[parattai]

Originally Posted by OpenRoads

Not sure I understand you fully. Charging of the battery is totally dependent on the driving condition which includes all parameter like if you are cruising at a certain speed or doing fast overtakes which would need quick acceleration. Even when you are parked with the AC switched on the engine would eventually switch on to keep the battery at 2 levels minimum.
My best guess is when you drive for longer with minimal acceleration it eventually charges the battery to the fullest. I have planned for a ~1K KM road trip next week and test all my theories. Will keep you guys posted

All the best for your long trip. I bet you can do it in one tank full of petrol.

Turning on the defogger keeps the engine ON (resulting in battery charging) is mentioned in the user manual. I have experienced both that and full charge because of high A/C temperature (I set AC to 30C, because it was too cold inside) recently because of the rains in this season in Bangalore. You can also try these and confirm. Outside these, I have not seen the battery charge cross 2 bars inside Bangalore. On highways, the battery gets full often.

[Satishtv]

Does this drive like a Toyota or a Maruti? I am very interested to know, Thank you

[curiousElf]

Originally Posted by curiousElf

1. The voice activation activates itself without any input. Once in a while is understandable but happens at least twice in my office commute. It is super annoying
2. People can hardly hear my voice when speaking on carplay. I have to be shouting at the top of my voice to be heard.
3. Carplay disconnects at the exact location every day. For folks from BLR - this is while I am crawling upwards in traffic at the Marathahalli flyover on the east
   bound carriageway towards HAL. This does not happen anywhere else. Not even on the same flyover when I am on the other side - usually there is no traffic and I mostly zoom through when driving west bound. I understand there might be some kind of interference but the problems is that once it disconnects - it simply refuses to pair with the phone again. I even tried turning off the car while waiting for the traffic to move ahead and tried pairing it but to no avail. It only connects after a complete shut off and some time has passed.
4. Someone has mentioned this on a previous post - google maps has a weird offset from your actual location (this doesn't happen everywhere). I have seen it happening in the Varthur road between Jagriti theater and the Kundalahalli underpass. Happened multiple times and not a one off incident. The irritating part is that google maps is constantly trying to re-route. My understanding was that CarPlay works on screen projection and it should be using my phone's location but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Experimented with keeping my phone connected with a cable. The google maps offset issue has disappeared when using it. I read on some online forum that the Carplay specification uses the vehicle's GPS when used with wireless. However, it does not need it if you use the wired connection.

The connected cable also helped with the disconnection issue. I was at the exact location where wireless Carplay would get disconnected and this time it stopped playing and started playing again. It was not smooth for 3-4 minutes with the audio cutting in and out. However, it did not get disconnected. The screen froze though and I had to press the power button on the infotainment to get it responsive again. At least I have my podcasts running during the terrible commute now. Does seem to be an issue with wireless Carplay when there is interference.

[volkman10]

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[Prakash Rao]

• Had booked in early Oct. Checked again with Nandi Toyota. Despite major flaws in supply chain, deliveries are normal including special allocations
  
• The manager (a relative) was not a happy man. Most confidentially, mentioned about too many disappointed customers ever since this Hyryder was launched. His servicing team too complaining.
  
• From a most-delicate mosquito net as a sun-roof to a camel's hump in the rear seat to a weak almost inaudible horn to faulty navigation-cheapo antenna and rear seat-belt's recall to lack of aftermarket accessories to wafer-thin doors to faulty voice recognition to wildly fluctuating mileage etc, the Toyota-badged Maruti Suzuki product has been a major headache for all dealerships!
  
• What's more, it is now confirmed that prices will most significantly go up by over a Lakh for the hybrid, in the New Year (the 48th Meeting of GST Council shockingly ignored repeated requests from all manufacturers for a significant cut on tax on hybrid vehicles) while the cash cow called Fortuner will have the steepest hike. Well, I am told fat pockets will continue to happily pay any price for that truck.
  
• Moving on, we can expect a further hike in prices thanks to the Union Budget 2023.

[psbali]

Originally Posted by Prakash Rao

• Had booked in early Oct. Checked again with Nandi Toyota. Despite major flaws in supply chain, deliveries are normal including special allocations
• The manager (a relative) was not a happy man. Most confidentially, mentioned about too many disappointed customers ever since this Hyryder was launched. His servicing team too complaining.
• From a most-delicate mosquito net as a sun-roof to a camel's hump in the rear seat to a weak almost inaudible horn to faulty navigation-cheapo antenna and rear seat-belt's recall to lack of aftermarket accessories to wafer-thin doors to faulty voice recognition to wildly fluctuating mileage etc, the Toyota-badged Maruti Suzuki product has been a major headache for all dealerships!

I test drove the hyryder strong hybrid variant recently and i didnt like even one thing about this car. Even for 20 lacs+ there is no premium feel and IMHO it is selling only due ultra low running costs. After test driving the G variant my nexon ev xm felt far more plush and premium as compared to this.

The cabin is claustrophobic and the car feels busy overall. I thought that the engine noise would be bad but it turned out to be decent and bearable. The rear camera quality is enough to scare away a lot of prospective customers that tend to nitpick.

Overall I did not like this car at all. But low petrol costs and toyota engineering alone is enough for this car to succeed.

I get a weekly reminder from a nexa sales person about availability of some variants so I dont know how the claims about waiting periods are true for this car. Imho a steep price hike of 1 lac will kill this car for sure.

[kdp95]

Had booked the V strong hybrid variant on 10th October 2022 and got a call that the car is dispatched. Waiting to see the car for PDI.

[BoneCollector]

Originally Posted by kdp95

Had booked the V strong hybrid variant on 10th October 2022 and got a call that the car is dispatched. Waiting to see the car for PDI.

That's great. Same variant of ours was booked around 10th July in Gurgaon and as of today, the promised date is around March-April. Booking will be cancelled as the Grand Vitara Alpha+ came home 2 weeks back although it was booked in end of July. No idea how the allotment process is going on.

[OpenRoads]

Originally Posted by parattai

All the best for your long trip. I bet you can do it in one tank full of petrol.

Turning on the defogger keeps the engine ON (resulting in battery charging) is mentioned in the user manual. I have experienced both that and full charge because of high A/C temperature (I set AC to 30C, because it was too cold inside) recently because of the rains in this season in Bangalore. You can also try these and confirm. Outside these, I have not seen the battery charge cross 2 bars inside Bangalore. On highways, the battery gets full often.

Thanks mate. With 40ltrs 1k Km might be a stretch. But ~850km is doable. In city as per my estimate I am getting close to 20kmpl.

[IonHawk]

Originally Posted by Prakash Rao

• What's more, it is now confirmed that prices will most significantly go up by over a Lakh for the hybrid, in the New Year (the 48th Meeting of GST Council shockingly ignored repeated requests from all manufacturers for a significant cut on tax on hybrid vehicles) while the cash cow called Fortuner will have the steepest hike. Well, I am told fat pockets will continue to happily pay any price for that truck.

Spoke to the guy at Nandi Whitefield today and he was saying it won't be as high as a lakh, will be maybe 20-30k. A lakh more would probably be a no-go for this car, it has got me thinking again for sure. Will have to see how it pans out.

[rajshenoy]

My corolla service was due and I thought of using their EM60 service so that I can finally go checkout Hyryder(strong hybrid)

While I had my share of apprehensions, I came back surprised. let me revisit some of them

1. Power : Power feels adequate for urban usage thanks to the EV assist and is comparable in this segment. On highways too, should be ok for 100-120kmph usage

2. Build: Felt better then the usual Maruti Heartect cars, Rear Hatch felt heavy and doors felt tight than heavy

3. Ride quality : Short spin was not enough to comment on the handling but ride felt cushiony and the car could soak most of urban scenarios

4. Fuel economy: MID was showing 16.4 on an abused car and my 20 odd kms too were in similar ball park, so 28kmpl might be a tall claim but 16-18kmpl seems achievable for Bangalore traffic

5. Boot space : It is not as bad. I travel light and this should be sufficient for 2 Adults+2 kids and weekend luggage.

Other good bits
Sunroof has this neat trick that moves the rear pane and liberates awesome space. I like this much better then the panoramic sun roof that mostly serve like moon roof


Not so good bits
Drive modes felt gimmicky as I did not feel any noticeable difference in ECO, Normal or Power mode

EV button was pretty useless(battery was showing full towards end of my drive, but EV didnt work. Apparently the EV mode works once you come to stand still and on handbrake and then move)

Engine note feels very fake due to this EV assist and somehow could not enjoy it. It is not loud and well insulated but artificial

Rear seat is not spacious for 3 adults(also that tunnel in middle) and all black theme does not look airy(sunroof and that mosquito net roof line perhaps helps brighten up) - I have the same problem with Seltos/Creta as well, So again nothing deal breaker for that segment.

Overall, I am happy with this car. Seems like a good choice for a small family which has a need for a single car for both urban and highway runs.

[sukrit7]

Quick thoughts from a Delhi - Shimla - Delhi run. The car was loaded with four adults, an equal number of suitcases and backpacks and a few additional knick-knacks.

Kms covered - 956
Overall average - 24.8kmpl.

On the highway, the car performed rather reasonably. It was very comfortable for all of us, and the car held speeds quite easily. Didn't find overtaking to be much of a problem, although, on hard acceleration, it gets quite loud. Was able to touch a 115-120 with no trouble at all. I thoroughly enjoyed using the cruise control.

On inclines, the engine becomes rather seriously hoarse as you gather speed. It sounds like a diesel and I wish there was a way to manually upshift at times. Having said so, this car can sure as hell climb. We have a home up in Chota Shimla, very close to Jakhu. It's a steep climb with very narrow roads. Where the EcoSport would seriously struggle, the Hyrder was absolutely cool. The combination of the torque available to you from the battery and hill hold made the experience absolutely fuss-free. I discovered absolutely by chance, that the hill-hold feature works when you're reversing as well.

[Palio_2005]

Hi guys. Received a call from my dealer that dispatches for Hyryder havent yet started and I suspect that the imminent price hike is the reason why Toyota has delayed dispatches. Luckily for me a Blue dual tone in V variant became available as the owner deferred the purchase so I agreed to upgrade from G to V as I was able to get the higher grade car at same price as I would have paid for the G variant. Over the years I feel that the car prices have risen astronomically; cars costing about 16 to 17 lakhs on road are now quoting 20 L plus. Value of depreciation of the rupee and high inflationary costs. The crazy “SUV” gst and state taxes dont make things easier as well. We end up paying almost 53 pct as taxes, not counting the 30 % which we already pay as IT.

[aadiaksh]

Does anyone feel the lumbar support is lacking or absent in the front seats of the car? I've been driving and seating in the co passenger front seats and I have not found a comfortable position at all in the last 7 days. Back has started to pain a bit.

Looking at lumber support pillows now. So much for a new car!!

[Shreyans_Jain]

Originally Posted by aadiaksh

Does anyone feel the lumbar support is lacking or absent in the front seats of the car? I've been driving and seating in the co passenger front seats and I have not found a comfortable position at all in the last 7 days. Back has started to pain a bit.

I had found the front seats to be rather unsatisfactory during my test drive, lacking both width and lumbar support and feeling a size too small overall.

This can easily be fixed in the lower variants though, with custom made seat covers with extra padding for the lower back. Unfortunately, such a solution will not work for the variants with 6 airbags or with ventilated seats. For them, the only option it to find a good upholsterer who can take the existing covers off and add extra foam underneath.