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Thanks for your suggestion, but I know the disadvantages of a low-quality alloy.
Plati and Lenso(made in Thailand) are both well-renowned brands.

I think Neo(mentioned by @kosfactor) and Plati brands are safer compared to other Chinese imitations. I will be going for either 17" or 18", the problem arises for those who go for 20"+ which is senseless for our country roads.

Btw do you know any other reputed brands? I will check those also.

Haha you make a very good point :D

Manufacturers generally have very good quality control when it comes to wheels. It may not be the best but the risks of it failing catastrophically are low. Even the luxury cars on unsuitably large wheels meant for foreign markets might end up with damaged rims and leaking air but they won’t end up failing suddenly and flipping your car / sliding it off a bridge

Replica wheels are generally not held to such high standards. They cut costs to offer name brand designs at an affordable price point.

Did anybody else got the dealership email for CPD? For me, it is almost one month in advance from the estimated delivery date range shown in Mahindra and Mahindra booking portal tracking page.

Sorry, but what is CPD? And no, no communication for me from the dealer. My delivery date range is September 26 - October 11.

I got an email from the dealer confirming CPD as 10/11/2022. Is that 11 Oct 2022 or 10 Nov 2022? I don't know what CPD stands for.

I also got an SMS from Mahindra with a link to check estimated delivery period, where it shows between 26 Sept and 11 Oct 2022.

Our fellow BHPian informed that date format is MM/DD/YYYY, and that Customer Promise Date (CPD) is the end date of the date range provided in my booking tracking page. And it matches with end date of expected delivery date range for me, i.e., 12/10/2022 (10th December, 2022).

Overhyped marketing by M&M, I would say. Indians are more conversant with DD/MM date format than MM/DD.

Sireesh Auto - Silk board - Bangalore was kind enough to lend one of their TD vehicle for half day to XUV owners group - TORC.

The test drive vehicle was a Z8- L - 4WD Diesel AT.

We were able to drive the vehicle on a straight tarmac section of around 1.5 KMs which is newly constructed and devoid of any traffic and also some really slushy sections. Apart from this, was able to drive through city traffic for around 15 KMs.

However, was not able to try highway manners and especially, high speed stability. I have driven previous generation Scorpio extensively and currently drives a XUV500. So my views are based on these points.

Likes -

• Extremely well insulated engine. Can hardly notice engine noise.
• AT was spot on during city driving and when quick power was required for overtaking.
• Composed drive over bad roads. No lateral movement
• Was able to take over sharp turns only in city (~40KMPH) speeds. Felt body roll was minimal. Will have to see how it behaves during sudden lane changes in highway.
• Interior is pleasant, mix of black and coffee brown looks good.
• Spacious engine bay. However, on flip side, guess lot of space is wasted here, meaning less cabin space.
• Liked the seats (and not just the seating position) compared to XUV7OO

Dislikes - [*] Cost - Its approximately 30L on road for the variant we tested. While comparatively, one can argue that cars which deliver much less also cost the same. It is an expensive vehicle.[*] The vehicle we drove had just few hundred kms on odo, however it was making a slight rumbling noise while driving over patchy road sections. Somewhat like what you will feel if your drive shaft is damaged. Not sure if it was issue with that specific vehicle.[*] Sony audio system sounded bit less impressive than while played in XUV7OO. Not sure if its due to the positioning of speakers and/ or cabin design.[*] Didn't fine much features to justify the close to 2Lakh price difference of L variant over regular Z8.[*] Boot space is an issue, made worse due to the design of seats + uneven loading bay.[*] Stock MRF wanderers are pathetic in slushy sections with no grip. We tried a section which was dug up by truck tyres in rain. Vehicle was unable to get any traction and was moving around even with 4W engaged.


For me, if I was in market for a new vehicle, my heart have gone for this for sure. Head, may have taken a lot to convince.

Of the many variants available, if money was not an issue, I would have preferred Z8-D-AT-AWD or the same in MT.

Thank you for sharing your view. By any chance, do you have the video of this wheelspin? I thought ScorpioN comes with MLD in 4WD versions specifically for this kind of scenario? Also, as a XUV500 owner, would you prefer a XUV500 AWD over ScorpioN 4WD? Asking the last question w.r.t. drivability, handling, ride comfort and ability to tackle bad roads.

There is a video captured by friend while seated in the car, but that doesnt give an idea of the same. Even my understanding is that ScorpioN comes with MLD, however this scenario is slightly different.

The wheels are not in air/ turning uncontrollably, since it was anyway in straight road + with minimal throttle input. The issue was, due to lack of grip, vehicle was having a mind of its own. Personally, I felt it was only due to tyres not up to the task.
To give a comparison, it was going in its own direction like how a bike will suddenly behave if you hit a patch of sand when riding on a highway.

Bad roads, ScorpioN will be the first preference. The vehicle glides over bad roads, even as a rear seat passenger, its very comfortable. There is no lateral movement in ScorpioN as one would notice in XUV5OO.
Also, with XUV5OO, the engine guard is bit too low for comfort to take over bad roads.

Only one thing I will be skeptical is high speed manners of ScorpioN. I was not able to try that during my test drive.

Is there any problem in the fasteners of the wheel rims for the Mahindra vehicles? Yesterday I saw an YouTube video where it was reported that some vaccum is formed and it is almost impossible or extremely tedious task to remove them? Is this correct? If yes, what is the remedy?

From the official review on the first page, this image caught my attention. The instruction says only BS6 diesel should be filled. Do we have BS6 diesel available throughout the country? What about remote locations like Ladakh or North East?

Dear brother,

Very good observation, might save many from going for outright purchase.

I would like to add that even high octane petrol (91 & above) is not available in the heart of Siliguri city on Hill Cart Road, whether be it of IndianOil Or HP outlet. Siliguri is a major junction before going off civilisation.
Further North towards Darjeeling and Sikkim also I could not find high octane petrol.
Neither in Nepal.

I was inclined towards the Scorpio-N Z4 in AWD version but this pic has frightened me apart from the already DEF/AdBlu issues BS6 diesel powered engine owners are facing in India.

Regards.

As far as I know, all bunks in India are now supplying BS6 diesel. This project was completed by major PSU OMCs in early 2020 itself. Don't be worried about the fuel marked as BS6 only.

I could see some actions in the dispatch yards. Looks like the dispatches from the factory had started already.

Looking at the monthly factory dispatches of Scorpio (August 2022- 7056 nos), i am guessing that the ScorpioN dispatches are included in this number.

Any views?

Its not vacuum as mentioned in the channel :)

Certain designs do have issue, for example XUV500 nuts tends to get stuck easily. Thats since dust and rust tends to get accumulated and makes it tight. Due to the specific alloy design it becomes tricky to get the wrench correctly to get the nut off.
We usually overcome it by making sure you loosen and tighten the nut if not removed for long time. Usually the 10K kms rotation takes care of that, however like during pandemic, when running is low, one has to take care so that rust doesn't cause issues.

Its not a huge issue as per me.

Last month during Leh trip, was having a chat with M&M Leh centers tech head. He was saying the majority of BS6 related issues that you see online are due to two factors - bad quality diesel and people not knowing how to do manual regeneration.

On diesel part, his view was that apart from one bunk which is comparatively okay, all in and around Leh are notorious for bad fuel. There was one BS6 vehicle in our group and he specifically asked it to avoid using fuel from other bunks. This guy luckily had bigger jerry cans, hence managed the circuit with fuel from Leh.