable.
6. DynaPro surely works, low end much better than Altroz.

Negatives
1. Subpar quality levels, was waiting for prices before penning the review, the price does not complement the quality of plastics that are around. ALtroz is far superior.
2. AMT though on slow speeds you will notice the very little shifting of gears. But once you floor it, it literally dies, it just doesn't know what to do. It starts holding the current gear for longer, leading to more noise than movement.
3. For highway quick overtakes need to be properly planned.
4. Front doors are heavy than the rear.
5. No underbody protection.
6. Altroz trumps the ride and handling department.

Conclusion

If you are not worried about GC and running is in the city with less traffic get ALTROZ period, it is the best in everything.

If you need GC and automatic and budget is around 10 lacks then consider Nexon XM.

If you need GC with automatic and tight budget test drive the competion back to back, then decide, my pic would be Kiger with 1.0 turbo CVT.

Punch is for those who are on a budget and whole heartedly support vocal for local campaign, doesn't worry about the after sales(I am tensed now seeing the Punch response as service center are very scarse compared to the vehicles TAMO is selling. Looking for FNG to service my NEXON)
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Old 19th October 2021, 14:23   #232
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Same thoughts as others, overpriced by a solid 1L for top variants in my opinion. Seems like Tata took own cannibalism mantra seriously.

This would have made sense if it would have come with Altroz/Nexon engines and people could choose the body style they wanted for similar money ( I’d get Altroz just for the way it looks) but at this price, that engine is absolutely terrible.

Looks like Tata landed the PUNCH alright on the customers. Should find some takers though due to being called “baby harrier”
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Maruti is way ahead of us! You got problem with Ignis? see this, shame on you man (came across it in other Jimny thread)
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Ignis comes under the Nexa range and, guess what?

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Ignis comes under the Nexa range and, guess what?
I know
They use some technical definition of 180mm GC and what not to classify it as such but they can say what they want, their words are in my ignore filters like most of us.
Probably makes someone feel good about it, its their product they can pitch it as they like we shall buy as we deem fit

But I like the Ignis as a good city car, its compact size, that GC, K12 and higher seating is a big positive.

Coming back to topic, the Punch is going to rule this segment for some time now. Even when the Casper launches or anyone for that matter they'll have a hard time with the 5 star rating. TML, with this pricing, are cashing in on the early mover advantage like Hyundai used to. Once the competition heats up they can launch intermediate VFM and performance models like they've done for the Altroz.

With such solid planning and execution I wonder how do they end up with the issues we have reported, especially the dealership related ones.

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Old 19th October 2021, 16:54   #235
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This is absurd pricing. We bought our Altroz XZ diesel (top variant at that time) last October for 8.79L ex showroom, right after Tata has slashed the diesel variants' prices by 40k. The initial impression that the petrol and diesel variants differ by 2L OTR is being reflected in the sales every month. The same way, this impression of Tata punch top variants aren't VFM might remain in the minds of people. To make things worse, these are introductory prices, set to be hiked next year.

Like most people say, Altroz feels like a great VFM offering now.
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Now I am kinda confused between Punch Creative MT and the Altroz XZ.

I had earlier zeroed out on Punch Creative, but the pricing!!!

In my city Altroz XZ is priced at 9.09L OTR, and I have been quoted 9.76L OTR for Punch Creative.

Differences between the two:
Present in Altroz but not in Punch
. Driver Armrest
. Rear AC Vents

Present in Punch but not in Altroz
. 7in TFT Instrument Cluster

Looks subjective

I had delayed my car purchase for Punch, now I'm confused.

May suggest.
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Here’s how Tata Punch lines up on the price graph



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Source : Autocar India

Tata really messed up the top variant pricing. Quick comparison against Kiger AMT,

Punch Adventure AMT 6.99L vs Kiger RXL AMT 7.04L
Punch Accomplished AMT 7.89L vs Kiger RXT AMT 7.52L
Punch Creative AMT 9.09L vs Kiger RXZ AMT 8.41L

There is ~70K difference between top end variants of Punch and Kiger; almost a lakh rupees if IRA pack is considered. Does Punch really offer anything over Kiger AMT that justifies 1 Lakh extra here?
Sure Punch has better power figures than Kiger but if someone is looking for better power, Magnite XV CVT variants are priced pretty close to Punch Creative.
I believe, Tata's aim is sell mid variants of Punch and push rest of customers to Nexon/Altroz low/mid variants.
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I own a Ignis Zeta AMT
Off topic but, Sir how is the safety and built quality of Ignis? Thinking of Alpha AMT for my parents since our SX4 is too big and is a tough to drive in city.. 95% City and will they will drive the SX4 on highways.
On road Ignis cost (Bangalore):8,94,000
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Now I am kinda confused between Punch Creative MT and the Altroz XZ.

I had earlier zeroed out on Punch Creative, but the pricing!!!

In my city Altroz XZ is priced at 9.09L OTR, and I have been quoted 9.76L OTR for Punch Creative.


Present in Punch but not in Altroz
. 7in TFT Instrument Cluster

Looks subjective

I had delayed my car purchase for Punch, now I'm confused.

May suggest.
Suggest you to get Altroz XZ+.

It is 45000 more expensive than XZ.

What you get over Altroz XZ-

1. TFT instrument cluster
2. Dual tone black roof
3. IRA
4. Leatherette seats
5. Express cool
6. Rear fog lamps
7. Driver window Auto Up & Down
8. Premium looking flat type wiper blades

All this at a price thats cheaper than Punch Creative, which loses out on IRA too.

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Off topic but, Sir how is the safety and built quality of Ignis? Thinking of Alpha AMT for my parents since our SX4 is too big and is a tough to drive in city.. 95% City and will they will drive the SX4 on highways.
On road Ignis cost (Bangalore):8,94,000
I find the ignis to be good city car. Built quality is above par when compared to Swift and Baleno. In ignis the Zeta AMT is the most VFM. You can add all other things except the height adjustable seat for less than the price difference. Please go through the variant list and pricing.
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