[PRIMA]

Can anyone please help me on how one can get to see the TRIP STATISTICS/SUMMARY to see the synopsis of the basicTrip data (distance, avg speed, trip duration, mileage) on the Hyryder. As per my limited experience with my new ride , the display does not show such details (on my Hybrid V variant). Toyota iConnect also does not appear to have this (though the Maruti app for the GV does have a "Trip Statistics" section. I have really been missing the Trip Summary feature ever since i have been using the Hyryder, and as wondering how other folks might be managing (or if I missed noting this feature altogether somewhere....a limited Trip summary does flash for a fewnseconds on the MID when one turns off the ignition, however i do not know how to go back and access the same or see recent trip history with for the summary on time/distance/speed /mileage conveniently on a single screen). Thanks in advance if someone can help.

[Auto_guy_101]

Originally Posted by KurianMathoor

Introduction:-

These were my pain points during the test drives. A peculiarity I noticed was that the hybrid tech is good for a short power burst for an overtake, but the CVT really struggles on strong acceleration (the feel and power of a downshift + the higher rpms is really missed). It's strange the motors don't compensate for the CVTs rubberband effect.

I have a doubt on the hilly terrain (as I couldn't check it during my TD). Is it just loud engine noise or does the car feel underpowered as well? I'm really curious because the battery would deplete very fast and there wouldn't be any regen on hills. The generator would also receive less power as the Atkinson cycle engine pulls all the weight.

Congratulations on covering these many miles, making the hybrid tech a great option for you. Your upgrades on the value for money S variant also make it a sweet deal!

Wishing you many more happy miles!

[PRIMA]

Originally Posted by PRIMA

Can anyone please help me on how one can get to see the TRIP STATISTICS/SUMMARY to see the synopsis of the basicTrip data (distance, avg speed, trip duration, mileage) on the Hyryder.

Here is what the Trip Statistics screen look like for the Grand Vitara on the Maruti Connect app (pls see attached image).

Where can I find such similar details.on my Hyryder (like 8n all other cars I have used in the recent years). Seeking inputs from anyone here who can help. Thanks.

[sgmuser]

This is some detailed review. Great.

I know this is a click bait when it says 27 kmpl but this is simply possible to get if one wants to do hypermiling. Keeping 50-70 kmph is something impractical; in city to do always above 50 kmph (like Bengaluru or Chennai) and as well as in highways below 70kmph . Would be nice to see the real 'real world' FE in tank full method in a proper city - crawling and highway - 90-140 kmph use.

[AdhikR]

Originally Posted by sgmuser

Would be nice to see the real 'real world' FE in tank full method in a proper city - crawling and highway - 90-140 kmph use.

I primarily use my Hyryder Hybrid in the city, and I'd say the mileage varies a lot even on Eco mode.

For short trips, say 1 to 3 kilometres, mileage is about 11 to 13 kmpl, not much higher than non-hybrids.

Longer city runs within Chennai I get 15 kmpl to 20 kmpl, depending on traffic.

On slightly longer runs to the airpot etc when the traffic is low, I've seen 25 plus.

[shikh_oberoi]

My usage is 60% highway (70kmph) and 40% city (20-30kmph)
I got 23.7 kmpl on the first tankful from my Hybrid model.

[KurianMathoor]

Yes, you are right. The engine struggles under full load and the battery depletes in fast pace. But once you are on the downhill then put the gear into 'B' mode and the vehicle can be driven single pedal to an extent (without the use of brake).

[Ajay_the_Don]

Originally Posted by Auto_guy_101

the hybrid tech is good for a short power burst for an overtake, but the CVT really struggles on strong acceleration (the feel and power of a downshift + the higher rpms is really missed). It's strange the motors don't compensate for the CVTs rubberband effect.

I own a hybrid and do agree to your point. Hybrid cars in general hates hard acceleration, the generators in the e-CVT have to spin up really fast to reach direct drive rpm, by which the engine will directly engage in driving the car. So when you floor the acc. it takes time to get up to the D.D speed. On normal acceleration (keeping the power band in the eco-green zone) there is no typical CVT rubber band effect.

Originally Posted by Auto_guy_101

I have a doubt on the hilly terrain (as I couldn't check it during my TD). Is it just loud engine noise or does the car feel underpowered as well? I'm really curious because the battery would deplete very fast and there wouldn't be any regen on hills. The generator would also receive less power as the Atkinson cycle engine pulls all the weight.

I recently went to Munnar(with 4 people and a bunch of luggage) and had the same reservation but the car exceeded well. It is much better than Diesels while climbing up the hills with the electric torque from the motors. The battery didn't drain because you do brake at every corner and hairpins bends and the battery remained in 2-points of charge.

I'm happy with my purchase after this trip as this seems to be a no nonsense city car that can also handle the occasional trips!

[aks812]

Originally Posted by sgmuser

This is some detailed review. Great.

I know this is a click bait when it says 27 kmpl but this is simply possible to get if one wants to do hypermiling. Keeping 50-70 kmph is something impractical; in city to do always above 50 kmph (like Bengaluru or Chennai) and as well as in highways below 70kmph . Would be nice to see the real 'real world' FE in tank full method in a proper city - crawling and highway - 90-140 kmph use.

I dont think many would be doing 140kmph on Indian highways as its dangerous but each to its own.

I have done Mumbai-Lonavala return ride in hyryder hybrid and I got 24.6kmpl tank-tank, while MID showed 25.3kmpl, not much difference. speed on expressway being under 100 as lot of cameras. This 24.6kmpl includes ride up till tiger point and didn't feel any power issue any where (i am coming from Ecosport dragon petrol engine). The return from top was only on battery as the regen handled most of the thing.

Another trip was Mumbai-Shirdi-Shani Shignapur return and got 26.2kmpl tank-tank. Speed was between 90-105kmph depending on the available stretch and also using cruise control at 98kmph.

What i have found is if the driver knows how to drive a hybrid car, they can easily pull good efficiency while not cutting out on speed.

[sgmuser]

Originally Posted by aks812

I dont think many would be doing 140kmph on Indian highways as its dangerous but each to its own..

Yes, I wasnt clear. When I mentioned 140kmph I actually should have said 120kmph which is the speed limit. But it was too late when I try to edit it. Also what I implied was that the speed goes up and down and not just below 90 kmph consciously. Like they do in hypermiling to match a real life average user not thinking much about the FE all the time.

[Cruzn]

So I went on my first “long” trip since I got my Hyrdyer in Feb. While overall, there weren’t any issues, it didn’t start off too well.

1. As soon as I hit the open road, I switched to Power mode, just to get the hang of it. When I came to a stop at the toll, a few metres ahead, another driver told me that my exhaust was leaking. I pulled over and noticed that there were a few droplets and figured that maybe I should stick to Eco mode. Just when I continued my trip, I saw a Hyryder rip past me and noticed their exhaust leaking like crazy! Is this something I need to worry about? Should I get this checked?
2. The other thing I noticed was when I hit speeds of 80 and above, the steering got incredibly stiff. I never noticed this with my other rides but is this normal?

Has anyone else encountered any of these issues? Are these even considered “issues”?

[aks812]

Originally Posted by Cruzn

So I went on my first “long” trip since I got my Hyrdyer in Feb. While overall, there weren’t any issues, it didn’t start off too well.
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Has anyone else encountered any of these issues? Are these even considered “issues”?

These are not issues.
1. The water dripping is of AC, its very normal.
2. Steering getting hard at higher speed is good, it helps in stability, so that is a positive.

[sandeepmohan]

Originally Posted by Cruzn

Are these even considered “issues”?

No.

That is condensation from your exhaust. As the engine cuts in and out, its possible that all the built up condensation isn't making its way out due to intermittent engine operation. No action required from your side. Drive normally and it will eventually evaporate. This happens on non-hybrid cars too.

Steering weighing up is fine.

[aks812]

So i finally had a long trip in my Hyryder Hybrid G last week, the route was Mumbai - Bhopal - Pench and return. The trip was approximately 2600km in 8 days and in this also completed 5000km. Few observations from the trip below -

1. The roads were mostly good, specially the highways in MP were amazing. Drove mostly in normal mode, tried eco mode in between but it would reduce the AC performance so kept mostly in normal mode and power mode in between on ghats and overtakes. Didn't feel any issue on performance.

2. Compared to my Seltos IVT, there is hardly any lag in acceleration but yes the engine is more noisy when pushed in normal or eco mode.

3. The sunroof is a big issue with the mosquito net throwing lot of heat inside, i tried putting the side sun shades on the roof while going from Mumbai to Bhopal and kept the AC at auto for 24, as i usualy do, but the blower was always on full blast. The sun shade protection didn't help much as lot of area remained open to heat, picture attached. On reaching Bhopal i placed a thermocol sheet above the sunroof cover so now i had sun shade cover and thermocol cover to protect from the heat.

3. Sound quality is decent if you play around with audio settings and at par with Seltos.

4. The ride quality is the best i have experienced, coming from Ecosport and Seltos. It is not stiff like Ecosport and Seltos, takes all the rumble strips and the small continuous speed breakers in its stride without any noise and rattling inside the cabin. The steering weighs up perfectly over high speed, when compared to Seltos which remains light even post 110kmph.

5. The stock Apollo Apterra Cross tyres feel decent, better than Goodyears which came on Seltos and Ecosport. They do have some road noise, not as silent as Michelin. But had an incident where to save a dog i had to brake hard at speed of 80-90 and the stopping distance was disappointing. I have external tmps installed which helped with tyre pressure and temperature, i feel its must have for all cars.

6. Storage was not a problem with medium sized bags and little adjustment in the boot.

7. LED headlight throw feels more than adequate to me, compared to Seltos LED headlights.

8. We were 2-3 people and about 4-5 medium sized bags on the trip. Got the below mentioned mileage, tank to tank method, though mileage displayed on MID was very close to actual.
a. Mumbai to Bhopal - 24.89kmpl.
This was with sun shade only on top, AC set on 24 and blower going full blast. Speed was between 80-90, occasionally going 110+.
b. Bhopal to Pench - 25.1 kmpl
This time i had a thermocol sheet placed in top and there was no heat coming inside from sunroof. Speed was between 80-90, didn't cross 100 here.
c. Pench to Bhopal - 23.6kmpl
Thanks to the good roads from Pench - Lakhnadon - Narsinghpur, drove only in power mode to have fun.
d. Bhopal to Mumbai - 26.2kmpl
Tried keeping the car in EV mode as much as possible by modulating the accelerator.

I have always filled XP95 from the start, not sure if that is helping in getting more mileage.

Only negative i found was the cheap sunroof cover, need to install a good CR20 roof tint over the weekend.

MOD - the post seems to have become big, feel free to move it separate.