[Wizaro]

Originally Posted by drsachin

rto tax

Mate do you have any update on up rto tax being refunded back for your hyryder purchase?

I am to get delivery of camry this month and RTO are still not updated with 0 tax on hybrid. And dealer also claims no info on such govt schemes.

[drsachin]

Originally Posted by Wizaro

Mate do you have any update on up rto tax being refunded back for your hyryder purchase?

I am to get delivery of camry this month and RTO are still not updated with 0 tax on hybrid. And dealer also claims no info on such govt schemes.

No sir...All the information I have is from the news, and official document od schemes cleared by UP government.
I am right now at Toyota workshop noida, getting my first service. And dealer here has no information about such UP government scheme. Even neighbouring MG showroom selling pure EV has no information too.
May be we will have to wait....

I can see your location as Delhi. The scheme is offered by UP government so will apply to UP registered cars only

[Wizaro]

Originally Posted by drsachin

I can see your location as Delhi. The scheme is offered by UP government, so it will apply to UP-registered cars only

My work place is in UP as well. So if it's confirmed, I can register it at UP instead.

I hate how these schemes are never implementated properly, and citizens always have to suffer.

If the circular had been for a hike in road tax, im sure the same would have been implemented from day 0 of the announcement.

[vvrchandra]

Are the Hyryder / Grand Vitara Strong hybrid variants only E10 (10% Ethanol) complaint or are they E20 (20% Ethanol) ready too. Thanks.

[BoneCollector]

Originally Posted by vvrchandra

Are the Hyryder / Grand Vitara Strong hybrid variants only E10 (10% Ethanol) complaint or are they E20 (20% Ethanol) ready too. Thanks.

They've thrown the ball in owner's court.

A minimum of 91 octane petrol is recommended. The car can be plied with 20% Ethanol blend but if the owner is not satisfied with it, you need to shift to 10% blend.

[drsachin]

Originally Posted by Wizaro

So if it's confirmed, I can register it at UP instead.

So let me share chronology of news.

UP cabinet cleared this scheme in oct 2022.
As per scheme there is zero roadtax and registration for EVs in UP.
There is additional subsidy of 1lakh for first 25000 buyers after the scheme is passed by the cabinet.
It specifies that this policy applies to all categories of EVs that includes BEV(Battery electric vehicles), HEV (Hybrid electric vehicles), FCEV( Fuel cell electric vehicles).

Next on 10/1/23. There was a news report that UP government after clearance of policy has still not put up official notification as the officials were busy with investors summit but its going to put up the notice soon and issue refunds to all the beneficiaries who purchased EV cars after oct 2022. Refunds to be issued Direct to bank accounts. Buyers need not apply for refunds.

Around a week back there is again news report that. UP government EV policy 2022 is finally official and RTOs are intimated about this new Road Tax exemptions on EVs and refunds would be issued soon. It again cleared doubts about the definition of EVs. EVs include all vehicles with electric motor and battery for propulsion that includes BEV, HEV and FCEV.

But as i checked today, dealers are still not aware of any such exemptions.

[vvrchandra]

Originally Posted by BoneCollector

They've thrown the ball in owner's court.

A minimum of 91 octane petrol is recommended. The car can be plied with 20% Ethanol blend but if the owner is not satisfied with it, you need to shift to 10% blend.

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Is there any change in the manual. Attaching an image from the manual which I've downloaded when I got my Grand Vitara Strong hybrid Alpha+ October end last year. It doesn't talk anything about 20% Ethanol. Online version of manual now shows E20 note same as above

Have the manufacturers just changed the manual and added E20 recently or any change has been done to the hybrid engine specifications too.

[Aniket03]

Originally Posted by drsachin

So let me share chronology of news.

UP cabinet cleared this scheme in oct 2022.
Next on 10/1/23. There was a news report that UP government after clearance of policy has still not put up official notification
Around a week back there is again news report that.
But as i checked today, dealers are still not aware of any such exemptions.

Having registered my Hyryder S Hybrid in November 2022 in Ghaziabad,U.P, I can attest to the fact that no dealer is aware of any implementation of said scheme.

In fact, I was earlier looking to register this car on a Gurgaon address in order to avail similar subsidy offered by Haryana Government. Upon entering the car's VIN in Gurgaon branch of dealership's RTO portal, a measly subsidy of 20-25,000 was on offer. Similar to U.P, Haryana government had announced a similar scheme but has not been implemented yet. So I would not be too hopeful regarding the same.

[BoneCollector]

Originally Posted by vvrchandra

Have the manufacturers just changed the manual and added E20 recently or any change has been done to the hybrid engine specifications too.

Looking at the image shared by you, it looks very much possible that they added the 20% Ethanol blend stuff later on. I've shared image from the manual of Grand Vitara Strong Hybrid downloaded in December.

[Wizaro]

Originally Posted by drsachin

So let me share chronology of news.

UP cabinet cleared this scheme in oct 2022.
As per scheme there is zero roadtax and registration for EVs in UP.
There is additional subsidy of 1lakh for first 25000 buyers after the scheme is passed by the cabinet.
It specifies that this policy applies to all categories of EVs that includes BEV(Battery electric vehicles), HEV (Hybrid electric vehicles), FCEV( Fuel cell electric vehicles).

Next on 10/1/23. There was a news report that UP government after clearance of policy has still not put up official notification as the officials were busy with investors summit but its going to put up the notice soon and issue refunds to all the beneficiaries who purchased EV cars after oct 2022. Refunds to be issued Direct to bank accounts. Buyers need not apply for refunds.

Around a week back there is again news report that. UP government EV policy 2022 is finally official and RTOs are intimated about this new Road Tax exemptions on EVs and refunds would be issued soon. It again cleared doubts about the definition of EVs. EVs include all vehicles with electric motor and battery for propulsion that includes BEV, HEV and FCEV.

But as i checked today, dealers are still not aware of any such exemptions.

I got in touch with ARTO today of Noida on phone. He claims they have updated the system for zero tax on EV vehicles from 10th march 2023, but 10% tax is still applicable on Hybrid Cars as they are not EV. When i argued with him that Hybrid cars will also be considered as EV which is mentioned in the circular, then he told me that he will check and confirm in next couple of days.

[Cloudfire]

Test drove the hyryder hybrid and neo-hybrid last wednesday,the hybrid was more responsive than the neo-hybrid.But the hybrid was more vocal than the neo-hybrid.Steering response was better in the hybrid.The S-variant is value for money than the Grand Vitra counterpart.

[kush812]

Originally Posted by Wizaro

I got in touch with ARTO today of Noida on phone. He claims they have updated the system for zero tax on EV vehicles from 10th march 2023, but 10% tax is still applicable on Hybrid Cars as they are not EV. When i argued with him that Hybrid cars will also be considered as EV which is mentioned in the circular, then he told me that he will check and confirm in next couple of days.

I have downloaded the U.P. Government Order regarding the implementation of EV Policy 2022 and it clearly states that Strong Hybrid, Plug in Hybrids and FCEVs will be considered as EVs and are covered under the policy.

[Wizaro]

Originally Posted by kush812

I have downloaded the U.P. Government Order regarding the implementation of EV Policy 2022 and it clearly states that Strong Hybrid, Plug in Hybrids and FCEVs will be considered as EVs and are covered under the policy.

Thats why i argued. Ill be approaching the RTO personally on monday with the circular. Maybe we all need to form a group in ncr and approach rto all together.

My car delivery is prepared for sunday next week. I Need to sort this out before the delivery.

[kush812]

Originally Posted by Wizaro

Thats why i argued. Ill be approaching the RTO personally on monday with the circular. Maybe we all need to form a group in ncr and approach rto all together.

My car delivery is prepared for sunday next week. I Need to sort this out before the delivery.

The policy is applicable from 14.10.2022 so you need not worry about the tax not getting refunded. Only thing is that you will have to keep a tab on the refund and personally talk to the RTO officer. I myself will be going to Ghaziabad RTO next week to get my refund.

[drsachin]

Originally Posted by kush812

The policy is applicable from 14.10.2022 so you need not worry about the tax not getting refunded. Only thing is that you will have to keep a tab on the refund and personally talk to the RTO officer. I myself will be going to Ghaziabad RTO next week to get my refund.

I too will go to Ghaziabad RTO for tax refund..... Actually there is 1lakh subsidy too for first 25000 buyers since oct 2022